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This post weird because:

1/ Nobody said the card was bad because it's not even released yet so who are you arguing against?

2/ Secondly using Bandersmosh as an example is pretty pointless. I've gotten a lot of legendaries from him that are good for the situation I was in, but it doesn't mean those legendaries are good cards to main deck.

 There are some naysayers in the reveal thread for Erkh.

 I wouldn't try to build a resurrect priest if you don't own all of these cards. If you still want to go for it, Archmage is probably your best investment, since it's also useful in other decks. 

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The other problem is there are just too many demons. In most tribes if everyone goes that tribe, then everyone loses. But there are so many demons that you can have the entire battleground go demons and it still works for most, if not all, of them. 

 Demons (13) have fewer cards than both Beasts (17) and Mechs (22), not including menagerie cards. The problem isn't the number of the demons, it's that the demon synergy is too strong. 

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Faceless manipulator should not be in the game, I think faceless shambler might be fine at 6. 

I actually think Plaguebringer would be an interesting tier 6 minion as a "create your own Maexna", 

 I like the Plaguebringer idea, but I feel like they might as well remove Maexxna if they did this

 Nobody wants to see a Hydra or Foe Reaper with poisonous. 

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The only Tier 6 I consistently aim for is Zapp. I think the rest really depend on your build. There isn't even a Tier 6 Demon supporter. I think a good and reasonable Tier 6 minion would either be Faceless Manipulator or Faceless Shambler. Personally, I would like to see Hadronox, Gahz'rilla, or even Grimestreet Protector get added to the pool.

 Gahz'rilla is a great idea! Agree with some of the other folks that Faceless Manipulator might be a bit too strong. Especially with Golden Rift Reavers running rampant in the meta

I daresay that Gahz'rilla would be fine at 5 stars, especially considering the current state of beasts. Realistically, how often will a 9-health minion survive a hit in the late game? Maexxna is almost always better. 

 Moment of silence for everyone who disenchanted Force of Nature when Doppelgangster was released. 

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shaman have been dropping and dropping since the new xpack... its under 60% win rate now if there let it stay it will be at 55% in 1 week

 Even if that were true, 55% winrate is still way too high. 

Calling it now - this is going to be one of the top 10 best cards of the set. 

Stats and mana cost do not follow a linear pattern. 1-drops have to be stronger because cards themselves are resources. 

What? No "Fluffy Warrior Dragon"?

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Do you decide what is fun and what is not in this game for everyone? 

 Like I said. The only reason for finding fun playing that deck is that you find enjoyment in others misery, in which case I´m very worried.

 You said it, but it does not make it automatically true. Also the fact that you started calling everybody else kids right-away kind of tells how immature you are.

Do you decide what is fun and what is not in this game for everyone? 

Its really sad that someone who could climb to top 10 legend cant adapt to the meta.

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Ez choice actually, remove preordering and priest/mage class. Problem solved.

 Why would you remove pre-ordering when it's the cheapest way to buy a lot of packs? The normal bundles Blizzard offers are rip-offs in comparison.

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Well it's quarantine so wouldn't be surprised if someone got it

 

 Assuming 50% win-rate (I think it is fair as no everyone is able to achieve the same wr%, which the deck has according to the stats) and 10 minutes per game = 333,33 hours of constant playing.  Almost 2 weeks of not leaving your computer, not sleeping, pissing or anything.

Let's give them 60% wr and it's still 278 hours.

I know, the lockdown. But many of us still work (I do), either remotely or because their job is "essential". We still have other hobbies, like reading, watching films and shows. We still have our close ones. 

To spend your entire life, even in a lockdown, in an online game is something I can't comprehend. Simple as that.

 Its 400 hours or 16 days and 16 hours since AoO launced. Assuming they played only DH and with a 60% WR - 278 hours. 278 hours over 16 days is 17 hours (rounded down) of playtime every day. 

No, not even the most hardcore can play that much. I would say it wont be achieved for another month.

 You're very wrong.

 Also FYI it's possible for a good player to abuse the system and farm noobs in the lower ranks. That makes it a lot easier.

 Well, it's true, but who on earth would even do this? xD I got bored after like 110 games with Demon Hunter and now I have 73 wins and no urge to play him more. As much as he is fun to play at first, it just gets boring to "go face" all the time. I prefer control decks so that may be the case, but still... I can't imagine a person try-harding and wasting every minute of their free time to "farm noobs". I would probably die of boredom halfway through...

 Whatever you enjoy might be different for other people.

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Small sidenote for example.  Hearthstone is currently sitting just two weeks after expansion release and new rotation year of cards.  14th on Twitch in viewership.  There was times for several years where it ALWAYS was sitting top 3 or top 5.  But please tell me how I or others are bad and not just are actually sounding the alarm that the game is in steep decline and without drastic changes, will go the way of Heroes of the Storm

 Did you make an account just to push your narrative? If people enjoy a game, they play it. If they don’t, they typically stop. Let those that enjoy it continue to do so. If that no longer applies to you, stop playing. Pretty straight forward. 

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This game has been dying for a couple of years now.  It will continue and eventually go the way of Heroes of the Storm if something doesn't shift.

 Ah, yes, there years old "I am bad at the game and I don't like the meta = actual proof that the game is dying" argument.

The moment something is born, it starts dying.

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 It is, and it always will be the MOST problematic class, to a large part thanks to having the strongest basic / classic Set BEFORE the introduction of DH, which is the only class that matches it.

They missed the Opportunity to finally HoF Edwin VanCleef and that dumbster card Shadowstep, literally both of them cards that are winning games on its own.

Other cards that need urgently emergency Fixes

Blackjack Stunner - FIX: Remove (cost 2 more) I dunno who was possibly that drunk in the Card development team, but this little friend is by FAR and even with pre-nerfed Battlefiend in mind the most BROKEN 1 drop since ....probably pre-nerfed Undertaker ?!              HELLO ?!? It is Sap AND Freezing Trap COMBINED for 1 Mana !!!!! and... ON A STICK !!!! The condition is waaay too easily met. GGNOTHXBLIZZ 

Sap - FIX: Cost 3 Mana always a classic. I don't even mind Seal Fate, since Sap is WAY more busted at its cost, the amount of Tempo you get in making someone play that precious big minion again, is just instant game changing. Furthermore Roque spams these low cost high effect cards, and Opponents fall behind so much in tempo, that it's nearly impossible to recover.

Shadowjeweler Hanar - FIX: Cost 3 Mana Who am I NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS !! Who else is getting Flashbacks when this card is in Action. Building a Christmas Tree full of Value is almost as easy to accomplish as back in Secret Paly, the only argument saving this guy is the fact that its a Legendary, and it should be powerful. Yes, to an extend, but sure as hell NOT FOR 2 MANA.

Alright, too lazy for the descriptions of the others, but they all follow the same principle, Tempo balance in Mind and doing a BIT less for its Mana costs.

Heistbaron Togwaggle FIX: Cost 7 Mana

Galakrond, the Nightmare FIX: Battlecry: Draw 1 / 2 / 3 card. It costs (1)

Shadowstep FIX: Cost 1 Mana 

 

Edwin VanCleef FIX: Cost 4 Mana

 

The entire Roque class needs a complete Nerf Overhaul to make it more on Par with the weaker other classes. Blizzard is clearly playing Favorites, they never nerf this class and instead giving them more busted new Toys every time, which is part of the reason I stop playing when yet another Roque Meta settles.

 Yes let’s just kill rogue as class I can see this not even happening stop you bitching.

Seems like you have missed the "undamaged" character part of seal of fate. With your logic Backstab should cost 1 or 2 Mana (because the lackey part is not there). I don't see a problem with it.

Both cards are fine, it's about dealing with the lackeys early to prevent this circumstances.