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Quote from Claeshj >>

Fun to see all these casual players condemning a format they can’t properly comprehend. 

We have seen community tournaments with sideboards of 10, which all the pros participating unanimously agreed was too many.

Personally I’m very excited to see how this will play out, and it will actually get me back into watching tournament play.

This will not be the final form, thinking that is ignorant. If you’ve ever held a job anywhere that develops a product, you should also know this. It takes iterations to perfect, but I’m very excited about this first rendition. 

 Your input would be well received if it didn't come off so elitest.  Your assumptions are poor, and well all assumptions are stupid at the best of times. 

Well yee master of the cards.....I hereby invite you to actually contribute and give a short little explanation for the casual condemners!  Enlighten them so they too can can understand the excitement of what is to come!  :)

Quote from endlesstides >>

Ha! "We're pissed off Blizzard! We demand Tournaments!" 

 "Sure, here ya go" 

"Bastards! That's not what we asked for! You've ruined EVERYTHING!" 

At least there's *some* movement towards it. For fucks sake.. . 

 My favourite reply so far!  :D

I'll definitely be playing tournies, and it WILL be a lot easier for me to enter them as a F2P player.  But on paper comparing the current format to the new format, it just feels watered down, rigid, and too dependent on everything that happens *before* the games.

I may be wrong, lot of the time am, I'm here to learn and get myself a more informed decision.  Hope it's great!

....garbage and not thought out at all!

Congrats Blizzard, you're going to completely kill tournament play. One deck with 2x 5 card sideboards? Best of 3? What will you get?

Stale, boring, quick matches that will predominantly end 2-0, and tournaments that will be 90% a roll of the dice on deck selection. Unless something MAJOR is coming in the rotation, there's no way pilots are going to be able to build in enough variation on a 5 card sideboard to swing a bad matchup.

It looks like you've just ripped Magic without even crunching the numbers or put much thought into it. Was there even any consultation with the community? I'd have assumed there'd at least have been a "pro forum" to discuss the potentiality of the proposed format, but I'm getting the feeling that's not the case.

"....we're eager to implement community feedback to improve it as needed throughout 2019" screams of throwing sh*t at the proverbial wall (priest?) and seeing what sticks.

https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/22882311/

*feelsbadman*

Nice run man!  I'm guessing by the game durations that's the "Beast Hunter" as I think it should be called in HSreplay.net at least.  There actually is a Midrange Hunter deck that still exists, spells, spellstones, Zul'jin & a garbage WR LOL

It doesn't feel intermittent.  It feels more like a routing issue.  I can guarantee any time I log in with my standard connection I'll drop, and I can guarantee that if I connect through the VPN it'll remain stable.  

As eliasfajardo says, might need to do some googling about it.

It's absolutely BM.  OP *STATED* that he was doing it to mess with his opp.  There's nothing strategic about that.  It's called being a dick.  Warrior already has a bad enough rep as it is!

Either post on topic or just don't post.  Certain people have turned this into a tit-for-tat pissing match.

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Yeah, that is why he said "here is a brief example", dude.

 Sherman, what actual value to bring to a discussion?  You're just the dude that stands there looking like a dick saying, "yeah man, what he said....unf unf unf"

Just....fuck off

WTF? How did such a post offend you that much? Calm down, I wasn't trying to be rude... :/

Like seriously, I'm not joking here. Maybe I shouldn't have said "dude" at the end, I don't know... :(

 Fair enough then mate, I apologise.  That's the issue with text-based communication.  Clearly you wrote it in a completely different context to how I read it.

Looked all too obviously like, "Duh, are you stupid or something?".  I just read into something that wasn't there.  My bad!!

Quote from Fierytear >>

Who cares man it's just tits get over it

 Said NO MAN EVER!!!!

GODDAMNIT!!!!!

WHO AM I GONNA FAP TO NOW WHILE I'M LADDERING?!

Quote from honkydonky >>

it has always been a pay to win game, if you dont buy cards to get the whole set you will not be able to make the boring netdecker decks that evryone plays, just gonna have to suck it up

Just do daily quests for gold buy more packs then finish for the day, simple

very little incentive to ladder climb nowadays anyway

 

 Disagree - you're bitter.  Back to the salt thread!!  <3

Yes, everything I wrote on these forums in the past days proved right - from people losing more time on average to climb up instead of quitting and "co-oping" with others to the absolutely unnecessary climb with the bonus pool for those which MMR is pretty well known based on previous month games.

This ladder is illogical and everyone will understand it sooner or later for themselves.

Here are some tips when you have the bonus pool:

- You can quit on turn 1 depending on the match-up and your hand - it's faster when you have a bonus pool since you lose MMR (this usually means weaker opponent next game) and don't lose time to play an unfavourite game.

- You can stay at the "safe floors" and give free wins to others to lose MMR and then get the big bonus streak vs weaker opponents.

You'll get 60 extra packs with the new system (if Legend, otherwise 48 at Diamond 10, the equivalent of Rank 5) over the year, plus the non-golden cards (12 epics and 84 rares over the year) , which is a lot more value than the golden epic, specially since the packs are from the latest expansion.

If you dusted all the golden epics you would gain 4800 dust a year. With 60 packs you'll on average open 3 legendaries and 10 epics, not counting goldens from all rarities. On average, thanks to epics, legendaries and goldens, packs are worth ~100 dust, so you'll get 6000 dust on average a year if Legend, or the same 4800 you get at Rank 5 by reaching Diamond 10 now, if you dust everything. But probably it'll be more, not to mention it saves dusts from your bank if you open stuff you don't need to craft.

Also, hint: Since it rewards packs from the latest expansion, you should consider waiting April, 7th to ladder if you want 4 or 5 extra Ashes of Outland packs instead of Descent of Dragons. 

Quote from LessThan3 >>

LOSING

Any information on this?  I had assumed that any loss was a reduction of 1 star - but my first loss at Bronze 8.3 didn't lose a star.

Blizzard are sooooo shit at communicating the finer details of what they are doing!

 

 You don't lose stars in Bronze ranks. Blizzard told it.

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They actually "doomswitched" your account to give you bad draws, so it's just you that's experiencing this.

 I hoping for some good math people give me the odds for this happen, I play almost only Galakrond rogue since release and never happen this before 2 games in a row and now was 6.

It is very weird at least.

 OK, here you go then:

The chance of both of those cards being in the bottom 5 cards of your deck is 5/30 x 4/29, or about 2,3% - should happen about once every 43.5 games. Bottom half is much more likely: 15/30 x 14/29 or approximately 24.1 %.

The chance of either happening 6 times in a row is another matter: 

0.000000015% for bottom 5

0.2% for bottom half

So, pretty unlikely. BUT: that doesn't mean impossible. The chance to win the lottery is pretty slim as well, and yet most weeks someone DOES win the lottery. So, it might still be the case that you have been VERY unlucky.

Also keep in mind that games are independent from each other, so the chance of the cards being in the bottom half / 5 cards of the deck don't change, no matter if they were on top of the deck or at the bottom the last 1, 2, 3 or 1000 games.

Imagine being a 5 billion $ company

Thinking to yourself: "Hmmm.. I think we are not greedy enough yea lets cancel those 60 gold quests back to 50"

"Oh and lets NOT ANNOUNCE THIS CHANGE TO MAKE EVERYONE FREAK OUT AND RAGE!!!"

"Yea... That is a great idea wow we are blizzard we are soooooo smart and our card game is completely balanced!"

"No need to listen to a 100 million player-base community asking for a nerf on the mage's quest"

One line as an explanation; Thank you Sir

OT:

Blizzard is introducing Overwatch Toxicity(tm) to the game in order to make as many people suffer as possible while opening the door for trolls et al. Thank you Blizzard for reproducing your ladder system that has been proven to be flawed several times.

Moreover, it is the money baby: When the MMR wants you to buy card-packs it will keep you in Bronze until have paid enough money to leave:

Here is one proof:

Match Making will make you buy stuff

When the new ladder hits, I will still play, knowing that the game I loved is gone..( honestly, it died three expansions ago ^^)

Roast me; tell me to git gud, tell me to put on my Aluminium hat and the Overwatch-Knighthood is yours baby

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You're unlikely to get banned for that (it's against the TOS but undetectable, and it's so basic you could even do it mechanically).

But there is a measure in place to stop persistent conceding.  If your winrate falls below a certain level, you will no longer get gold for wins.

Would not advise doing this, Blizz will probably ban the account. May be wrong but I remembered them doing a crackdown on something like this long ago. 

Quote from airalert3 >>

Anything that punishes degenerate agro players is A-OK in my book!

 Out of curiosity: How is aggro anymore degenerate than e.g. control warrior?