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Quote from tripzplash >>

 you still get bonus even if you dont play i not played wild for like 1 year and i got 5x star bonus

but i only got 7 star bonus on standard and on plat 10 1 star now with no bonus allrdy so gonna take me 60 wins more then i lose to get legned from now on + i had to win like 20 game to get here i had a break for 2 morths i was legned 2 morths ago so sucks to have to be so far behind now i was rank 10 last morth becouse of simi afking just doing my quest

 You only got that bonus because of the changeover - next month you'll get duck eggs if you don't play Wild

Just realised I was wrong!  My bad.

It would definitely be a kick in the nutsack, but I think the climb after a full season off would have to be taken in stages.  The first season back would be horrible, but at least you'd have a multiplier the next season.

But saying that, I can't defend the new system against what you say.  It's designed to keep the gears grinding with massive penalties for anyone that takes any time off. 

It's great for one thing only - regaining your rank from the previous season.

As for the rewards, they're great - but they're not going to look as great next season as they do this season - partly because they're new and more so because of the first time rewards that are coming too.

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Quote from LessThan3 >>

Way to cater to the masses

 Doing things that people like? Get the fuck out of here, Blizzard!
Do things people hate!

 No, shit the masses can understand.  Perfect example.  All good, you enjoy the ride on the dumb train.

Effectively when you get a 50g you reroll it - and have a 50% chance of getting a 60g.  With a 50/50 split that means everyone now has a 25% chance to reroll any quest into a 60g quest.  Of course 50% of the original quests you won't want to reroll (they're already 60g), but the odds aren't in our favour for sure!

Quote from LordYaraxxus >>

 yeah they did that for 2 years and the game almost went to nonexistence, I don't think they would make such dumb mistakes anymore. Let's see what is their explanation for this change :/

 My guess is that it's a case of they had no idea of the implication of adding the box full of 60g quests to the current system and they decided to try and sneak the change in when everyone was distracted with rotation funs.  The timing smells fishy for sure.  Not a new tactic by any means.

For the new and great things that they are bandstanding about you can find changes that essentially counter-act those changes that are being snuck in the back door.

Quote from LiveMorph >>

you might be right, i need another month to retry lol. i still have a x2 bonus in legend, showing over the legend rank, weird.

 You were high legend then?  What was your legend rank?

You're going to get a multiplier until you return to the rank you finished the previous season in - regardless of what that was.  It's just a little difficult to decipher what that is with the change over - it'll be clear next month.

Quote from HoraceWalpol >>

I repeated Blizzard's own argument: that they still wanted to give the players a sense of progression. And I think they've achieved that. That's what I meant by 'working'.

 Well this just pretty much proves the OPs point that the ranked system is redundant - as stated by Blizzard.  "Sense" of progression.  They came to the conclusion that an MMR based ranking system would not be visually enticing to encourage people to play more, so they hid it behind a pointless ladder system with pretty colours and numbers people can count on their fingers.  Way to cater to the masses to maximise your cash flow Blizzard!  :D

Quote from Nickfuryusn >>

Somebody call the wahhhmbulance for this guy please. Hes been crying ever since the system was announced lmao

 At least he's got something intelligent to say

Quote from TyrantrumRex >>

There are 10-20 million active players in any given season. Just get 1-5% of them to sign your petition, and maybe Blizzard will consider it... I'm personally going to see how it goes before I throw a tantrum, because that's what reasonable people do.

 Reasonable people also don't serve up shit sandwiches

Well done!  I think it's going to be harder for non-legend players to reach the rank though - that multiplier stacks like compound interest and when it runs out the grinds is going to be harder than the old system.  The great thing about the new system is it should be super easy for players to tread water at a specific rank each month.

Quote from maverick34111 >>

If you were legend last month, then you would get 11 stars per win and -1 star per loss.  So with a 50% win rate you would ascend the ladder rather quickly.  Your first win would move you up to bronze 7 (with 2 stars); then you lose and go to bronze 7 (1 star) then you win and go to bronze 4 (3 stars); then you lose and go bronze 4 (2 stars); and so on.  New players wouldn't get the star bonus in the first month so they would have quite a grind, but returning players should get back to their previous ranks pretty easily.  Not sure what your complaint is all about.

 As another example it would take 66 games for a R5 player from last month to reach the equivalent Diamond-10 - which is a crap tonne faster than the previous system.  Still not as fast as everyone (theoretically) going on a concede-fest

Same W/L in old system would've gotten the player from R10 to mid R8! 

Quote from Skelos_bg >>

Yes, but the purpose is not clear at all - why go from zero each month when they know our MMR?

 As only a few people seem to have figured out - the ranking system is arbitrary for the entire duration of the multiplier.  I suspect the only reason it's structured that was is to provide a base line for the stacked rewards as that's the only thing the ranking system serves.  Blizzard stated that matchmaking is based on MMR until the multiplier is exhausted, which clearly states the ranking system is redundant until that point!

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Quote from Dorrian >>

The two of you are not the only players with a bonus.

 Exactly because of this everyone can start doing it when they realize it's faster.

geez, you're one stubborn feller :)

most people don't give a damn about rank, they want to play the game

even on the forum seems you're in the minority about this and I haven't seen anyone do it or mention it anywhere else

even if it does eventually happen (which I doubt it will) blizzard is quickly going to fix, not sure how, but they will find a way

 Quite a hypocritical statement when 95% of the respondents to this post are wholeheartedly steadfast and stubborn in their counter-opinion.  DIscussion should be exactly that, not people pissing on someone for having an idea that is outside their usual line of thought.

Quote from Ghostfeint >>

My understanding is it’s still very similar to the last system in that if you dropped to rank 5 you were still playing other players who dropped to rank 5. It’s just now you have way more ranks to climb, presumably because of the new rewards. If you would try this strategy in the last sytem, then maybe it would work, otherwise I don’t think it will.

 That's a negative.  This only applies once the multiplier is exhausted - and the OP is referring to exploiting the multiplier.

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Quote from LessThan3 >>

The general mass population are allergic to critical thinking.  They mask this with insults and denial.

The OP has merit in theory - and he is correct in saying that if top streamers were to implement it, then the rest would follow.  The majority are sheeple who just copy everyone else.  You only need to look for when Thijs (etc) plays a new deck and it's in the meta within 24hrs.

The sheeple are in denial though, and they don't wish to actually think about their position - so they'll continue to criticise and marginalise.

Good work thinking outside the box OP.

 there is a big flaw in thinking that any streamer would actually implement it though

people watch streams to see how people play the game not how they are conceding, do you really think that big streamers like Kripp or Thijs would start conceding their games? for what? they can get the same or better results by playing the game

it took me literally 15 minutes and 4 games to get halfway through silver rank from bronze 10, and that was with only 6x multiplier, with higher multipliers you'd just fly through low ranks 

 No I didn't say it was probably, but it IS plausible.  The issue is that people refuse to think outside of the box, and they shit hard on anyone that does.  For a lot of reasons stated, the outcome the OP has posted about isn't likely to occur - but it *IS* plausible.  It's human nature for people to look for ways to find a cheats way to reach an end goal.  It simply comes down to a numbers game of how many are willing to exploit a system vs how many are not.

To be fair, for someone who subjectively values golden cards significantly higher than the majority of players this change *would* look like a downgrade - they're entitled to that opinion as golden cards are what motivate them.  Me on the other hand, golden cards are nothing more than dust receptacles.