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Quote from Mojomaker >>

I see people complaining about the decks being played in casual all the time. But no one seems to have a possible solution method. I rarely play casual, so I couldn't care less tbh. But shouldn't you be able to play what you want in a mode called "casual"?

You can play with your homebrew decks and you can also try a tier 1 deck without sweating it up in Ranked. 

I, personally,  try my shitty decks in ranked because beating a rank 24 guy who is playing with basic cards is not fun for me. I'm not judging anyone, it's just my personal opinion. 

So, my question is: Why is casual problematic for you? And how would you fix it?

If it helps I started a thread with an idea on how to fix this. Anyone interested in joining the REAL casual network is welcome to post there and have some fun:

https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/222850-who-wants-to-play-fairer-hearthstone

With this system only in its infancy I think we can rely on what would be widely perceived as really powerful, medium and meh. I don't think a 50% will be really really upset if they challenge a person that says they have a 60% that turns out to be more like 70%. It's more about curbing any obvious shenanigans and generally top performing decks/builds are not welcome. Even rough power ratings will be enough for a 20% to know they probably won't beat someone else's 65% and it saves them the trouble of waiting out the loss.

You are of course welcome to take an idea from a top performing deck and build around it yourself with whatever you have on hand so long as it doesn't come too close to the super high performing/wallet version or its power level.

I expect some people will run into things that sometimes seem more powerful than they expected: we must all understand that sometimes a memey deck like bombhunter or mill mage is going to get a great draw and blow you out. This will be up to you to reasonably judge and not just report someone because they lucked out with non-OP cards. We can't completely avoid the RNG of it all - the best we can do is give people a fighting chance so they're not queuing into the same old tourney blowout decks.

Who knows - maybe brewers will use this system to find interactions other people haven't thought of yet.

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Quote from Shadowrisen >>

@ OP

I don't accept the premise that the game is particularly unfair

That being said, I sincerely compliment you.  Been hovering around these forums for years and this is the first proactive solution I've seen.  It's amazing to watch people post month after month after month about how other people have to change for their benefit.

I say thee yay sir or madame

Agreed. Congratulations to the OP for doing something constructive - though I share misgivings about criticizing the competitive play-mode for actually being competitive. If I go to the local store, intending to compete with a bunch of perfect strangers in a MtG store tourney, I know what to expect if I choose to bring my meme deck. The competitive mode in HS is no different.

Some advice - if you are able, attend a Fireside Gathering. Meeting like-minded HS players IRL will quickly expand your Friends list to include people who want to play the game the same way you do. I have about three dozen IRL Friends in-game that I've met at FSGs - we often play "tournaments" against each other with crazy decks. Good luck to the OP.

 I don't think that I claimed it was unfair, I just thought we could make it fairer. I see fairness as a scale not a dichotomy so I think this is an incremental step towards making it fairer for those of us without a meaningful or enjoyable place in Ranked or Casual (Second Ranked).

I also didn't criticise competitive mode for being competitive. Just the fact that people use the casual system for ranked quality decks without ladder anxiety makes it hard for the rest of us to enjoy the game. This method offers an alternative to that.

I'm glad you touched on MTG play because as I mentioned in the first post MTG Commander players have identified deck power mismatches as a huge inhibitor for enjoyable gameplay and have begun to analyse power levels of their own decks using percentages the same way I suggested here so that Grizzly Bears isn't suddenly up against Black Lotus without knowing why first.

Quote from Rubinlibelle >>

We could also make a group within the Blizzard App. And maybe we should have a codeword for challenging. I suggest "#clownfiesta". 

 That's a good idea i'll look into creating one when I get home and i'll sort out invites later. It's now almost 5pm in Sydney so it'll be a few hours til it's ready.

Also I stupidly didn't take server into account so maybe i'll make one for each server.

Hi All

TLDR: Come join a growing community of likeminded players looking for a proper casual environment without the risk of running into top tier tourney decks over and over.

Set some decks aside specifically for this purpose - no top tier stuff that is plaguing casual right now. We only want meme decks, budget decks or nooby decks from restricted collections (i.e. the kinds of decks SUPPOSED to be in casual).

THIS IS NOT A PLEA FOR BLIZZARD TO DO SOMETHING. THIS IS NOT A WHINE THREAD. THIS IS US DOING SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE OURSELVES. So please kindly refrain from negative comments about how Blizzard won't listen or how casual is fine/not fine because that is not the purpose of this thread.

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- Deleted deck rating system - too many people asking me how to estimate a deck's power out of 100. Just tell people what you're playing.

I don't know why I expected anything different.