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I'd have to say my favourite are my friends, they ain't released anything yet but been making a new card game for the last 3 years (only 3 of them). The cards are just stand-ins but they're using marvel comics so its easier for them to design effects for the characters. It's looking pretty complex now with lots of ways to play but is still very basic in terms of animations and has zero interface or way to build decks yet, they have to literally programme the deck into the game but it's very fun to play when it doesn't crash or some bizarre bug happens, I'm just very impressed with what they have so far accomplished while running full time jobs and one of them recently gained a new family member. They could definitely sell it to a larger company and make a fair wedge or develop it without marvel properties and getting sued by them...

How will this work with curses? If I have a 4 damage curse in my hand and give it to my opponent will it remain as 4 or go down to 1 for my opponent?

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How do you know they didn't nerf 20 cards before release of previous expansions ?

 They probably did, but they didn't announce the cards and then nerf them before its release like they have this expansion. Releasing cards and not knowing where the meta is gonna go and then have to make changes make sense but to have made a card and then reveal it and then go "oh actually that's too strong" after a single video/game clearly suggests they didn't test cards at a very fundamental level. It's not like a specific card turns out to shape a meta because there is no meta to shape yet. 

And you clearly didn't read my comment that they probably hadn't tested the card up until the announcement video with the card in play (for probably the first time ever) otherwise that card would've been nerfed before it's announcement/release. My comment is the fact that it seems like the announcement of said cards were the first time they were played and if that's the case then this expansion could have some serious issues with balancing 

I just feel it's weird that they are announcing the cards and then nerfing them after they showed them in action. It's almost as if the mage and paladin card was literally never touched during play tests and initial balancing. 

I thought the rogue one can now be silenced down to a 1/1, the wording is similar to Edwin, whereas before it acted like jades. But I tend to get cards wrong when they're first announced like Drekthar

Powercreep is always gonna be a problem but too much too quickly can be a major problem

As of now not even 25 cards have been announced and 3 of them have already been nerfed. Deathborne went from 5mana to 6. Elitist Snob lost 1 attack and Rogue's new location can now be silenced. 

Is this normal? I swear I've seen cards that were announced with a keyword or extra stats than what they're released with but I never knew if that was me misreading them to begin with or not.

Either way, I don't think I've seen this amount of nerfs so early on and I don't know if I'm the only one worried with how powerful the other 110 cards are and how untested this expansion clearly is?

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Great to see people having success with decks starting 40 cards and 40 health, I'm just worried that the cause of this is that Dev team want to open design space / increase power level of future cheap-mana cost cards (basically helping Aggro/Combo decks to punish slower games, so we can have 1-2 mana cost cards dealing 5-6 dmg to the face...)

 What happens when he rotates out though? If they powercreep cards by 33% in line with the health gain so we're looking at stuff like 10 DMG fireballs and he rotates out, Blizz must realise the game would be unplayable without a couple hundred nerfs afterwards

I mean they brought in classic mode that has a very limited amount of money Blizz can make per player and the vast majority of players didn't really need to spend any money on it anyway. So there could be a chance. But it'll more likely be a one off Tavern Brawl. One that I'd actually enjoy too.

I do wish they added a little casual sandbox mode where there's like a dozen different permanent modes you can play for fun. All commons for one, all rares for another and all legendaries, 15 hp max, 100 hp, start on 3 mana, 5 mana crystals max, only neutrals. Nothing exciting or crazy but enough to come back and play or challenge friends on

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Oh god, he talks about democracy, on a private site no less. It would seem you're not mature enough to understand adult world.

 What does democracy and this being a "private site" (which it certainly ain't) have to do with each other? I'm pretty sure the white house/10 downing Street etc are all private buildings too but are also part of democratic countries. 

Also if anything, private sites are closer to a democracy than public sites (like this one is) because everyone who is allowed access to them generally have more say/power on the site. 

 The 'democracy' people mention is about 'free speech'. Free speech laws exists to stop THE STATE from controlling it, not a private party in a private setting. 10 downing and the White House most certainly CAN and WILL force you to control your demeanor, while if you're in my house i can control your speech and actions by kicking you out. You have no right to 'free speech' in my house, just like you have no intrinsic right to free speech on this site in particular. You have it because THEY allow it, in their private setting. Because they chose to moderate they have an obligation to keep doing it, so THEY don't become liable for something YOU say. A private site has nothing to do with democracy, it's not legally a public quorum, even if Musk implies it.

That being said, from a functional point of view, having likes and dislikes counted and shown separately can show that a thing is popular yet contested. Having them shown together in the same situation can imply lack of interest instead. First approach just gives more information.

 Okay... That's nice to know about free speech, but I wasn't really talking about free speech.. I was pretty much only saying that this ain't a private site. 

But if we're talking about free speech then I agree with you there, even in top economic democratic countries the idea of free speech is.. interpretational at best, with plenty of people being arrested for saying something someone else disagrees with... But when it comes to the whole "majority of a state have a say/vote on things" part of democracy, then this site technically has it with the upvotes/downvotes. I mean "vote" is written in the words and that's quite a big part of democracy, allowing everyone the right to vote.

Also I have no idea what Musk has to do with this, I don't follow him or anything so I can't say anything on that. The way I see it is if over half the members on a site have the right to vote and speak, then it's pretty much a democracy as far as websites go. But the idea that a site can actually be a true democracy is naively optimistic at best, and a site dedicated to Hearthstone would definitely have some rules about what not to talk about. Basically anything not Hearthstone related 😂 which does take away the right of total free speech but when it comes to Hearthstone and blizzard, then I think we have a pretty large spectrum on what we can talk about, you can praise them or condemn them, claim they're the worst company, compare them to cancer, whatever you want and chances are, the comment won't be removed. But if I kept uploading muffin recipes on here every day, I'm pretty a Mod would send me a message saying "Dude. Can you not?"

 I saw that with a paladin somehow, can't remember how they got it but I had a "oh that's cool I guess" moment when they flooded the board with it, so I guess it's not a bug, pretty sure priest would just heal all enemy targets and warlock would just draw lots. They all just trigger and target an enemy if possible. The deal 6 damage to face for shaman's hero is what I wanna see it used with next...

To put it like this, it won't be changed or "fixed" 

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Oh god, he talks about democracy, on a private site no less. It would seem you're not mature enough to understand adult world.

 What does democracy and this being a "private site" (which it certainly ain't) have to do with each other? I'm pretty sure the white house/10 downing Street etc are all private buildings too but are also part of democratic countries. 

Also if anything, private sites are closer to a democracy than public sites (like this one is) because everyone who is allowed access to them generally have more say/power on the site. 

Absolutely. That weapon is wayyy too swingy, draw it turn 1 and it's an easy win. Also I think BubbleBot is very powerful too, wouldn't mind that going to 5 mana or targeting adjacent mechs instead. I wouldn't mind seeing mage's weapon buffed to 1 mana too but that might fall into similar problems with it being really strong on turn 1

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Mods, are you sure this is legit?

Take a look at this: https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/248012-thoughts-on-diamond-cards?page=3

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I'm a fan of these updates. I think it's fun.

 "edited 1 day ago" by the person who today says they actually help make diamond cards.

By pure coincidence, your linkedin says you joined blizzard 1 year and 2 months ago, and this comment and thread was made 1 year and less than 3 months ago.

I don't mean anything by this, I just think it's funny lol

 Valid point. OP posted in that topic and his post didn’t ‘sound’ as a dev one. Again i apologize if i am wrong you not being a dev.

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That will be 4.99 for 1 word opinion. Or you can play pay extra 2.99 to unlock an opinion in a FULL SENTENCE!!! LIMITED OFFER RIGHT NOW!!!

* Throws money at you*

 Does this sound dev like (* Throws money at you*).

Hard to take a dev who talks like this serious. Just my opinion.

 Tbf this thread was posted a couple days before the patch announcement and that was worded as "the announcement of the announcement" so it's almost as if the PR team had words with Devs and said "let's act more like the consumers and take the mick out of ourselves a bit, seem a bit more on their level and relatable". And his comment was made just hours before Hearthstones official Twitter made a very similar self aware joke. To me it actually makes this seem more legit 

I didn't realise moonbeam druid was a thing, I built one for the challenge and it performed very well and one of the more fun otk decks I've played for a while bc it's not just sitting and wiping boards the whole game but yeah I agree, creativity with the decks is why I play Hearthstone and sometimes I lose to a deck and think "damn that looks good/fun" and attempt to make a version myself but that's as far as I go with netdecking. I do wish there was some game mode that would allow for more freedom and fun but that is probably impossible to design and build and actually have it work as intended 

Even though I'm probably far off a diamond portrait for any class I too would like to see a next advancement after the 1000 wins.

But diamond cards don't mean as much to me as something like the Arthur portrait for Paladin for beating the lich king with every class or the card backs for completing heroics. It'd be nice to see some diamond cards that feel more earned rather than bought or just by playing a few games for an event. Just like the 1000 win portrait, Diamond cards feel like they're for the peacocks that like to show off their feathers, so let the peacocks fly and show off!

Diamond Reno Jackson has to be on the tables though... His intro line would have a lot more emphasis.