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They also made it so you can’t “dream” your own minion back to your hand, so no infinite ysera value

 Is that a problem?

I’ll be ready to complain if they don’t include at least one of the Highlander legendaries in the core set lol.

I’m not ready to say goodbye to my beloved highlander mage just yet.

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Lol, fair enough.  I was just laughing, reflecting on how "niche audience" is probably the nicest thing I've been called on these forums so far.

All other considerations aside, I've never understood how Ayala keeps his job.

This was his exact quote on Tickatus. It pretty much tells us all we need to know. 

"The people that love disruption LOVE disruption though. It's the reason they play the game. To do mean stuff to people! (i know because i am this person)" 

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Quote from Killzun >>

Any complain or observation brings the juice drinking trolls out

 This is the main problem I have with the hearthstone community. A large number seem absolutely incapable of having any kind of actual discussion. Click on any thread, no matter the subject, & you will see all the same comments. 

"Quit whining/crying"

"Play aggro" 

"Git gud" 

Very few meaningful comments, if any at all. Just an absolute unwillingness to even attempt to put together a compelling argument. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but this is the primary reason I no longer visit the main subreddit at all. 

 Well, when no one on the opposing side will even respond to the repeated observations that control and combo decks DON'T lose to this deck at an oppressive rate, what else could possibly constitute a "meaningful comment"?

Anecdotes aren't meaningful comments either, with regards to compelling arguments.  Despite the repeated assertions that facts are subjective and evidence is meaningless, I continue to point out the obvious.  So far, I've seen nothing to support the notion that Tickatus is holding back what would otherwise be a slower and more control/combo oriented meta.

Furthermore, the actual premise of the OP remains as absurd as it was the day of posting.  I tried being meaningful, and it was ignored.  So I'll go with the language more people seem to engage.

 My comment was speaking more in a general sense, not necessarily about this particular topic. What I said certainly doesn't apply to you, as you seem to always respond with an actual thought out argument, as opposed to the typical troll type response I often see on here. That, in itself, is appreciated, whether we agree on a topic or not. 

But just for the record, I don't agree that Tickatus, itself, is officially the death of control. I do think the cards' effect, is fundamentally flawed, & the epitome of lazy design. I personally, would prefer if the card had never been printed, but after reading Iksars response on Twitter, I now understand that they have essentially thrown caution to the wind as far as card design, to appease a niche audience. 

Quote from RendInFriend >>

Nitroboost stealth rogue is fun and has some insane swings, but it loses hard to meta decks. It gets destroyed by both treant and gibberling druid because they force rogue to trade instead of go face. Druid can fill the board and if you leave 3 creatures for their next turn, they can reliably burst you down from 30. So rogue has to trade their stealthed 3/1 for a 2/2... not optimal. Rogue doesn’t handle highlander hunter well. Abbess Allura on turn 4 then coin stops them solid, but that stops every single deck solid. I also keep hearing that control warlock is bad, but they sure seem to be able to clear rogue and druid boards with ease.

 That's interesting, because according to lot of people on this forum, control warlock doesn't actually exist on ladder & is just a figment of our imagination. 

Quote from Killzun >>

Any complain or observation brings the juice drinking trolls out

 This is the main problem I have with the hearthstone community. A large number seem absolutely incapable of having any kind of actual discussion. Click on any thread, no matter the subject, & you will see all the same comments. 

"Quit whining/crying"

"Play aggro" 

"Git gud" 

Very few meaningful comments, if any at all. Just an absolute unwillingness to even attempt to put together a compelling argument. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but this is the primary reason I no longer visit the main subreddit at all. 

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Sounds good to me.  Nearly every class has options with dominating win rates against Tick Lock.  Farm the wins and enjoy.

Incidentally, I'll be interested to see this cabal of streamers.  Haven't seen anyone with a following playing the Tick in quite some time.  Maybe someone will find a configuration for the deck that can limp its way over 50% win rate so we actually have something to talk about here.

Well Feno, NoHands, & Kibler were all playing it today to name a few. Do they have big enough followings for you? It's pretty standard for the status quo to want to play what they see streamers play. Surely, you aren't debating that. 

You're also still stuck on the win rate argument. I'm not really sure what the decks overall win rate has to do with the balance of one card in said deck, but I digress. I remember hearing similar arguments made way back when about The Caverns Below, which never had over a 50% win rate at any point, yet was still nerfed. Also, notice how I said lists were being optimized, didn't say anything about it having a great win rate, so you're arguing a non issue here. 

Others in this thread have already made it clear how much they dislike playing against this card. All I'm saying is they might start encountering it more, since more folks with visibility have been experimenting with the deck. 

For everyone who still considers Tickatus a fringe card, brace yourselves. Apparently, a good number of streamers are trying to optimize this control warlock deck now & you can expect all the rank & file followers to flock to it. 

I think standard is a lot more fun to play when highlander decks are viable. However, I don't expect there to be any highlander cards in this next set. I would guess that once rotation hits, Blizzard will want people to explore new options for awhile & then perhaps bring back highlander cards in a later expansion, like they did with Uldum. 

As someone who has played HL Mage for almost two years, seeing Reno the Relicoligist rotate is going to be rather painful for me. 

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a viable tech card to really make a difference in this matchup. As of right now, this deck essentially has green matchups across the board. We'll just have to wait & see how the meta responds to it. I've had success with HL Mage, however, it's a very draw dependant matchup. 

The issue is crabrider. That one card essentially carries the deck & they don't die to Waste Warden due to having 4 health. Early Nozdormu into Tip The Scales is usually GG, solely due to crabriders clearing your entire board & forcing you to have an immediate answer or simply die on the following turn. 

Quote from knolty >>

I just finished a game where I was a turn away from winning when my opponent dropped a douple nitroskill potion on his 1 mana stealth minion for lethal together with his last weapon charge...

Yeah, spending 2 mana should never give you the possibility to deal 8 damage, especially in rogue. Fireball in mage deals 6 for 4 mana, and that feels like cheating, because of discounts and whatnot. 

NITROSKILL POTION NEEDS TO BE 2 MANA EACH. That's all for now.

I forgot to mention this happened at silver 3 standard, don't even want to imagine what goes on in diamond.

"Nitro skill" poison is hilarious!

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Community : "is there a reason to play 4+ mana cards hurrr durrr aggro op"

Game : Ramp paladin is a tier 1 deck

 You could have easily brought the deck to my attention but not only you ignored to read my post you had to be rude about your writing your reply.

 And the account was made today, for their first post, to do that.

Aren't people just amazing?

 

 I've been on hearthpwn for almost a decade, this account is fresh because I just merged it with blizzard account and that made me a new profile on hearthpwn somehow.

Aren't people's assumptions just amazing ?

 

Pardon my assumption. Your post did come off a bit rude, so I was just being sarcastic about it.

I appreciate your following post, though. Very thoughtful, and you make a lot of good points.

Realistically, there is a reason why people call high cost cards "greedy" and the design of the game definitely pushes everyone toward aggro-centric gameplay. It's unfortunate, because not everyone likes that style of play.

Personally, I've come to just accept that losing to a face hunter (or other, similar aggressive deck) is just going to happen once in a while and there is nothing you can do about it. Even if you jam a ton of defensive cards in your deck, you may still not draw what you need at the right moment. Such is Hearthstone.

But I can't help but be sad that some cards just feel too slow for most decks, unless they have a specific combo. Keymaster Alabaster seemed very cool to me when he was first shown off, but in standard there isn't much for him to do. I know there's some wild combos where he can do some cool stuff, but still in the realm of memery, I suppose.

Anyway, on another note... currently, my win rate with my highlander mage deck is 59%, with 29% of matches against paladin... and basically all of them seem to running some form of the new ramp paladin stuff. So if this keeps up, maybe there IS a reason to put high cost cards into your deck.

The paladin is going to give you 10 mana, so you better be ready to use it.

 I'm curious to see how your HL mage looks, if you don't mind sharing the list. I've played HL mage exclusively since Uldum released & I don't really see too many others playing it on ladder nowadays. 

I always find it interesting to see how others have altered their lists to adapt to the current meta.