Hearthpwn

I like your changes my secret brother) 

I have also take out  Desperate Measures . It feels very bad card most of the time. 

I really like how Noble Sacrifice works together with  Autodefense Matrix living the original attacked minions with a Divine Shield and it is really good against aggro decks thats why i am running 2 copies of it. But i agree with that it is up to everyone to choose what secrets to put in and i dont think that the difference will be so noticable. As you said the right timing is crusial about playing secrets.

Cristology will be buffed in 1 mana card and i think 1 copy of it will be very strong in this deck. Imagine drawing turn 1 your 2 Secret Keepers for 1 mana. The game is over )

To be honest Shudderwock is the real problem. It was a really problematic card even from Witchwood.

If anything deserves nerf to oblivion it's this card. But since Blizzard avoids nerfing expensive cards, yes the Shaman invokers will be more expensive and perhaps the rushers will be fewer.

This happened like 5 games to me after the update it seems Zephrys doesn't offer the best solution anymore at last game I was playing against quest shaman he played the galakrond summoned 4 storm guys I was holding zephrys for that moment entire game and I played it guess what it offered me? 

A fkn mind control tech, big game hunter and a weapon removal not a single board clear and I had 8 mana remaining I had to chose mind control tech and it steal his totem lol not even one of the storms. This kind of bullshit happened yesterday 2 times  and before that I cannot trust zephrys anymore. 

Blizzard probably doing this on purpose they are decreasing priority of most picked solutions to decrease viability of Zephrys and I am totally not okay with it. 

I posted this deck a couple of weeks ago without snipsnap... Got downvoted and disappeared...

Guess you have to have a name people know or be a streamer for your posts/decks to get any attention lol...how stupid.

(prolly gonna get downvoted again for opening my mouth..)

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This may be controversial but I actually think the reason why rogue struggles is because Gadgetzan Auctioneer exists. Looking at the classic set, it seems likely that Blizzard wanted rogue to be about lots of cheap spells that you could combo together into big swing turns. Compare the power level of rogue's classic and basic spells to pretty much any expansion in Standard. There's a HUGE drop in power for any cheap spells. I believe this is because they can't figure out a way to balance new good, cheap spells with Auctioneer so instead they print cheap niche cards like Doomerang, Jade Shuriken, and Journey Below

It seems like the design team has decided that as long as GA exists as a card, they can't build on rogue's classic set since any generally useful cheap spells will quickly become problematic. Further, draw engines have been hard to balance properly in Hearthstone. For both of those reasons, it wouldn't surprise me if the Hearthstone team decided to just exile the Auctioneer to Wild so they don't have to design around him anymore.

In the long run, that might be a good thing for rogue so the class can get cards that build on their basic and classic set strengths instead of being the Franken-class.

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Congratulations, what kind of deck did you play?

Why would you even dust a card that's worth 40 dust when it's still playable?

I tried hard with this deck but it is not very competitve in ranked. Cube hunter so fun to play though because of the different variations

UPDATE #1: Prior to the launch of today's patch, my Mean Streets of Gadgetzan collection had 15/20 legendaries from the set.  I was missing Krul, Genzo, Knuckles, Beardo, and Patches; although it is also worth noting that I disenchanted my golden Raza as soon as I logged into Hearthstone today, which effectively put my collection at 14/20 legendaries.  As a side note, a few days ago I purchased packs with gold until I hit my legendary pity timer until I received one, (Noggenfogger), so starting off today my Mean Streets pity timer was effectively 0.

After purchasing a 60 pack bundle of Gadgetzan packs moments ago: I received Genzo, a golden Knuckles, 2 copies of a golden Raza (from back to back packs amazingly enough), a regular copy of Raza, and 2 copies of Patches in that order; making sure to disenchant any copies of Raza and Patches as soon as I got them.  

UPDATE #2: After opening another batch of 120 cards following the first 60 pack bundle, I received Krul, a golden Patches, 2 Razas, 2 Patches, a golden Raza, and a Beardo in that order; which now puts me at my targeted goal of 18/20 legendaries collected.

In the 180 Mean Streets Packs that I opened while having 14/20 legendaries collected and a pity timer set at 0, I was able to get 4 "boring" legendaries (one of which being golden), 4 golden copies of either Patches/Raza, and 7 normal copies of either Patches/Raza.

I actually messed up by accidentally mousing over minor parts of my collection while searching for "new" cards in the search bar so I can't tell for sure what I was actually missing from my collection in terms of golden cards and epics; although this is not such a big deal since my intention was to just hit the mass disenchant button anyways so that I can keep anything that is not a duplicate.

RESULTS: By keeping whatever I didn't already have, my current mass disenchanting value is at 9645.  By disenchanting the 4 golden Patches/Raza, and 7 normal Patches/Raza, I was able to get 24000 dust.  On average, I was able to get 189 dust per pack from only disenchanting Patches/Raza and duplicates.  This average value would be much higher if I disenchanted every golden, epic, or legendary card that I had also gotten but decided to keep.  This average value would also be slightly higher if I disenchanted normal copies of cards that I already have copies of in golden.  Overall, I would estimate that the average pack that I opened during this session in the time of the nerf is worth ~240 dust per pack on the slightly higher end of the spectrum.  More than double the average ~106 dusting value from any standard pack you get and way higher than the low ball ~119 dust average that I worked out originally as a testament to this method's potential.

I will no longer be buying more packs with money in the nearby future, even when a new expansion comes out because now I can just craft whatever I want and not feel bad about it because my original low-ball math calculations worked out way better than I expected (as expected) and because I made a wise decision that would bolster a stronger collection in the most effective way possible.

But of course, this is all just a conspiracy/scam so that you can throw your money at Blizzard on old and outdated card packs because math never works out or makes sense whenever someone else does it and you can't do it yourself.  From the feedback that I have gotten below in the comment section over the past few days, I actually learned that the average pack you open at its absolute worst is worth 260 dust (40x4 from commons and 100x1 from the rare).  Obviously I played myself because opening Patches/Raza over and over again so that you can disenchant it for their original crafting value is vastly inferior to opening 4 commons and a rare.  260>240 ez maths according to Hearthpwn.

VERDICT: You guys are the voice of reason and are right about everything.  Now I'm broke and have absolutely nothing to show for it.  My math sucks and is completely wrong; I'm the idiot here and totally screwed myself on this one guys kappa. /s

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UPDATE #3: I bought some more packs, and in short lets just say that my numbers in my second update were slightly skewed and misguided.  Starting off buying packs, I didn't have a full collection of all the Gadgetzan legendaries and opened 4 of them along the way.  Although the majority of my legendaries pulled in my first batch of 180 packs opened were Patches/Raza, 4 of them were not; which actually makes a huge difference. 

Also I want to bring to attention that while opening a golden version of Patches/Raza is also a big deal and albeit rare, when you're just going to disenchant it anyways, a golden version is only as good as 2 copies of a regular version.  If you thought that my getting 4 golden Patches/Raza was a result of  godlike pack rng, just imagine that I opened 8 Patches/Raza in their place; which is reasonable at any pace while using this method.

The first time around, I stopped opening packs once I had 18/20 of the non Patches/Raza legendaries.  Using my own results, I would have to say that the average amount of dust per pack you get using this method while approaching 18/20 legendaries collected would be somewhere around 220-230 dust on average.  When you do happen to get the 18/20 non Patches/Raza legendaries however, which is the point in which you will only ever open Patches/Raza from your packs (the condition that I originally forecasted), the disenchanting value of each pack beyond this point is somewhere around 270-280 dust on average.  A little over 2.5x the ~106 dust disenchanting value of the average pack.

Cheers.  This exploit can only be done within the next 2 weeks before the nerf settles and the disenchanting values return to normal.

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In the entire history of Hearthstone (post beta), only 3 legendaries so far have been nerfed:  Leeroy Jenkins, Yogg-Saron, and The Caverns Below.  All of the mentioned cards were released and nerfed prior to the updated legendary system added last year in which starting with KotFT, once you open any one specific legendary card in a pack you will no longer be able to unpack it a second time resulting in a duplicate unless you already have one of every single legendary card from the expansion of the pack you are opening

With the upcoming patch, Patches and Raza will both be nerfed; however, the biggest impact these two cards will have will not be on the meta of the actual game, but rather on your card collection itself.  Why?  Because they are both legendary cards; but even more importantly, because they are both part of the Mean Streets of Gadgetzan expansion.

A common trick used nowadays by players that have a loaded collection and every single collectible legendary from a single expansion with the intention to open even more packs is to disenchant a regular version of a legendary in hopes of opening a golden version of it because you can just keep cycling back and forth between dusting a card, opening it again without fail, and continuing to do so until you get a golden copy.  This is all possible due to the fact that you can now target specific legendaries to open once you already have all the legendaries, something you couldn't do before in the entire history of Hearthstone until KotFT came out.

Step 1: Obtain a full collection of Mean Streets of Gadgetzan (at least all of the legendaries if not 2 copies of every epic).

Step 2: Disenchant Patches and Raza during the nerf period in which dusting them will result in a full dust refund.

Step 3: Open Mean Streets of Gadgetzan Packs and continue to unpack both Patches and Raza.

Step 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 

Assuming at worst that every pack you open during this process you get 40 dust per pack with the exception of getting either Patches or Raza as your legendary every 20 packs on average in which you would receive 1620 dust, you're looking at a minimum average of 119 dust per pack at the absolute worst pack rng.  Not factoring in the potential multiple rares, epics, golden cards, and even the reasonable frequency of possibly getting a golden Patches or Raza, you will be able get a ludicrous amount of dust through this process.

Obviously no exploit or opportunity like this has ever been seen before in Hearthstone, and obviously no other dust refund extravaganza for nerfed cards has ever been able to even come close to the potential of the upcoming nerfs; but what does this truly all mean?

Is it a wise choice to get a fully loaded Gadgetzan collection when the set is going to rotate out in less than 2 months?  Absolutely not if you only play standard and think that you will get bored of these cards in wild, but here is the kick that is going to blow your mind.  If you take this opportunity and go crazy opening Gadgetzan packs, you will never have to buy additional or new packs ever again beyond this period.  Also worth mentioning that you will have 100% control over what cards you "open" in the future.  Yes, this is 100% real and legit.  Disenchanting nerfed cards has always been good in the sense that you could trade in this outdated card for another card of your choice of the same quality at a 1:1 value.  Speaking of value, nothing has ever been more valuable than what is about to come.  Say for example each time you open Patches or Raza during this time; it is the equivalent of receiving 4 epics or 1 legendary of your choice at a 1:1 exchange ratio when you eventually cash in on all of your dust in the nearby future.

It might not be so exciting to open Patches and Raza over and over again, but want to know what is?  Knowing that you can control the rng of future packs that you're going to open by not opening them at all.  If you take advantage of this exploit, you can use the fully refunded dust from the 2 Gadgetzan legendaries and essentially trade it in for all of the good stuff in future expansions.  The best part?  You will no longer open all the trash pack fillers and have to deal with completely useless epics and legendaries that are a package deal along with bad and natural pack opening rng.  Even just getting Patches or Raza 6 or 7 times during this period will essentially guarantee you to receive all of the 10 or so meta defining epics and legendaries of the next expansion and completely ignore the rest of the set that won't see any play, with a ludicrous amount of dust to spare from the cards that are not these 2 legendaries.

So who has their wallet ready?

tbh I'm looking for a replacement, I dusted mine