Hearthpwn

well if you're using barnes that means you don't want basic cards with no on board effects. And if you are trying to combo with barnes then having this card in your deck is worse. Then copying Barnes means that there is still a barnes in your deck that you can pull with the barnes you copy for nothing but a basic 1/1.

I honestly think warsong commander needed to be nerfed to make it so blizzard could have more design space anyways. It was just way to constricting on cards that generate tokens but can't be good because they have to play around the combos the cards can have with the commander

Mill Warlock? lol

Master Swordsmith approves

yea and this would be a class card and be slightly better than magma rager. Like the joke goes.

3 mana 5/1 same effect is what you meant to say

Guys we need to consider something new as we continue. What will the next 0 mana 1/1 infinite value card be? We have Vanilla, Murloc, and now Beast. We will have the ability to see Demon, Dragon, Elemental, Mech, Pirate, and Totem.

My guess is towards Elemental. Just a cute little elemental called Tiny Rager.

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Combo with envenom and you have a 6-mana assassinate that summons a 2-3 and gives you a 3-1 weapon. Massive tempo swing 

The thing I just love is the fact that this card will be 1st place in the meta defining spot for hearthpwns expansion report that they do

yea I found my mistake on the other post I made about this and edited that. however you calculation seems correct and I also did a new one on just 1 patron and that one seems to infinite loop also. (along with any 1 health and 2 health mionions)

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3/1 3/2 3/3 all patron then defile (3/1 doesn't have to be and only a 1 health minion)
3/1 3/2 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/2 3/3 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/1 3/1 3/2
3/1 3/3
3/2 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/3
restart

 

Um if my calculation and rules of patron plus whirlwind effects is correct this is an infinite. please someone show me where I went wrong

I think you have error in your calculations.....4 3/2 patrons from 3 3/3 patrons doesnt seem right....

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3/1 3/2 3/3 all patron then defile (3/1 doesn't have to be and only a 1 health minion)
3/1 3/2 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/2 3/3 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/1 3/1 3/2
3/1 3/3
3/2 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/3
restart

 

Um if my calculation and rules of patron plus whirlwind effects is correct this is an infinite. please someone show me where I went wrong

 If I remember correctly the patrons will stop spawning new patrons when the board is full as the patrons killed by this don't actually leave the board until the effect is complete.  At which point they won't be able to spawn new patrons.  When this happens the effect will go until everything is dead, at which point it will stop.  All patrons die (that is why the effect stopped after all) and then bam, no more patrons.

Though I could be wrong, as the text reads "cast again" which means each instance of 1 damage COULD be an effect that happens then ends, at which points patrons will clear, new patrons will spawn, then the next instance of 1 damage happens.

What a single patron plus defile makes with a 1 health and 2 health minion on board
The numbers will signify the amount by 1X 2X 3X with another next to it signifying the amount of patrons at that health amount 3X 2 means 3 patrons at 2 health

0X 1, 0X 2, 1X 3
0X 1, 1X 2, 1X 3
1X 1, 1X 2, 2X 3
1X 1, 2X 2, 3X 3
2X 1, 3X 2, 1X 3 - patron rule of not being able to spawn more if board is filled even if some died by aoe
3X 1, 1X 2, 1X 3
1X 1, 1X 2, 2X 3 - infinite starts here shown as being same as round 3
1X 1, 2X 2, 3X 3
2X 1, 3X 2, 1X 3
3X 1, 1X 2, 1X 3

Someone find my mistake please but all I'm seeing is infinite right now

3/1 3/2 3/3 all patron then defile (3/1 doesn't have to be and only a 1 health minion)
3/1 3/2 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/2 3/3 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/1 3/1 3/2
3/1 3/3
3/2 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/3 3/3
restart

Um if my calculation and rules of patron plus whirlwind effects is correct this is an infinite. please someone show me where I went wrong

edit: I found my mistake however it still ends very bad on your side and doesn't work well. I will look at what a single 3/3 patron produces with a 1 health and two health minion on board makes and see how well this can work

Better look:

3/1 3/2 3/3 all patron then defile (3/1 doesn't have to be and only a 1 health minion)
3/1 3/2 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/2 3/3 3/3 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/2 3/3
3/1 3/1 3/1 3/1 3/2
3/1 3/3
3/2 3/3
3/1 3/2 3/3
restart

Um if my calculation and rules of patron plus whirlwind effects is correct this is an infinite