• 0

    posted a message on Wait, people GENUINELY think the game is rigged?

    Matchmaking is rigged.

    Posted in: General Discussion
  • 1

    posted a message on Wait, people GENUINELY think the game is rigged?
    Quote from ScrotieMcB >>
    Quote from HighDef2021 >>
    Quote from FortyDust >>

    All the conspiracy theorists really have is anecdotal evidence that amounts to "I have trouble ranking up because I'm bad at the game and don't know it."

    It's impossible to be bad at Hearthstone because the game pretty much plays itself. The fanboys keep this delusion that there is some skill required outside of basic math and reading.

     Ah, this. Again.

    I know that Mark Rosewater (of Magic the Gathering) described his the psychographics slightly differently, but the way I see it, the three core types of game players are:

    Timmy, who just wants a cool story out of the game. Basically, his purpose of playing is to be in a Trolden video.

    Spike, who takes piloting seriously, and would very much disagree with your claim here.

    And lastly, Johnny, who doesn't play the game so much as play the meta. For example, trying to make his own viable deck without copying the netdecks. Of course, because this is very difficult and some Johnnies have some realism, not all Johnnies try this this, but their unifying feature is that they want to beat the game in the deck builder before the match even begins.

    Because Johnnies don't believe that piloting is important — at least not compared to deck selection — they have a lot of delusions about what they're doing while piloting, and about the game in general. From a perspective of a Spike, Johnnie might spend almost no time actually playing a game, despite spending hours on it — to apply the concept of Johnnies to ARPGs like Diablo, if you've meticulously planned out more builds than you've actually beaten the game with, your Johnny is showing. (Incidentally, Spikes can sometimes look at Timmies similarly, as some of them spend a lot of time watching Hearthstone games on YouTube or Twitch for the pogginess instead of playing themselves.) This kind of play without playing is where these delusions come from, and is why Rosewater described Johnnies so poorly (being one himself). Very few Johnnies are honest with themselves about how they see the game, yet simultaneously they make up most of the community.

    And the most militant of this last group want to tell themselves that there is no such thing as piloting skill, because their bias towards the importance of deck selection is so great that they don't want to admit there is any further experience they're missing out on.

    Well, here's the truth about piloting: sometimes, hidden opportunities arise to show your 200 IQ skill, and sometimes the plays are obvious and there's nothing you can do. The gameplay experience isn't consistently one nor the other. Sometimes Johnny is right, but sometimes Spike is right, too.

    The people who are consistently on top are constantly on top because they turn around some single digit percentage of games that "normal" players would lose. I happen to know this better than most because I've played LOTS of games of Magic the Gathering with a former US national champion, and at some point playing in person I could finally see he was on another level, something I couldn't fully understand until he (somewhat begrudgingly) broke it down for me — and even then, he thought out in seconds what would take me minutes. That said, for all this mental superiority over me, it basically meant matchups I had a 55% chance to win, he had 60%.

    Ultimately, when you're talking about a lot of mental effort to crank out a relatively small reward, what happens is that players only go through the effort if they enjoy the effort in and of itself. If you're the sort of person who would pause a YouTube video with a "find the lethal" puzzle rather than just reveal the solution, for the fun of working it out yourself. And not everyone is that (that's why the delay in those videos is so brief) and that's okay actually.

    It's okay to like playing the meta and hate piloting. I'm not trying to say being a Johnny is invalid; I'm just saying it can be tough being honest with yourself about what you're actually doing. If you are honest with yourself, that's cool.

    But it's hilariously sour grapes delusional of you to pretend piloting skill doesn't exist.

    You like to hear yourself talk, I see.

    Me play Paladin quest. Me play 1 cost cards. Me achieve quest. Piloting skill supreme right there.

    A dead monkey could play this game and you typing a long-winded post doesn't change that fact.

    Posted in: General Discussion
  • 0

    posted a message on Wait, people GENUINELY think the game is rigged?
    Quote from FortyDust >>

    Love how the tinfoil hat-wearers selectively refute the arguments they think they have answers to, but they consistently fail to address the ironclad ones, such as:

    • Computing power and programming time required to do this would be so expensive that Blizzard would never recoup the investment.
    • Blizzard has tried and true psychological gimmicks at their disposal that can do the same task far more efficiently.
    • Blizzard has far more to lose than to gain if they cheat like this and get caught (and they WOULD get caught).

    All the conspiracy theorists really have is anecdotal evidence that amounts to "I have trouble ranking up because I'm bad at the game and don't know it."

    It's impossible to be bad at Hearthstone because the game pretty much plays itself. The fanboys keep this delusion that there is some skill required outside of basic math and reading. Please tell me how to outplay decks that give you no chance to counter. I would love to hear your input.

    Also, didn't ZTG prove that there is a system in place where the board state can be read? How much computing power would that take?

    I don't think the matches themselves are rigged however. But I believe the matchmaking is. I've been playing long enough. You Knights of Hearthstone want actual proof when you know it's impossible to deliver on that promise. I mean how exactly do we obtain such a thing outside of anecdotal evidence? Send an email to Blizzard asking for their algorithms?

    Posted in: General Discussion
  • 1

    posted a message on Wild is broken beyond belief

    I have been playing this thing on and off for years and I have never seen Wild as busted as it is right now. Odd Quest Hunter is the most oppressive deck I have ever seen. Unless you can constantly heal the only way to out aggro it and even then you lose most of the time.

    Not only that but the questline decks in general have taken over and there is little room for anything else. Good game, Blizzard.

    You think they will balance this?

    Posted in: Wild Format
  • To post a comment, please login or register a new account.