So... for only 2 mana my opponent destroy a card in my deck... Yes it's random, but:
- A card "destroy your opponent Tirion Fordring / Sindragosa / Frost Lich Jaina / Kalimos, Primal Lord... your opponent can't play it, no Deathrattle, no Battlecry. It's a core card of the deck? Oh sad, sad. Oh, it's for 2 mana. And a body 2/3."
You think counter a Tirion Fordring or a Sylvanas Windrunner with a Hex is very strong? This do the same, but for 2 mana, and add a perfect T2 body. A disable Battlecries. Even the random effect still let this card broken.
BRO-KEN.
I am going to keep this quote for posterity's sake so that I can beat people over the head with it in three weeks when NO ONE plays this card.
Personally I think this is one of the strongest cards ever printed. Even if it whiffs on removing one of your opponents key cards or win conditions it's still going to get rid of a card they specifically put into their deck in order to achieve that condition. Twice if running two. At 2 mana and a 2/3 body which can be played on tempo.
No need to have to use additional removal or trade as you might with Dirty Rat or Deathlord. The card is simply gone. Can remove not only minions but spells and weapons etc as well. Usually you try to mulligan for cards you can play in the first few turns, shuffling your bigger cards back into your deck. This played against you T2 or coin T1 is usually going to have a better chance of going after your later round cards.
I'm just not seeing a downside to this at 2 mana with a 2/3 body. At best it destroys your opponents win condition. At worst it destroys a card they put in their deck in order to get to achieve getting to their win condition. That's crazy good imo.
The perceived upside which you imply here is illusory in nature. I think this is why so many people overrate this card: they can SEE how it helps when it burns a key card, but when it burns a less-useful card and therefore improves their draw, it is something far more difficult to conceptualize. Trust me and anyone else who has seen mill cards like this in other games: it's statistically a vanilla 2 Mana 2/3 outside of dedicated mill decks.
Gnomish Vampire will not see play unless it somehow become part of a broken combo. In a vacuum that card is literally no better or worse then a Crocalisk over the course of several hundred games (which is the only way to rate variance like this).
i like the card, but remove, not a fan of that. would have been so much better if the top card became the last card, imo.
90%+ of the time you can pretend that it does read that, to no ill effect. Please, anyone who looks at this card and sees more than 100 dust: please just go and ask one of your MTG friends how good of an idea it is to run a single mill card in a non-mill deck (this theoretical Warlock mill deck will not work for obvious reason). I am honestly taken aback to see the entire community rejoicing over a Warlock-only Crocalisk.
This must legitimately be the most overhyped card (relative to how good it is) that I have ever seen. This is NOT some new and therefore unquantifiable effect. We have decades of proof from MTG that, if the game does not go to fatigue, then statistically this card has had ZERO actual impact on the matchup. ALL that it provides is the illusion that it's working when it Mills a high-value card that might as well have been on the bottom of their deck. Seriously think of this: if the text read "Your opponent places the top card of their deck onto the bottom of their deck." Would YOU still think it was as strong? Because 99% of the time: this does the same thing in effect.
I like the idea, but I don't think that you can reasonably fit both a Murlocs package and this new stuff together. A lack of spells makes it look impossible to fight back for board if you ever lose it.
Arguably has the least garbage drawback of the three, but even in a deck that ALREADY somehow avoids 4-drops, is a 4 Mana 4/4 with taunt and Lifesteal even playable without a drawback? My gut says not remotely.
2/2 bonus isn't worth the loss of card value, even as warlock, plus the 3/3 is still really easy to kill
It's a potentially decent card in Wild Zoolock with eggs. That's where I'm assuming the positive votes are coming from. In Standard it's trash without another Nerubian Egg quality card.
He might be right. Unless you get more Lifesteal support, even Paladin cannot consistently use it as it is only good when it gets ALL of the first three abilities. Even both Divine Shield and Taunt it is a worse Senjin. Card might see play, but not with the cards revealed so far.
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Gnomish Vampire will not see play unless it somehow become part of a broken combo. In a vacuum that card is literally no better or worse then a Crocalisk over the course of several hundred games (which is the only way to rate variance like this).
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This must legitimately be the most overhyped card (relative to how good it is) that I have ever seen. This is NOT some new and therefore unquantifiable effect. We have decades of proof from MTG that, if the game does not go to fatigue, then statistically this card has had ZERO actual impact on the matchup. ALL that it provides is the illusion that it's working when it Mills a high-value card that might as well have been on the bottom of their deck. Seriously think of this: if the text read "Your opponent places the top card of their deck onto the bottom of their deck." Would YOU still think it was as strong? Because 99% of the time: this does the same thing in effect.
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I like the idea, but I don't think that you can reasonably fit both a Murlocs package and this new stuff together. A lack of spells makes it look impossible to fight back for board if you ever lose it.
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Arguably has the least garbage drawback of the three, but even in a deck that ALREADY somehow avoids 4-drops, is a 4 Mana 4/4 with taunt and Lifesteal even playable without a drawback? My gut says not remotely.
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Easily the most interesting (and probably strongest in a vacuum) card yet revealed this expansion. Definitely Maelstrom Portal level.
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Presumably something similar to Druid of the Claw where it is essentially treated as a text-less minion.