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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Revealed - Gnomeferatu
    Quote from Dominatrix >>

    So... for only 2 mana my opponent destroy a card in my deck... Yes it's random, but:

    - A card "destroy your opponent Tirion FordringSindragosaFrost Lich JainaKalimos, Primal Lord... your opponent can't play it, no Deathrattle, no Battlecry. It's a core card of the deck? Oh sad, sad. Oh, it's for 2 mana. And a body 2/3."

    You think counter a Tirion Fordring or a Sylvanas Windrunner with a Hex is very strong? This do the same, but for 2 mana, and add a perfect T2 body. A disable Battlecries. Even the random effect still let this card broken.

    BRO-KEN.

     I am going to keep this quote for posterity's sake so that I can beat people over the head with it in three weeks when NO ONE plays this card.
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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Revealed - Gnomeferatu
    Quote from yakuzajones >>

    Personally I think this is one of the strongest cards ever printed. Even if it whiffs on removing one of your opponents key cards or win conditions it's still going to get rid of a card they specifically put into their deck in order to achieve that condition. Twice if running two. At 2 mana and a 2/3 body which can be played on tempo.

    No need to have to use additional removal or trade as you might with Dirty Rat or Deathlord. The card is simply gone. Can remove not only minions but spells and weapons etc as well. Usually you try to mulligan for cards you can play in the first few turns, shuffling your bigger cards back into your deck. This played against you T2 or coin T1 is usually going to have a better chance of going after your later round cards.

    I'm just not seeing a downside to this at 2 mana with a 2/3 body. At best it destroys your opponents win condition. At worst it destroys a card they put in their deck in order to get to achieve getting to their win condition. That's crazy good imo.

     

     The perceived upside which you imply here is illusory in nature. I think this is why so many people overrate this card: they can SEE how it helps when it burns a key card, but when it burns a less-useful card and therefore improves their draw, it is something far more difficult to conceptualize. Trust me and anyone else who has seen mill cards like this in other games: it's statistically a vanilla 2 Mana 2/3 outside of dedicated mill decks. 
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    posted a message on Must have cards that can fit in all their class' decks

    Gnomish Vampire will not see play unless it somehow become part of a broken combo. In a vacuum that card is literally no better or worse then a Crocalisk over the course of several hundred games (which is the only way to rate variance like this).

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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Revealed - Gnomeferatu
    Quote from Robinhoodyy >>

    i like the card, but remove, not a fan of that.
    would have been so much better if the top card became the last card, imo. 

     90%+ of the time you can pretend that it does read that, to no ill effect. Please, anyone who looks at this card and sees more than 100 dust: please just go and ask one of your MTG friends how good of an idea it is to run a single mill card in a non-mill deck (this theoretical Warlock mill deck will not work for obvious reason). I am honestly taken aback to see the entire community rejoicing over a Warlock-only Crocalisk.
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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Revealed - Gnomeferatu

    This must legitimately be the most overhyped card (relative to how good it is) that I have ever seen. This is NOT some new and therefore unquantifiable effect. We have decades of proof from MTG that, if the game does not go to fatigue, then statistically this card has had ZERO actual impact on the matchup. ALL that it provides is the illusion that it's working when it Mills a high-value card that might as well have been on the bottom of their deck. Seriously think of this: if the text read "Your opponent places the top card of their deck onto the bottom of their deck." Would YOU still think it was as strong? Because 99% of the time: this does the same thing in effect. 

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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Revealed - Gnomeferatu
    Quote from FrostyFeetEU >>

    I still hope it turns out to be fake somehow, I hate it. I don't want cards that meddle with your opponent's strategy so hard.

     Fret not, we can judge it's power level by the mill cards in MTG. This card is hot and spicy garbage that will never see play past rank 20 on ladder.
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    posted a message on New Paladin Theorycraft

    I like the idea, but I don't think that you can reasonably fit both a Murlocs package and this new stuff together. A lack of spells makes it look impossible to fight back for board if you ever lose it.

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    posted a message on Bad Legendaries Rant (KoFT)
    Quote from Dragonborne >>

    There will probably be a CRAZY legendary with a battlecry "If you have all princes in your deck...."

     Oh god, I just got the image of the design team giving that ability to the Lich King...
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    posted a message on New Hero Card Reveal - Frost Lich Jaina
    Quote from Indomitos >>

    Omg that heropower wins you the lategame against everything LMAO 

     Except is doesn't. I imagine any Frost Lich deck would have something approaching a 0% wr against Jade or even CW. 
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    posted a message on New Legendary Card Reveal - Prince Valanar

    Arguably has the least garbage drawback of the three, but even in a deck that ALREADY somehow avoids 4-drops, is a 4 Mana 4/4 with taunt and Lifesteal even playable without a drawback? My gut says not remotely.

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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Reveal - Defile

    Easily the most interesting (and probably strongest in a vacuum) card yet revealed this expansion. Definitely Maelstrom Portal level.

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    posted a message on New Warlock Card Reveal - Sanguine Reveler
    Quote from Sc0rPiO >>

    2/2 bonus isn't worth the loss of card value, even as warlock, plus the 3/3 is still really easy to kill

     It's a potentially decent card in Wild Zoolock with eggs. That's where I'm assuming the positive votes are coming from. In Standard it's trash without another Nerubian Egg quality card. 
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    posted a message on New Paladin Card Reveal - Howling Commander
    Quote from moonsorrow999 >>

    But Stonehill Defender draws Tirion for you.... an extra Tirion even!

     In all seriousness, you will probably NEVER run this card over Stonehill and I'm shocked that people don't get that.
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    posted a message on New Card Reveal - Corpsetaker
    Quote from AnwarC >>

    Firebat says this card is no good LUL

     He might be right. Unless you get more Lifesteal support, even Paladin cannot consistently use it as it is only good when it gets ALL of the first three abilities. Even both Divine Shield and Taunt it is a worse Senjin. Card might see play, but not with the cards revealed so far.
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    posted a message on What happens when you summon (not play) a Fatespinner?

    Presumably something similar to Druid of the Claw where it is essentially treated as a text-less minion.

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