Quote from Ilyanthiel >>Finally a nerf thread that is not only motivated by rage of losing.
Thanks Slyde.
In addition, your point is very good. DH is the only class where aggro decks do not run out of steam so even if you can stop their initial aggro without taking too much damage, they'll come back at you quite easily and you're the one to run out of steam. The reason for that is the card draw cards (and their number) they've been offered. Remember Divine Favor and why it's been HoFed? Here it's not one card it's an avalanche...
Every other card in DH draws at least 1 card. When an opponent can go t6 from empty hand to potentially drawing 7+ cards and put tempo on the board, Houston there's a problem.
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I think the point freddy tried to make isn't that netdecking is baaad, but that you shouldn't assume you will have a certain win percentage just because that deck has that percentage according to stats. There a factors like the learning curve, adapting metas, win-/lose-streaks etc.
The answer to OPs question is very likely one of the following:
1. You haven't quite understood/mastered the deck, that's why you lose games you are supposed to win.
2. You are just having bad luck. You queued into way more unfavorable match-ups than usually, just try again tomorrow.
3. The meta has adopted to all you little zoo-shits (pardon my french) and a lot of people are countering your deck specifically
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"The internet says i should win 60% with this deck but i don't, help!"
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Yes sure lich king is a great card on it's own, taunt is definitely a plus and value-wise he is hard to beat, but from what i experienced the agents are better for pressuring your opponent, since it is harder for most classes to deal 5 dmg aoe than clearing one big minion. Plus you put 12dmg on the board instead of 8, so the immediate threat is higher. Overall i think lich king is still the better card, but in certain situations the agents can seal the deal. Plus it is always fun to experiment with new cards :)
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I use them in my controllock and i have to agree, they are doing a pretty good Job! Also it seems as lock is the only class with viable control-decks right now, since it's the only class that can beat all those combo-decks AND aggro. Tried control-warrior, got destroyed by so many mecha'thuns, so i switched to warlock and let me tell you, my opponent conceiding after i transformed his mecha'thun/malygos/pork into some random demon makes me sooooo happy!
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I don't get why you all even reply to posts like these...
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Sooo, Reno-Decks are forbidden in casual? I don't see the problem, it seems whatever people face in casual they complain (if they lose). You dont even have to win, just play 20 cards ,reno mage should be perfect for this as games usually take forever. Why so salty man?
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I enjoy long games because that usually means that something unexpected or at least unusual happens.
I had a roughly 15 min. game with bm-mage against quest-priest the other day. I knew it would be very hard to win against two amaras and benedictus, but tried anyway. In the end it he played 3 amaras (super greedy version with zola and banker) 4 psychic screams which led to him going earlier to fatigue than me besides bene and there must have been at least 6 lich kings played in this gamedue to stonehills and screams and deck copying. In the end he won because my scremed alana was buried under a bunch of 5/5 dragons and i didnt have a qay to.remove his second lich king.
There where many difficult decisions in this game, but it in the end it was decided by the fact that he could shadowvision a scream two times and that i didnt redraw alana until it was too late.
Was i salty that i lost? Hell no! That game was a lot fun and the fact that it was decided by luck in the end doesnt bother me at all, because which hearthstone game isnt? I dont understand why so many people complain about too much rng and not enough skill in this card game, when it has been like this for years. I am not saying there is no skill or decision making involved, i wouldnt play it if it was just "roll the dice", but in the end a crazy topdeck will aleays beat skillfull play, and that's fine for me.
If you cant handle that, go olay chess. Only skill, no luck. But be careful, you cant blame rngesus or brode when you keep losing in this game, it just means you are to dumb. So maybe stick to hearthstone ,feel like a freakin genius when you topdeck that stupid leeroy for the kill or mc tech there cubed hadronox and blame the rng when you lose ;)
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I enjoy the current meta an i dont understand why so many people hate on it. If there is one oopressive deck, every one is complaining about that obe deck and how stale the meta is because of it. Now we dont have one op-deck but instead almost every class has viable decks, so people cry "rock paper scissor" meta and call it stale also...
There are viable control-decks, aggro-decks and combo-drcks that keep each other in check. Plural for each! Of course you will still See the same decks if you play multiple hours every day. If you dont like that, maybe hearthstone is not the right game for you...
I climbed to rank 5 mainy using no-quest-odd-warrior and bm-mage, both with a positive win-rate (mage better though). I enjoyed the many different decks to play against and how almost all made the same mistakes. The only thing i would criticise is, that with rat and oracle both gone to wild the meta is missing good anti-combo-tools. But since there us no really good combo-deck outthere that remains a small problem for now, that will hopefully get fixed in the next expansion. (or just move dirty rat to classic and be done with it, d-rat ftw!)
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I reached legend for the first time (last month lol) by having someone auto-concede to me in my last match. I dont know why (s)he did it, but i was very dissappointed. It was the first time i pushed beyond rank 5 and it took me alot of time and nerves to get that far. When i was missing only one more star, i paused for a minute, focused and was ready for the final boss. When (s)he just instantly exploded and i reached legend, i was still happy of course, but it didnt feel as good. As mentioned above, i was dissappointed because i wanted to earn it and didnt want any gifts on my way there.
I absolutely cannot understand why you would want legend players to give you free wins, yet why you call them dicks for giving you reasons why they dont want to do it. You, good sir, seem to be the only one here who is behaving like a dick and should really think about why you are playing this game and why others play it.
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Goddammit wild Secret-Mage has got to be the stupidest fucking deck ever! Is there no way to counter that shit except playing an (almost) equally stupid paladin-aggro-fuck-deck? No matter how much armor and or taunt i put up, in 4 out of 5 cases they just melt my face without even slightly caring about what i do. Fuck em all to death!