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I guess some people would say casual is supposed to be for people to have fun with home-brew decks and you shouldn't be bringing tier 1 net decks there. It's a matter of opinion.

I'll add one potential pick: Northshire Cleric

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I literally built this deck at the end of december, played it on ladder for a day, and discarded it. It felt too clunky. Mismatching pieces feels awful.

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Minion (12) 1x Subject 9 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Bearshark 2x Crackling Razormaw 2x Dire Mole 2x Springpaw 1x Tundra Rhino	Ability (16) 2x Master's Call 1x Snake Trap 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 1x Venomstrike Trap 2x Wandering Monster 1x Snipe 2x Animal Companion 1x Explosive Trap 2x Freezing Trap 2x Kill Command	Playable Hero (2) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar 1x Zul'jin
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I don't know. I think it's still just really high-rolly

 Lot of people used deck like this to get to legend. So it is very powerful, just needs very careful play and a bit of luck to draw correct pieces. But it can snowball fast and win before slower decks can get their game plan going. Plus there's some late game play with Rexxar and Zul'jin. So it's not completely a one trick pony.

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What in the name of the flying fuck!!! Three matches i a row, my opponent plays Keleseth on turn 2. What a shit show this game can be. 

 At least only once. How about playing Keleseth twice on turn 2. That feels rough!

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Yeees, join the dark side! Feel the aggro, go face and get legend without any skill! :D

No for real: Sometimes I play control decks just for fun in unranked too, but I can't understand why somebody wants to ladder with such kind of decks. In my eyes this is just a waste of time and every loose feels way more painful. (Maybe this is the reason, why 98% of all whine threads are from control players...) Because of this I always ladder with Midrange or Aggro decks.

If you want to switch to faster decks, try to build a Midrange-Hunter first, because the only expensive card you need for that is the DK and the rest can be full basic, common and rare cards and you have a deck, which can bring you to legend. Beside this Hunter is the most flexible class at the moment, so you can switch more easily between different deck types (Egg Hunter, Spell Hunter...).  Or even try a Mech Hunter in Wild which can bring you to rank 10 and beyond with ease and could be build without any legendary card.

 I HATE HUNTERS. I will never join to dark side NEVEEEEEER.

 Come on, Dire Mole is so cute. Most beasts in midrange hunter look cute.

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Hunter ability 320443982042 that needs a nerf- candleshot plus hunters mark. Unconditional remove any minion for 2 mana? No face damage? Naturalize is one mana but draws your opponent two cards... is anything else close to as broken in terms of hyper efficient removal? that plus deadly shot for 3 mana, so fucking dumb. For comparison, hex and poly are 4 mana, and they are the best other removals in the game. 

 I don't want to defend Hunters, but Candleshot + Hunter's Mark combo would be a problem only if both cards were in the Classic set: in fact, if they were, I'm sure Blizzard would have already given them a proper mana cost (same thing for Equality + Consecration, which always cleans the board, but it costs quite a lot). For what concerns Deadly Shot, I think that the 3 mana cost instead of 4 is due to the RNG factor involved (while with Hex and Polymorph there's no RNG).

I know this is the salt thread and you don't come here to receive explanations or to discuss, but I felt it was good to express my opinion (please don't slaughter me lol)

P.S.: Spellbender new meta breaker Kappa

 My original post was about the mana cost. I don't see why whether they are part of the classic set or not has any bearing on that. As long as it's under-costed it will remain a problem in standard until the rotation, and then in wild forever.

I don't see equality consecrate as a good comparison. Different class, different mana cost, different effects.

My point about deadly shot, which you could argue is fair at 3 mana, is that it's cheaper than other similar removals. Which makes it more absurd give hunters an additional way (huntersmark +deadly shot) to remove any minion for even less mana and with no rng.

Honestly, to be fair for the effect, you could increase both candleshot and hunter's mark by one mana.

 They are completely fair. It's one minion removal on which you have to spend 2 cards. That's a lot of resources. Equality example you gave clears the entire board. That is much more powerful than candleshot. With candleshot plus hunter's mark you have to give 4 slots in your deck away to be able to kill 2 big minions during the course of a game (if you draw all 4 cards and hunter has no card draw, remember). That's not that strong. Other classes have much better removal such as Priest or Rogue.

Hearthstone > paper Magic > everything else.

Finally my first golden hero!

The problem with refunds is where do you stop. Should they also refund Captain Greenskin? What about Grumble which was only playable in combo Shudderwock decks? I crafted Grumble so according to this logic I should get 1600 dust. No matter what they do they will piss off some people, that's with every nerf and balance change.

I haven't been following the Artifact fiasco. What happened? The game was a disappointment? 

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You're confusing relative strength with absolute strength.  Because something else is stronger does not make the thing weaker.  

 Deathstalker Rexxar was weak all of 2017.

It only was strong after

Pirate warrior rotated

Kazakus Priest Warlock, and Mage rotated

Murloc Paladin rotated

Jade decks rotated

Cubelock got nerfed

Odd Paladin got nerfed

Even Paladin got nerfed

All 7+ Druid decks got nerfed

Shudderwock Shaman got nerfed

Quest Rogue was nerfed again

Kingsbane Rogue got nerfed

Deathstalker Rexxar's absolute strength isn't that high. It's that most of the other decks rotated or were nerfed and dropped under it.

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 Big Priest in Wild?  Who really cares?  Whining about a deck that has 1 win condition is pretty bad.  Sure Turn 3-4 is a high roll but there are plenty of counters.  Then it's game over for them.  If you had to mulligan for 1 card to beat a whole deck then that deck is not too concerning.  

Besides it's wild.  You have cards like Devolve and Dirty Rat.  LOL. 

 How on earth is Dirty Rat a counter to Big Priest? To pull his Lich King on turn 2? Your game plan is really "next level"! O.O

It seems like for most people the issue here is how Barnes is used in Big Priest.  So as I've stated on these topics before, if Barnes is to be nerfed he should summon a 1/1 "Actor" token and grants the Actor the card text of a minion in your deck.  Barnes's text could read something like:

"Battlecry: Summon a 1/1
Actor and give it the
Effect of a minion
in your deck."

So it's basically the same idea BUT it actually falls more in line with the flavor of the card since you are summoning an Actor that is "playing the role of [Insert Minion Here]".  AND when used in Big Priest, it weakens your resurrection pool because the Actor would be come back as a simple 1/1 with no text, since the text (or "role") the Actor token is given comes from Barnes's battlecry.

You'd still have issues like Spell Hunter using Barnes into 1/1 Actor "Y'shaarj" into actual Y'shaarj.  But again, if the main concern is Big Priest, my suggestion would help lower the power level of that deck while also enhancing the card's overall flavor.

Fave was boomsday, BUT BOTH WW AND RASTAKHAN SUCKED SO BAD! Baku and genn were the two worst abominations ever

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Are we talking about nerf patch?

Because now Hunter is still MORE popular than it was pre-nerf, https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-114/ 

Despite the meta adapting to counter it.

If it's not the nerf patch, why should a non-nerf patch change much about the meta?

 Click on the daily graph and look at the per day listing.  Hunter started it's rise up before the nerfs were even announced.  Since the nerfs, they've been on a slow but steady decline.  Meanwhile priest is nearly as common as hunter.