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Honestly I find these meta lists a little 2 dimensional. They don't take into consideration that some of the lower tier decks hard counter some of the higher tier ones. For example, for Reno Priest Even Shaman was almost an automatic win for me. Odd Rogue wasn't too bad either.

The term "automatic win" is suspicious.  Even Shaman has two 4-mana 7/7's, two Totemcarvers (which will usually be big), two (effectively) zero-mana 5/5's, and two giants.  How does Reno Priest with its one copy of SWD kill all these bigs, and "win automatically".  Maybe if the Even Shaman over commits, but if it is played correctly, Even Shaman has plenty of winning chances.

 Reno Priest can clear your board every second turn for a long time until you run out of steam and then they start playing their big stuff. There's so much good board clears available in wild, don't underestimate their ability to just keep killing your board over and over again.

I agree. Playing around rank 1-5 mostly every month and there is about 50-60% chance to be matched against OTK deck currently. It is definitely a problem in my case but not sure it can be addressed. Blizzard just printed too many retarded cards that enable solitaire decks that ignore the opponent and just cycle and heal until otk turn.

Druid or Warlock are the best.

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I don't think there's a way of nerfing Genn and Baku. They don't need it either, they're not dominating the meta alone, and they allow for more deckbuilding possibilities.

 I'd be willing to bet money on Genn/Baku being nerfed sometimes in 2019. Don't want to discuss if they need to be now, too tired for that (I think they definitely need change). Let's see what happens in 2019 but I am very certain Blizzard is already in the process of brainstorming different ideas of nerfing/modifying the odd/even mechanic.

Most favourite is Boomsday (I love mechs and I think there are several cools cards in the expansion). Witchwood is the least favourite because I think Genn/Baku are an issue and will eventually have to be nerfed anyways. Rastakhan is somewhere in the middle, not too bad, some good cards there (Mojomaster is the card I like the most) but it's not as good as I hoped for when I was waiting for the troll expansion.

Mechatun, Toggwaggle 

I feel you man, I was at rank 2 three stars and went on incredibly tilting losing streak back down to rank 4 zero stars. The grind is real. I suggest after losing 3 games or so take a break, maybe play some arena or wild. It's a bad idea to continue laddering after couple of losses when you are tilted.

It's very playable in wild also, renolock is one of the best decks at the moment and other variants of warlock are also decent. I would craft it since you can keep playing it in wild after rotation also.

My personal experience has been it's easier to climb at the beginning of season actually, couple days after ranks decay. It usually gets much harder in the middle of the month when everybody jumps in and starts playing net decks to climb the ladder so it becomes very difficult. By the end of the month, couple last days it is easier again as most people are already happy with their rank and are just messing around with meme decks. So I would recommend climbing ladder first/last 3/4 days of every month.

My prediction is, no more nerfs until new rotation (hunter is fine tbh, not very oppressive compared to what druid used to be). 1 week before new rotation lands they will hall of fame Gadgetzan Auctioneer and maybe couple other cards (Northshire Cleric maybe), they will also nerf Barnes to be 6 mana and probably also nerf Eternal Servitude.

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I am getting sick of solitaire-stone.   Priest with screams and spirit lashes keeping them alive until they can mindblast you to death, mechathun decks doing nothing but drawing cards until they win, paladins doing (relatively) nothing until they win with their OTKs...and then you have hunter, where there is at least stuff being put on the board, but if they get Rexxar and Zuljin, good luck.  The deck I'm playing is pretty favorable against hunter and isn't terrible against the OTK ones, but it's still mind-numbing.

Mechathun is the dumbest card ever printed.  I don't care that it's usually not good, it's just a stupid card.  A card with an effect like that shouldn't  be so easy to pull off.

 To be fair, Mecha'thun is very easily countered. Warlock mecha'thun can simply be countered by Saronite Taskmaster and priest mecha'thun can be countered by even King Mukla you just have to think.

But I agree that priest is annoying, it's unfortunate that we have to wait until april for priest to die.

 

 those cards are awful in every other matchup though.  I am not going to over-tech my deck to just beat mechathun.

 If you're not going to try to counter a deck, then you have no right to complain about said decks.

 He has a point though, anti aggro card usually are quite generic and work against all aggro so you can put them in your deck but you can't dedicate 2-3 slots in your deck specifically for every 3-4 OTK decks that are popular now, it's just not feasible. There needs to be a more generic disruption available.

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Frost Lich. Fucking. Jaina. 

One fucking card should not be able to turn a 30-6 game into a 0 - 30 game for fucks sakes

 There're a ton of cards that can do that, unfortunately that's part of HS now. Reno for example. Priest also has insane amount of healing, they can easily go from 6 to 30 multiple times.

I guess you are a low rank because hunter is mostly common there. In lower ranks hunters are becoming more rare, everybody is playing priest, otk (pali) or some hyper aggro (odd pali, odd rogue). The lower you go the less hunters you will meet.

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What rank are you all playing at? It’s seems like all OTK pally,  Clone priest and big spell Mage at r5. I wish there were more hunters!

 Yeah either there is some weird RNG in my case, but I am not facing many hunters, it's just bunch of OTK Exodia Paladins, Mechatun Druids, Mind Blast Priests and then aggro decks like Odd Rogue. 

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Frostlich Jaina and DK Guldan are just way  too unfair imo , at least hunter has the need of dk rexxar to play the control game . DK Jaina just shits on weapon dec0ks because of her water elementals. DK Guldan not only summons a whole board of minions (3/9 taunts and spawn more taunts and 5/7 charge)but also get a really good heropower (which has no drawback whatsoever since warlock heropower is worthless in lategame.) These 2 hero cards are the worse offender of balance not cards like spreading plague.

 I'm Sorry to be this Blunt but WTF??

rexxar Is anche autoinclude in any non odd hunter (that,s not a problem IMO,it's Just to state it's Powerlevel) while jaina/gul Dan at least only fit in the slower decks,gul Dan only Summons disgusting boards of you supercommit to Building a deck around that and jaina countering weapons...ever Heard of removals and taunts?

Still the point Is that a good deck Can win the value game vs them (or...SMORC before they happen but i personally hate that strategy)

 Jaina is auto conclude in any Mage deck and Golden in any warlock deck that can play those cards so what's your point? All three of them, Rexxar, Jain, Golden, will be played in every deck of their class unless restricted by even/odd mechanic. They are all totally OP.