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So I have been playing this deck for a week now, and I came back to this post to say thanks!! I <3 this deck!
its fun, its different and its good, all at the same time! I can see this deck moving up in tiers after the new announced nerfs come in.

Soo Kudos to the person who made this deck!!

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Instead of nerfing it, why not give a counter to it. Dirty Rat V2? No?

 

 they need to just put dirty rat into the classic set 

OP, this only happens to you :P

well atleast im not alone with this idea that there is a design problem in the current meta!

Thanks Brian you explain it alot better then I do, someone should give this guy an award. I for one really hope someone at blizzard is paying attention.

The design problem with the Witchwood:

https://youtu.be/tP6YLB1hFxk

Hey there, thanks for your deck guide, its been a blast playing this deck. with Quest Rogue popping up all over the place atm, I was wondering, what can you advice against the quest rogue??

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Aren't you the guy that had an RNG conspiracy thread locked

Aren't you the guy that complained that they reprint abilities as legendaries or vice versa.

Quick Edit: You might want to make your polls at least slightly less biased because I know what you are talking about it's just that you are wrong in most cases. You can have your opinion, just doesn't make it objectively right that it would be beneficial or the like for the game.

Dude, I have an opinion. But you cant say someones opinion has to be objective. The pol gives two oposite options and you can clearly see they are made with a wink. I'm just as bias as you are in your response. But maybe you taking things abit to serious...

Also Im ok to agree to disagree, but no need to play it on the person, just because you dont like his opinion!

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What i think, Infinite combos or cycling degenerate the game. Jade idol, Rin, OTK ... I know you can silence Rin, but with Dark Pact in the game its berely possible. 4 Hadronox also feels like something that can brake the game. But those cards itself are not always a problem. Its just the little pieces here and little pieces there. Cube, Dark pact, Rin, Shudderwock that can be played more than once, 4 doomguards without any discard... thats the problem. I also think that if you erase those decks from meta, aggro decks will be less popular. Losing against cube locks feels like they cheated and losing against combo feels helpess without tool to defend.

I get it, game needs to evolve. But testers should do a better job discovering those interactions that feels wrong.   

And maybe, its all just an infinite argue between players who want to enjoy the game, watch their tribal decks and maybe laddering sometimes and those, who just minmax every single deck, depending on percentage winrates and counters. There should be two hearthstones for those two types of players. (jk) :D 

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Other than that, if you want this game to solely be only about players playing minions and opponents interacting until one wins because they had either better minions or better ways to interact, either you need to look for a new game, or if they do make a change for that, I'll be the one looking for a new game. (I'm not going to play a Card Game where the only strategy available is bland Midrange and Combo is absent.)

I get where you are coming from. That feeling of hopelessness as your opponent has answer after answer, or pulls off a combo that is so grossly overpowered it feels like or literally is the case that is nothing you can do. 

Hi guys,

As a huge Hearthstone fan since the beta, I would like to describe how my favoured turn based game is supposed to go.

My opponent does something, I react to that move, he responds and I try to do the math and counter that response. Etc etc etc.. until the end of the game, where is decided that the best player has won the match. Or you had bad RNG because you did not get to draw your needed counter, and this I can definitely live with. So keep this in the back of your mind for a minute…

In the past we had the arch type of Quest mage, this would stall your game, freeze your minions until it had his lethal requirements in the hand. From that point there was nothing you could do except spectate, until it played out, yes some turns you were allowed to play something on the board.. but it wouldn’t take long for a frost nova and doomsayer..

So don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying these decks are not fun to play, or don’t require any skills to play, because they do, but I do say it’s absolutely NO fun to play against. I don’t get to play my full potential, because half of the game I can’t make any choices to counter anything. You basicly feel helpless..

With Ice block out of the way I thought to myself, thank god that is out of the way. we won’t see this deck or gameplay on standard anymore. And Oooh boooy was I wrong.

Lately new architypes have arrived, and they do exactly the same as Quest mage did in the past.

Now we have Shudderwock Shaman and Taunt Druid with Hadronix what gets resummend by . If you thought it was annoying to play against Big Resurrect priest, try playing against a wall of taunts that get summoned back multiple times, just way too often.

You might say, Shudderwock is nothing like Quest Mage, well there I think you are wrong. It’s exactly the same, instead of frost nova they clear boards with Lightning Storm or Volcano! Until they reach their lethal requirement and play Shudderwock, again you can spectate your game and do nothing.

There is no counter if your deck is also playing the slow game!

So this forces people to no other option then playing brainless decks like Facehunter or other super aggressive decks, like Tempo Face Rogue or Agro Paladin. Because the only way to win from these annoying decks it to kill them before turn 6! So if you want to play control your shit out of luck when you run in to the decks I mentioned earlier.

And I get it now, this does create a sense of gameplay, that looks like rock-paper-scissors!

So why am I making this post and saying enough is enough blizzard. We have to draw a line somewhere. Every mechanic should have a counter, basically charge vs taunt. Or deathrattle vs silence. The options are endless. And thank god most mechanics have.

But we should never be merely spectators to our match and have no control on the outcome. For me this happens in the most decks I mentioned earlier, and it also describes why face(brainless)hunter for me falls in the same category. But at least Face hunter can be dealt with. I know I’m oversimplifying things, and it isn’t hard to read this and start nit-picking on little things. But overall, in the broader sense  you should be able to get the picture of what I’m trying to get across here.

I am curious, what do you guys think, in your opinion, is this something Blizzard should address now or in the near future?
And if so feel free to post any suggestions on how to do this. Please leave your vote and comment below to elaborate on your vote.

Lets keep the discussion healthy and constructive. Thanks guys

Frosty out!

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You shouldn't counter face hunter with Cubelock. I mean what the fuck you want to counter every other deck in the game? Hell no we've had enough. If you see too much Cubelock counters on ladder than switch to a deck that counters those. It's rock-paper-scissors and you should learn when to switch decks.

13375 wins and only 468 Arena's! Pretty obvious im not an arena player ^^

Yea I dont want to change to much and make me weaker to the other matchups on the ladder.
As it is now, Facehunter is 18% of my matches.

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Lets start by making clear that as cubelock odd hunter is an slightly unfavoured match up. If you don't get your key cards asap you are dead in the water and as a cubelock your hand tends to be clunky.

Now in your deck i would remove:

the ratcacters

the faceless manipulator 

umbra

All the above make your deck too greedy. Unless you want to counter control decks, the forementioned cards are useless.

What i would add in order to counter hunters

Rotten Applebaum

Second doomsayer

Plated Beetle

So I was just posting here, to ask help on how to deal with facehunters and I read your post.
Seeing that I have the deck code next to me, I might as well share this with you.
So far it got me to rank 4 and I'm pretty sure it will take me further this season.

If you have to make hard choices on what to drop because of the lack of dust.. I would craft the follow cards last or not at all:

Ratcatcher& Prince Taldaram.

Spiritsinger Umbra is prob not manditory but its a lot of fun to have in this deck. Hope this helps you out a little.