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None of those are played in shaman

No, shaman already has enough burn

I would run another teacher and drop novice engineer, the deck is much much worse without bloodmage, edwin and 2 preps

Quote from KyRoS37 >>

 Don't forget N'Zoth/Deathrattle rogue/priest/paladin. He's quite good in the current meta.

Quote from TESTOMAN >>

Besides N'Zoth decks where you guys would put Cairne? Im thinking if i should craft it but theres many good 6 drops like sylvanas which is must have and black knight aint bad either against all c'tun decks.

Is Cairne worth crafting?

Quote from StonedApprentice >>

Nice breakdown,  thank you very much.   Good advice all around.  As far as the Classic Legendaries go though,  I have all that you mentioned.  I have every important,  or semi-important Classic.  The only one's I'm missing are Nat,  Cho,  Tinkmaster,  Hogger,  Onyxia,  Capt. Greenskin,  the beast,  Noz,  Gruul,  and Deathwing.   Nothing worth crafting there I assume.   But I guess I'll just hold off for the moment.   Until there's something I know want to use immediately.   Thanks again.

I wrote one for this season when I hit top 50

https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/231-top-50-flood-s-cold-blood-miracle-guide

Quote from cecton >>

I need about 35 wins for golden Warrior. Is Malkorok that good in tempo? How is he better than just playing Gorehowl?

Quote from TheDiminished >>

Have any of you disenchant any Naxx -GvG or other expansion legendaries? I'm planning to do so but don't know which ones should be kept for wild.

Quote from BloodySundae77 >>

 Deathwing, Dragonlord has seen competitive play - it's just not the MVP of one particular strong meta star at the moment. Onyxia does not in any way at all belong to Tier 4 - for arguments on why, check the previous pages where I have commented on that (she has been raised in "tiers" significantly in shaman evolve decks etc).

You are also very much mistaken on Cairne, and a simple look on the decks he is currently featured in (a LOT, and not just NZoth ones) will prove this. For people that don't have him, it's one of the top crafting priorities at the moment for Standard where most of the old sticky deathrattle minions are gone, primarily for NZoth decks, control warrior and also other decks (evolve ones etc).

Quote from Elvis >>

@ Flood: I agree with almost all your placements but personally think some cards are in the wrong tiers. Could you tell me why you feel they should stay where they are (or be moved accordingly if I happen to change your mind)?

Cairne Bloodhoof should be tier 2 at least perhaps even tier one later if a more refined deathrattle (DR) deck comes out that is top tier. Currently due to many DR leaving standard, I think it is a staple in DR rogue, pali, and hunter. This is mainly due to N'Zoth, the Corruptor which you put tier 1.

Onyxia is not unplayable atm from what I have tried out. Mainly because evolve shaman is one of the most dominating decks currently. Turn 10 or later Onyxia + Evolve is very strong most cases (unless like a doomsayer lets say). Even alone it has been a bit of a pain since they need single target removal and some aoe in most cases. Had it Sap one game but could bloodlust to help clear most of enemy board since I was just a bit off lethal. I'm not saying it's top tier by any means but do not believe its unplayable. Tier 3 should be fine for it atm and only because a top tier deck can actually use it (even though I don't see it often since most don't have the card lol).

 

Yogg-Saron, Hope's End is unplayable imo. Don't get me wrong, I love the card, its my fav this expansion and happened to be my first legendary I pulled from the new pack, but I have tried to make it work in rogue/mage and wow, it sucks. I have been winning games before I play it and after I play I am mostly losing the game. I have been astral communinioned when I had like 2 maybe 0 cards in deck and lost, etc... In my games it kills itself 80-90% of time. I feel it is in tier 4/unplayable tier as far as consistency goes. Why do you feel its playable?

These last two I have but not tested yet. Just feel they should be in tier 3: Deathwing, Dragonlord, Shifter Zerus. DD in dragon pali, priest, or dragon/deathrattle shaman, which there is a decently high rated deck on hearthpwn atm. While Shifter Zerus just seems like it could fit in most midrange/control decks and be useful at some point in the game.

Thanks for the guide, it's quite nice for new players and for older players to hopefully confirm their rankings/ get a second opinion.

 

 

Dust all craft thalnos if you want to play miracle varian if you want to play tempo and yesera is not needed for any decks right now

Quote from Tiguriusbg >>

Thinking of trying to get some dust for a few legendaries - currently trying to figure out which one between Fandral, Ysera, Varian and Thalnos. In terms of getting dust, im looking at Anomalus, Herald Volazj, Kel'Thuzad and Rafaam, any thoughts?

Quote from hlhammer1001 >>

I remember when I got CHILLMAW *hint* *hint* from Blackrock Mtn

The good shaman decks right now are

a) Aggro Shaman

b) Hybrid Shaman (doesnt run fire elemental)

c) Midrange Shaman (does run fire elemental and does not run 4mana 7/7)

The bad shaman decks/the ones that don't exist right now are

a) Control shaman

b) overload shaman

Quote from figjam >>

As much as I love Malygos card, I have seen it less than than 10 times in last 1000 games. That's same as King Krush. 

Don't know why King Krush is unplayable while Malygos is in Tier 1. It has finished me so many games. Krush has immediate impact, no? You play, and you hit for 8 damage. Excellent finisher.

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Cairne Bloodhoof is in both playable and unplayable tier? 

Funny, how those unplayable cards are more fun than playable ones. Hopefully someday they all will see some play. ^^