Miracle Rogue was first created by a player name Sveno. He created the deck before Hearthstone was even playable.
This isn't true. And it's sad to see this historic deck post be tarnished by someone wanting to claim fame so many years after we moved the deck post this puppet legacydecks account.
The Miracle Rogue deck idea existed when I played in the NDA Alpha in early 2013 with 0 mana conceal. The game was "playable" before the public even saw the cards (during the closed beta which I was also a part of), so no, this unknown Sveno person did not create Miracle Rogue.
In fact, there is no 'creator' of Miracle Rogue. Day 1 of the closed beta I was playing Miracle Rogue with 1 Mana Shiv and Stealth Edwin before any decklists were even shared online, does this mean I created it? No, because the deck was being played before it was possible to share online, so the first person to actually play Miracle Rogue will never be known, but it certainly wasn't whoever Sveno was. Unless they can show a similar decklist in an Alpha screenshot, they are not the creator and Miracle Rogue has no 'creator'.
In 2015, I was asked to comment as the 'creator' of Miracle Rogue for the Gusiness Book of World Records Gamer Edition, 2016. I stated very clearly Miracle was not my deck, despite me owning this deck post at the time. This got Hearthpwn in a Guiness World Records book, which was cool, but it was very important to me that no one claimed to 'create' Miracle Rogue because I played it before before net-decking even existed for Hearthstone.
Please remove this, or provide some evidence that this unknown person was the creator of a deck that myself and other people were playing under an NDA in 2013 before Hearthstone was even public.
I'd love to update this post with some history and link out to relevant sources
This card is strong in 2 ways. The actual 20/20 which takes hard removal to kill and the 3 candles which invade your opponent's deck preventing 1-of decks like Raza priest from activating their battlecries. A bonus is that either way you are happy if they draw no candles their cards don't work and if they draw them all you get a 20/20, meaning the card's worst case (against Raza priest or 1-of warlock which might be a deck later this expansion) is when they draw 2 candles and have 1 in the deck.
Obviously, the worst part of the card, in general, is that you do nothing the turn you play it, meaning it is probably bad in tempo deck, midrange and aggro. The other bad part of the card is the fact that it's legendary and not searchable. This means that if the Raza Priest draws Raza before before you draw this card it doesn't even change their combo potential with the Death Knight. This makes it pretty weak in control decks which need a hard answer to the late game combo of Raza Priest.
So for mill, which is not a deck and has never been a deck in standard, this card does not seem as strong as people think. the best mill deck has been a Rogue which uses N'zoth to resurrect deathlord and dancing blades(?) and would not need this. A few reasons why a 20/20 is not good in mill. 1) mill has no large minions so the hard removal would not be a useful card until you play this. You rarely have enough mana to play a 4 mana "do nothing" and if you do, it gains you nothing in the early game which is when mill loses.
To conclude, this card is not meta defining in any way. It's at its best against Raza Priest which requires luck to be drawn before the opponents Raza, and if you can win that coin flip, you might as well play Raza Priest.
You can't compare a 6 mana card to six 1 mana cards. Saying this is "half as good" as Iron Hide is wrong. 1 mana cards are stronger per mana cost than 6 mana cards. Like a Mana Wyrm x6 would be a 6/18 that gained 6 attack when you cast a spell. Pretty strong 6 drop eh? Or Iron Hide x6 would give you 30 armor for 6 mana, also too strong. This is a fantastic card, the problem is the randomness making it worse than "very good". If control warrior is a deck, this card will be in the deck.
I was pretty excited for the rogue card because I saw all of the other risks with design and I really think they gave rogue something awesome, will it be competitive at 9 mana? not sure, but if it is, rogue will be very good
Teammate got legend? you don't enter in legend at rank 3k... and it shows your rank before the game beside your name so that screenshot is someone just winning a game with shaman...
Nice deck tho I saw the rank 10 legend evolve shaman, I just want to know why you would ever run devolve... seems like any anyone card that doesn't kill things is just worse than lighting storm, but maybe you need a 5th aoe.
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This isn't true. And it's sad to see this historic deck post be tarnished by someone wanting to claim fame so many years after we moved the deck post this puppet legacydecks account.
The Miracle Rogue deck idea existed when I played in the NDA Alpha in early 2013 with 0 mana conceal. The game was "playable" before the public even saw the cards (during the closed beta which I was also a part of), so no, this unknown Sveno person did not create Miracle Rogue.
In fact, there is no 'creator' of Miracle Rogue. Day 1 of the closed beta I was playing Miracle Rogue with 1 Mana Shiv and Stealth Edwin before any decklists were even shared online, does this mean I created it? No, because the deck was being played before it was possible to share online, so the first person to actually play Miracle Rogue will never be known, but it certainly wasn't whoever Sveno was. Unless they can show a similar decklist in an Alpha screenshot, they are not the creator and Miracle Rogue has no 'creator'.
In 2015, I was asked to comment as the 'creator' of Miracle Rogue for the Gusiness Book of World Records Gamer Edition, 2016. I stated very clearly Miracle was not my deck, despite me owning this deck post at the time. This got Hearthpwn in a Guiness World Records book, which was cool, but it was very important to me that no one claimed to 'create' Miracle Rogue because I played it before before net-decking even existed for Hearthstone.
Please remove this, or provide some evidence that this unknown person was the creator of a deck that myself and other people were playing under an NDA in 2013 before Hearthstone was even public.
I'd love to update this post with some history and link out to relevant sources
- Travis AKA Flood
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Hey guys, just seeing if I finished it first? https://twitter.com/Floodtcg/status/938838820560220160\
Has anyone else done it?
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I can't wait for aggro buff paladin, don't think that deck wants the quest tho.
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This card is strong in 2 ways. The actual 20/20 which takes hard removal to kill and the 3 candles which invade your opponent's deck preventing 1-of decks like Raza priest from activating their battlecries. A bonus is that either way you are happy if they draw no candles their cards don't work and if they draw them all you get a 20/20, meaning the card's worst case (against Raza priest or 1-of warlock which might be a deck later this expansion) is when they draw 2 candles and have 1 in the deck.
Obviously, the worst part of the card, in general, is that you do nothing the turn you play it, meaning it is probably bad in tempo deck, midrange and aggro. The other bad part of the card is the fact that it's legendary and not searchable. This means that if the Raza Priest draws Raza before before you draw this card it doesn't even change their combo potential with the Death Knight. This makes it pretty weak in control decks which need a hard answer to the late game combo of Raza Priest.
So for mill, which is not a deck and has never been a deck in standard, this card does not seem as strong as people think. the best mill deck has been a Rogue which uses N'zoth to resurrect deathlord and dancing blades(?) and would not need this. A few reasons why a 20/20 is not good in mill. 1) mill has no large minions so the hard removal would not be a useful card until you play this. You rarely have enough mana to play a 4 mana "do nothing" and if you do, it gains you nothing in the early game which is when mill loses.
To conclude, this card is not meta defining in any way. It's at its best against Raza Priest which requires luck to be drawn before the opponents Raza, and if you can win that coin flip, you might as well play Raza Priest.
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You can't compare a 6 mana card to six 1 mana cards. Saying this is "half as good" as Iron Hide is wrong. 1 mana cards are stronger per mana cost than 6 mana cards. Like a Mana Wyrm x6 would be a 6/18 that gained 6 attack when you cast a spell. Pretty strong 6 drop eh? Or Iron Hide x6 would give you 30 armor for 6 mana, also too strong. This is a fantastic card, the problem is the randomness making it worse than "very good". If control warrior is a deck, this card will be in the deck.
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Just play the murloc package its much better
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silence the dragon lol it wont die and wins in 4 turns
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reynad - everyone hates him, but he is the best deck builder
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I was pretty excited for the rogue card because I saw all of the other risks with design and I really think they gave rogue something awesome, will it be competitive at 9 mana? not sure, but if it is, rogue will be very good
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This card is very good in a slower token druid build it basically will need hard removal
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"All your minions may attack gain 5 mana"
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the meta was to fast at the time
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Teammate got legend? you don't enter in legend at rank 3k... and it shows your rank before the game beside your name so that screenshot is someone just winning a game with shaman...
Nice deck tho I saw the rank 10 legend evolve shaman, I just want to know why you would ever run devolve... seems like any anyone card that doesn't kill things is just worse than lighting storm, but maybe you need a 5th aoe.
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In legend miracle is #1 lol