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I got Harbinger Celestia that legendary that turns into a minion that your opponent plays. 

I don't know, but I think that one is WAY worse than Nat Pagle. Nat is at least, rarely, but could be a strong tempo play on 2 when strong tempo plays matter.

The new Legendary is total garbage. Its not that good on tempo is it doesn't change and there is no deck it is good against. 

Against aggro obvious trash. 

Against big Warlocks are you getting Voidlord no your getting a Kabal Lackey you can't use 

Against Big Priest in Wild, they summon their minions they don't have to play them 

Big Mages play Fire Fly. Big Druids? Your getting Hadronox you can't use. Your getting Dragon Caller or Oakenheart that pulls nothing. 

No one just plays big minions anymore they cheat them out. Your getting the trash card they use to cheat out those big minions. 

This has to be the worst Legendary ever printed.

Mecha Thun seems to have a few good decks forming around it, but you would have to like playing combo decks and have the cards to play the combo. 

Dr. Boom is solid, but Mech Warrior hasn't been on ladder too much, or have you seen it more than me? 

Zillax is already popping up in decks with no other mechs that is probably the safest craft especially if as it looks now Zoo decks like Heallock, and Odd Pally are going to be top tier. Zillax is going to be good. 

Though Combo decks also seem to be on the rise. 

Whizbang seems to have hype but I don't understand why. HS has a Tavern Brawl every year where you play their generally awful and often boring deck recipes. I never enjoy it. Seems like this is a less consistent version of that. If playing bad decks is your thing...you can just make a bad deck. Making bad decks is easy and doesn't require a big card pool or an expensive legendary. 

I Didn't buy the expansion. So I am running a version and it seems to be really good. 

Juicy Psychmelon versus UI. I only run one cus the deck is kinda heavy and I never run out of cards. The main idea. The main benefit is the Corridor Creeper and Mulchmuncher or in my case Sea Giant since I don't have Mulchmuncher tutor. If you have a board you can sack you are getting a massive amount states, with decent consistency for very very little mana. 10/13 of stats for 4 mana with Sea Giant and theoretically for free with Mulchmuncher...plus rush. No, that is definitely good. There is definitely value in tutoring for that. 

The other benefit is with Wispering Woods. Draw 4 for 4 can be played alongside Whispering Woods on 8 boosting its power level if your gassing. 

Haven't tried Floop since I don't have it. 

The Mechs are powerful but they are pretty easily beaten with silence and big removal. I started teaching BGH in. Token Druid was tier one in the last meta and will be tier one or two likely in the next meta. 

Lich King is actually a very common include in token druid lists. The reason why it is in this list is, pretty obvious, you want an 8-drop to maximize your Psychmelon pull.

WR: 7-2
Taunt Druid is the only match that feels un-win-able to me 

Why this could work?

If you can get the cost reduction on Creeper and Muncher to near 0 fairly fast, and that doest seem impossible then I think this deck could REALLY work. 10/13 stats for basically nothing by turn 6 works...probably.

 With only 1 9-drop and 1 8-drop only the first Psychmelon is good. Maybe you only run one Psychmelon or maybe it is so good, you risk the dead card to run two. I don't know.

Although, if the reduction on Creeper, and Muncher is significant enough maybe you only need to draw those two cards. At some point it is almost 4 mana draw and play for free 10/13 worth of minions. 

I didn't buy the expansion so this the version I am running. I want to move to a more Treant heavy version with Mulchmuncher as I get more cards 

I agree. This is the worst meta EVER!!!

I can not BELIEVE Blizzard has not nerfed Mech Warrior yet!!! 

Trash game! Terrible expansion! 

The only deck that beats it. 30 legendary Rogue is way too expensive too!!! Good job Blizztards. 

on second though maybe it is a little too early to complain about the meta. Remember Shudderwock Shaman, that worked itself out.

Let us give it some time...maybe we can wait for it to come out...

For now though, should you drop $80 on preorder. NO!

Wait, do you make money, I mean more money than you know what to do with and or live with your parents than sure, who cares, why not. 

Otherwise. OMG!!! Stop giving HS money!!! What you are you doing!

Yah, I forget Charged Devilsaur was a proto rush card so it is worded differently. 

The full board of treants is actually VERY easy to achieve. Play Token Druid. You pull that combo off one way or another every game, and there are more Treant cards. 

The OTK dream is dead, but I think the reduction on this card is still good enough to play in every token druid 

Duid has been God Tier since beta...

Force/Roar op op 
nerf nerf nerf
Jade Idol op op 
rotations 
UI op 
OP

Look at the deathrattles in standard. 

This is probably option a: Gain 3 armor, option b: Deal 5 dmg to your side of the board, or option c Summon a 2/2 on death 

Im glad Blizzard agrees Face Hunter should be trash

I think this is a tier 1 deck 

Cube/Mulchmuncher is prolly OTK in the same way it works with Cube/Devilsaur

Whispering Woods/Spreading Plague/Soul of the Forest is already a thing.

That combo once could reduce the cost of this to 3, and that is with no other synergy card, and you would run other cards

Whispering Woods works well with draw, OTK combos work with draw, and Druid has Ultimate draw 

So you have a Tier 1ish deck. Token Druid. With an OTK from hand finisher. It could be pretty oppressive. 

You think grinding the highest win rate net deck on ladder is fun. You do not understand the difference between fun and boring. You are a confused, confused person. 

I did it! I lost to Quest Rogue with an early Glacial Shard. Then Cubelock with an Early Mountain Giant plus Cube. I admitted the truth to myself. This game is fucking dumb. This game has been teetering on fucking dumb for a really long time. It is there. It is time. After years of holding out hope mostly because of the commitment I have given HS. 

I am mother fucking OUT! I am FREE!!! Fuck this game right into my trash bin. It is bad. There have been a few metas, usually right after a release, or right after a set of nerfs that have been kind of fun. We are talking about the most expensive video game out there to get any decent amount of content for. It has fucking optimistically 4 weeks every 3 months of actually fucking enjoyable gameplay. 

Stop throwing good money or time after bad. This game is fucking bad. The devs are shit. It has been years. They are not getting fucking better. If anything they might honestly be getting worse. 

Take a cue from Ben Brode and get the fuck out! 

OMG! I 100% agree. It is this meta though, man. This is the worst meta I have experienced since Mean Streets. I honestly, just got done finishing my daily quest. My reaction to seeing it pop up complete was thank fucking god I don't have to play Hearthstone anymore today. 

I was actually having fun at the start with a Corpsetaker Shudderwock Midrange. Things settled in a really bad place though.

The Meta is so, so very bad. All the top tier decks are super degenerate and unfun to play against. Except actually Paladin. Paladin is overpowered but that is the one match up I actually enjoy. Because, I like the game HS promised on the tin, fun and interactive board combat. 

Spiteful is kind of ok too. Of course, when they do have Keleseth on 2 and/or Spiteful on 6 it is as little fun as you can possibly have while losing in the dumbest most RNG dependent way possible. 

Every other deck. Mind Blast Priest, Warlock of all varieties, Face Mage, Face Rogue, Face Hunter, Quest Rogue. None of these decks give 2 shits about what you do on board. They are just single-playing their way to win or lose. Never really play the game as I understand it.  

Quote from MrNightmare >>

1. Sunkeeper Tarim and Kobold Librarian [/card] are perfectly designed cards. They're just good, but not OP, like [card]Tar Creeper. They don't need nerfs.

2. A nerf to Doomguard won't change a lot, because all Cubelock players will just spend ~2000 dust (which almost everyone  has still got - for example I have 4500 dust and probably nothing to do with it) and play Control Warlock

3.Baku paladin isn't a problem. It's actually a tier 2 deck, so why do they even discuss about it? And how can it be changed? To summon a 2/2 Recruit?

4. Nerfing Quest Rogue second time will kill this deck. Now it's a good deck, i also think that it's balanced and cheap to craft so no one cries like "i don't have dust for it, it beats my deck, nerf it please" (hello cubelock haters - not all but at least a half of them), because everyone is able to play this deck. 

5. Spiteful Summoner shoul be nerfed to 8 mana. A 4/4 minion and at least an 8/8 minion for 8 mana is still strong (and a 4/4 minion and a 12/12 can't be targeted by spells or hero powers for 8 mana is still too much)

6. I play wild only for fun, so i don't encounter many Giant Warlocks, but how many decks can deal with 53/53 on turn 5? Probably only pre-nerf Quest Rogue and even paladin with Equality+Consecration on his hand. This card should be nerfed, here's just "no discussion avaible"

7. Nerfing Gul'dan is stupid. Again, how can they do it? Maybe make his hero power "Lifesteal. Deal 3 damage to a minion" or "Lifesteal. Deal 2 damage" but his battlecry is completely fine. OK, i agree that real problem of this card is it's hero power, which is a powrecreep to Paladin and Druid's DK power, and upgraded Warrior, Druid, Hunter and Mage's power.