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The ludicrous amount of corporate apologia present in this thread would be hilarious if it weren't actually serious.

Are people legitimately saying "omg poor actiblizz how can they earn money with you scum f2p around"? Like, seriously serious? You're aware of the amount of money actiblizz makes (without even mentioning the exorbitant amount of money they make by tax evading every single year)? When you look at other digital ccgs like runeterra, mtg, you name it, and you see their economy model, do you seriously want to suggest that actiblizz can't possibly make enough money? That must require a serious amount of blind fanboyism or stupidity (or just both, they usually tend to go hand in hand). Or maybe you're trying to suggest they're already spending all their budget on playtesting, now that would be absolutely believable, wouldn't it.

I already have the last adventure but I seriously don't see any problems with the idea that crafting a card from an adventure if one should wish to. I seriously don't understand why anyone would be against it, either. Does it change anything to you if the adventure cards could be crafted? Is it that you don't want to admit you were shafted by blizzard? Or that you want to stomp on the f2p peasants with your muunneeeyyy? No, really, I'd absolutely love to hear plausible and reasoned answers to that questions. Again, I have the adventure and if they made the cards in it craftable right now, I wouldn't care in the slightest. Poor wittle actiblizz could make the cost of crafting them higher if they really were so hurting for money, for example. Or maaaaaybe they could make an actual adventure worth the money instead of the sheer garbage the last one was (go compare it with the first few ones that came out, saying it pales in comparison is far too generous).

I'd also like to quietly point out that hearthstone, like all ccgs, relies on f2p players, which make for the vast majority of the playerbase. Do enough to make the game seem too tilted for paying players (which I don't think is the case of late, especially with the free deck given to all new players which makes being f2p a much better experience than in years past) and you can have fun when hs gets the heroes of the storm treatment, lads.

And stop behaving like petulant boomers if you can, while you're at it. It's really unsightly.

 Wow. Just wow.

So, a few pointers:

1) Blizzard can afford to let us craft adventure cards =/= Blizzard is obligated to do so. I'm not "apologizing" for them, but as a grown up (albeit one playing a childrens card game) I understand that Blizzard is a private company that doesn't owe us anything.

2) You seem to believe that f2p players are somehow the ones making this game available for the players who spend money on it. That's some impressive, although ridiculous, mental gymnastics. You have to understand it's the exact other way around, right? Deep down?

And finally, 3): Please Google the word "petulant". Because your post is more or less soaked in petulance.

Nothing to add here. You're completely correct.

He must be a NASCAR fan. Let me know if you get it ;)

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They can't even figure out Auto-Squelch.  You think they can do this?

 This

 It won't be added. The explanation given was that it would kill the purpose of emotes. Why make them if everyone is on autosquelch?

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Please give me a reason to continue play HS after this Game

2x Vaporize, 4x Fireball.

 

 Mage: plays a secret

Him: Attacks to see what it is. Minion dies to vaporize. Fine, you couldn't predict that but now you knkw that it is a possibility.

Mage: plays another secret

Him: slams right into it with his biggest minion.

OmG hOw dId I lOsE?!

Don't continue. It seems best to me.

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Anyone feel gross playing against priest? Even if you win?

 

I've started just leaving instantly, and its been great. Still climbing but actually only fun games now.

If playing vs a class in a video game makes you feel gross then you've got deeper problems.

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It isn't. No good player will whine that MM and RNG are rigged against them. For proof you need nit look further than post history of users who claim that it is. Regulars in the salt thread and every other whine thread on hearthpwn.

 I achieved multiple high legends, are at 100% winrate so far this season with Highlander Mage (even though it's only 13 games so far :P) and still think it is rigged. With every day more I play this game my doubt this game is completely random rises. Of course I am salty, hell yeah. Because there is more than this, design decisions etc.

But there are so many situations where RNG decides the game with the perfect outcome it's against the every odd. Of course it happens, people also win lotteries. But it happens way to often.

And I repeat myself everytime: This company owns the rights behind a logic for rigged matchmaking. This fact alone rises the chances it is rigged to the skies. Why would a company spend money a) on developing these logics and b) on saving these rights, which, for a company like Activision Blizz, means costs over 100k and some thousand bucks each year to keep it. 
Just to have the right blocked for them? Naive.

I've explained this multiple times but I will do so again. That patent is for rigging MM in CoD and it pairs f2p players with those who have bought cosmetics in order to showcase them. That is what the actual patent says but people find it easier to apply it to EVERYTHING instead of reading the damn thing.

It isn't. No good player will whine that MM and RNG are rigged against them. For proof you need nit look further than post history of users who claim that it is. Regulars in the salt thread and every other whine thread on hearthpwn.

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People complaining about RNG have no idea. The most broken busted decks in this meta have absolutely no RNG. They are so busted because they are consistent. DH basically kills you by turn 5/6 guaranteed every game. Sure there is some RNG because of bad draws. Ultimately though the best decks, being tempo DH (which is absolutely the best deck right now, don't let anyone tell you otherwise, all the latest VS data confirms it's the best in legend - look out for the next meta report), hunter and enrage warrior have very little RNG. Hunter has a discover effect and sky raider gives a random pirate. there are lackeys though of course in enrage warrior. Other than that though very little RNG. Priest is a weak class and has lots of RNG.

Imagine you play every game and DH just gets its cards, same game plan, and kills you on turn 6 every single game. DH is so consistent it basically does just that. That's a boring game no one would play (which is kind of why I am surprised they didn't do anything about it).

 

 Who cares about losing to DH, I never hated losing against ANY "busted deck" in any time of my HS long run since open Beta. NEVER. But losing a game ONLY due to a RNG fiesta card like Yogg, YES. THAT MAKES ME MAD AND MAKES ME STOP PLAYING THIS GAME.

 ALL

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See for yourself

 

https://hsreplay.net/replay/whg6vUkbfRZZD8qi4sciXa

 All I see is weakness!

Please don't open salt threads.

The solution to your problem is being developed and it will come out at the first week of August.

Nothing wrong with this. In every meta ever there will be a worst class. It is simply shaman's turn now.

You couldn't beat a mage and a rogue in 25min and you lost? This isn't RNG. This is you jusy being plain bad. If you can't beat your opponent in 25min in HS you don't deserve to win. What you were doing is just prolonging your loss.

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 Funny respons. Indeed no Department of Game Investigation.....yet. Look at Google, MS en Apple. Big tech are scrutinized on different levels by state actors and international regulations. The game industry is very big. In the EU pricing loot boxes is forbidden. Need to get accustomed to the idea to scrutinize on the level of MMR and RNG. 

You seen to be a firm believer that Blizzard is not rigging. Funny. you don't need any proof to believe in holy Blizzard. It's called religious.Maybe Blizzard is a god for the multitudes.

 You want me to prove Blizzard is NOT rigging the system? You know that it's not possible to prove a negative, right? I don't consider Blizzard "holy." I consider it a sensible, risk-adverse corporation that understands there's no meaningful upside to manipulating the MMR or RNG, and a huge downside.

As for investigations, those are typically launched based on, wait for it, EVIDENCE. You know, the stuff you can't be bothered to collect? "Everybody knows" is not evidence. Hideous streaks of bad luck are not evidence. Deranged ideas of evil corporations trying to scam $20 off you is not evidence. Actual hard numbers are. Do you draw card X more often against one deck than another? Does your opponent draw his card more often than percentages say he should? That's real evidence. And you've got none.

So you consider them 'a sensible, risk adverse corporation.'  Reason why you not thinking they are rigging the game. I like your gullibility and lack of critical thinking - quod non.  Remember Enron 2001?  A showcase of financial frauds:https://www.cbsnews.com/media/top-14-financial-frauds-of-all-time/  

Frauds only possible because nobody ask serious questions....till it was too late.

(showcase only an example among many others based on all thrusting types like you). 

 Again, you draw your knowledge of corporate behavior from stupid Hollywood movies and even stupider politicians. There are hundreds of large corporations out there, and the vast majority of them obey, to the best of their ability, the law. You're focusing on the exceptions. (As an aside, frequently, when these firms do get penalized for something, it's the result of legitimate disagreements over how to interpret an existing regulation, not a result of a company saying "We know this is illegal, but we're doing it anyway." The government's regulations are often quite confusing.) I never said the company was full of saints. It's got nothing to do with trust: it's entirely a matter of the company's own self-interest. The gaming industry is extraordinarily competitive, and there's substantial personnel movement between firms. So people who used to work in senior positions at Blizzard are now likely at all its competitors. Why wouldn't they anonymously leak this fraud to the government or media? It would crush Blizzard and help its competitors. Rigging the RNG is not something that can be done by only a few people: it would be widely known among much of the development team. So why hasn't this come to light? The obvious answer: because it's not happening. The risk/ reward simply doesn't justify it.

Again, show me evidence, tough guy. Actual data. If it's sooooo obvious, it shouldn't take you long. Truth is, you can't.

 Lots of words, trying to turn things around while you don't have the proof of not rigging. Ever heard of non disclosure agreements? You don't sell out. The competition will not trust you then when you want to work for them. Your sofism won't help you this time.

Hooghout, even you should know that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't hold in a debate. That is how our society functioned in the Medieval times. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused and you have presented none. No, "other companies did it" isn't evidence.

You brought the accusation so you need to present evidence to back it up or else your accusation doesn't have any ground to stand on.

 You're a believer. And one can't argue with believers in the goodness of Blizzard.

 Great job, now you have two things to prove.

 Another sophist being captious, using plausible but fallacious and deceptive reasoning.

Yes, you are right. I should use your "guilty until proven innocent" reasoning instead. Isn't it enough for you to be a burden to society? Do you have to be a burden online too?

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 Funny respons. Indeed no Department of Game Investigation.....yet. Look at Google, MS en Apple. Big tech are scrutinized on different levels by state actors and international regulations. The game industry is very big. In the EU pricing loot boxes is forbidden. Need to get accustomed to the idea to scrutinize on the level of MMR and RNG. 

You seen to be a firm believer that Blizzard is not rigging. Funny. you don't need any proof to believe in holy Blizzard. It's called religious.Maybe Blizzard is a god for the multitudes.

 You want me to prove Blizzard is NOT rigging the system? You know that it's not possible to prove a negative, right? I don't consider Blizzard "holy." I consider it a sensible, risk-adverse corporation that understands there's no meaningful upside to manipulating the MMR or RNG, and a huge downside.

As for investigations, those are typically launched based on, wait for it, EVIDENCE. You know, the stuff you can't be bothered to collect? "Everybody knows" is not evidence. Hideous streaks of bad luck are not evidence. Deranged ideas of evil corporations trying to scam $20 off you is not evidence. Actual hard numbers are. Do you draw card X more often against one deck than another? Does your opponent draw his card more often than percentages say he should? That's real evidence. And you've got none.

So you consider them 'a sensible, risk adverse corporation.'  Reason why you not thinking they are rigging the game. I like your gullibility and lack of critical thinking - quod non.  Remember Enron 2001?  A showcase of financial frauds:https://www.cbsnews.com/media/top-14-financial-frauds-of-all-time/  

Frauds only possible because nobody ask serious questions....till it was too late.

(showcase only an example among many others based on all thrusting types like you). 

 Again, you draw your knowledge of corporate behavior from stupid Hollywood movies and even stupider politicians. There are hundreds of large corporations out there, and the vast majority of them obey, to the best of their ability, the law. You're focusing on the exceptions. (As an aside, frequently, when these firms do get penalized for something, it's the result of legitimate disagreements over how to interpret an existing regulation, not a result of a company saying "We know this is illegal, but we're doing it anyway." The government's regulations are often quite confusing.) I never said the company was full of saints. It's got nothing to do with trust: it's entirely a matter of the company's own self-interest. The gaming industry is extraordinarily competitive, and there's substantial personnel movement between firms. So people who used to work in senior positions at Blizzard are now likely at all its competitors. Why wouldn't they anonymously leak this fraud to the government or media? It would crush Blizzard and help its competitors. Rigging the RNG is not something that can be done by only a few people: it would be widely known among much of the development team. So why hasn't this come to light? The obvious answer: because it's not happening. The risk/ reward simply doesn't justify it.

Again, show me evidence, tough guy. Actual data. If it's sooooo obvious, it shouldn't take you long. Truth is, you can't.

 Lots of words, trying to turn things around while you don't have the proof of not rigging. Ever heard of non disclosure agreements? You don't sell out. The competition will not trust you then when you want to work for them. Your sofism won't help you this time.

Hooghout, even you should know that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't hold in a debate. That is how our society functioned in the Medieval times. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused and you have presented none. No, "other companies did it" isn't evidence.

You brought the accusation so you need to present evidence to back it up or else your accusation doesn't have any ground to stand on.

 You're a believer. And one can't argue with believers in the goodness of Blizzard.

 Great job, now you have two things to prove.

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Exactly, it's not even possible (or easy?) to make a card like Zephrys work perfectly, or AI to play halfway decently, but apparently Blizzard has managed to put some code into the game that reads the match status, decides who is ahead and tweaks RNG in a way to balance that? At the same time there is another piece of code that recognizes what deck you are playing, knows exactly what kind of deck you would fare badly against (in a constantly shifting meta too) and if you are winning to match is going to pair you with one next game? Yeah, right....

 Umh...ZePhRyS iS sEcReTlY cOdEd To GiVe YoU sHiTtY cHoIcEs On PuRpOsE sO tHaT yOu ThInK tHaT Bli$$ard AI iS bAd WhEn It AcTuAlLy IsN't!!!

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 Funny respons. Indeed no Department of Game Investigation.....yet. Look at Google, MS en Apple. Big tech are scrutinized on different levels by state actors and international regulations. The game industry is very big. In the EU pricing loot boxes is forbidden. Need to get accustomed to the idea to scrutinize on the level of MMR and RNG. 

You seen to be a firm believer that Blizzard is not rigging. Funny. you don't need any proof to believe in holy Blizzard. It's called religious.Maybe Blizzard is a god for the multitudes.

 You want me to prove Blizzard is NOT rigging the system? You know that it's not possible to prove a negative, right? I don't consider Blizzard "holy." I consider it a sensible, risk-adverse corporation that understands there's no meaningful upside to manipulating the MMR or RNG, and a huge downside.

As for investigations, those are typically launched based on, wait for it, EVIDENCE. You know, the stuff you can't be bothered to collect? "Everybody knows" is not evidence. Hideous streaks of bad luck are not evidence. Deranged ideas of evil corporations trying to scam $20 off you is not evidence. Actual hard numbers are. Do you draw card X more often against one deck than another? Does your opponent draw his card more often than percentages say he should? That's real evidence. And you've got none.

So you consider them 'a sensible, risk adverse corporation.'  Reason why you not thinking they are rigging the game. I like your gullibility and lack of critical thinking - quod non.  Remember Enron 2001?  A showcase of financial frauds:https://www.cbsnews.com/media/top-14-financial-frauds-of-all-time/  

Frauds only possible because nobody ask serious questions....till it was too late.

(showcase only an example among many others based on all thrusting types like you). 

 Again, you draw your knowledge of corporate behavior from stupid Hollywood movies and even stupider politicians. There are hundreds of large corporations out there, and the vast majority of them obey, to the best of their ability, the law. You're focusing on the exceptions. (As an aside, frequently, when these firms do get penalized for something, it's the result of legitimate disagreements over how to interpret an existing regulation, not a result of a company saying "We know this is illegal, but we're doing it anyway." The government's regulations are often quite confusing.) I never said the company was full of saints. It's got nothing to do with trust: it's entirely a matter of the company's own self-interest. The gaming industry is extraordinarily competitive, and there's substantial personnel movement between firms. So people who used to work in senior positions at Blizzard are now likely at all its competitors. Why wouldn't they anonymously leak this fraud to the government or media? It would crush Blizzard and help its competitors. Rigging the RNG is not something that can be done by only a few people: it would be widely known among much of the development team. So why hasn't this come to light? The obvious answer: because it's not happening. The risk/ reward simply doesn't justify it.

Again, show me evidence, tough guy. Actual data. If it's sooooo obvious, it shouldn't take you long. Truth is, you can't.

 Lots of words, trying to turn things around while you don't have the proof of not rigging. Ever heard of non disclosure agreements? You don't sell out. The competition will not trust you then when you want to work for them. Your sofism won't help you this time.

Hooghout, even you should know that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't hold in a debate. That is how our society functioned in the Medieval times. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused and you have presented none. No, "other companies did it" isn't evidence.

You brought the accusation so you need to present evidence to back it up or else your accusation doesn't have any ground to stand on.