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 Yeah, I think Jade Rogue will be better. Not sure even it will hold up to these other quest rewards, but I agree it will be stronger.

I messed around with one for a bit this season. Moat Lurker is actually really good in it! Can remove a taunt, and it can also sac your own Swarmers for added value.

 If you like Moat Lurker, it gets even better with Spiritsinger Umbra. Say you already have a Jade Swarmer down. If you play Umbra and then Lurker, you'll destroy your Swarmer, giving you a Jade. Then you'll resummon it with Lurker's Deathrattle. Then when it comes back into play, you'll summon the Jade from the Swarmer's deathrattle. So you now have two Jade golems, Lurker, Umbra and Swarmer. When Swarmer dies you get another Jade and when Lurker dies, you get another swarmer that'll give you another Jade later. It's absolutely nuts. These two cards essentially generate four Jades for you.

Oh just my mistake!

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TBH i'm really mad at this. It sets up an OTK (in wild) but they literally removed rogue's method of using the otk in standard so this card is atrocious here. And even in wild, I don't think having to draw, set up and then hold onto 6 1 damage cards before playing thausian or concealing maly is an 'easy' otk to pull off, compared to normal maly otks its about the same honestly, these really could have been 0 mana, or deal 2 damage.

 my thoughts exactly

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Well heres the new and improved Caverns Miracle. This list will most likely get the quest off at around turn 5 or 6 pretty consistently using the flame elementals at which point you just win. Plus you don't have to play any crappy brew cards.

[Un'Goro] Caverns Miracle Miracle Rogue Deck by Slycer93 - Mar 22, 2017 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (17) 1x Edwin VanCleef 1x Patches the Pirate 1x Xaril, Poisoned Mind 1x Biteweed 1x Burgly Bully 1x Coldlight Oracle 2x Gadgetzan Auctioneer 1x SI:7 Agent 2x Violet Teacher 2x Southsea Deckhand 2x Fire Fly 2x Igneous Elemental	Ability (13) 1x The Caverns Below 2x Preparation 2x Counterfeit Coin 2x Backstab 2x Eviscerate 2x Shadowstep 1x Sap 1x Shiv
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Ran a very similar deck recently. It was super fun, if not all that consistent. I had Belchers, which I think you're right to leave out.

However, I also had a Justice, which I think could be a good addition here. She gives you longevity and an extra 2 dmg if you need it for your otk.

 

Ran a very similar deck recently. It was super fun, if not all that consistent. I had Belchers, which I think you're right to leave out.

However, I also had a Justice, which I think could be a good addition here. She gives you longevity and an extra 2 dmg if you need it for your otk.

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why bother doing rogue quest when Jade rogue got so much better :p

Jade rogue Un'goro Jade Lotus Rogue Deck by KitsuneRTC - Mar 31, 2017 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (16) 1x Aya Blackpaw 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 1x Edwin VanCleef 1x Spiritsinger Umbra 2x Dirty Rat 2x Doomsayer 2x Shadowcaster 2x Vilespine Slayer 2x Jade Spirit 2x Jade Swarmer	Ability (14) 2x Preparation 2x Envenom Weapon 2x Mimic Pod 2x Backstab 2x Fan of Knives 2x Jade Shuriken 2x Shadowstep
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spirit singer is the single most ridiculous thing for jade rogue. Not to mention you can shadow step your swarmers to basically turn them into jade spirits. Turn 6 you can go SInger + Swarmer for 1 jade then shadow step him twice and play him twice for 2 more jade golems and still have him on the field. 

Not to mention how vile is literally the most broken card. Also, people will usually just leave vile alone after you play him meaning you can shadow caster him on turn 6 and play another copy of him right way. (that is until people get smart and use hard removal on a 3/4 to prevent that)

Anyone else feeling pretty down on Rogue after the stream today? I feel like they didn't even bother to show the rest of the Rogue cards, and then when they did get on Facebook, the result is pretty disappointing. 

The Quest itself is probably the most interesting of the bunch, but most of the other cards are just pretty weak. I'm afraid the other classes are just gonna walk all over rogue this time around.

Click on the Reddits. They well established a pack-type-specific pity counter for cards of a certain rarity, but they don't have anywhere near the data to establish a golden legendary pity counter.

That doesn't prove that it's not there, but I think there probably isn't one. 

Not worthwhile as data, but as an anecdote, F2P since open beta and one Golden Legendary. (I have gotten regular Nat Pagel three times!) Yeah...

This forum is sleeping on this card. I think it's extremely strong in basically every iteration, and getting two minions on the board should be easy for Hunter, Druid, Paladin, Shaman, and probably even Pirate Warrior. This card will definitely see play.

I think it will definitely be a thing, and probably pretty strong given Priest's access to healing with Raza and the Quest reward.

However, I don't think priest will be the only one. Renolock might have a hard time with the transition, because most of the new cards they've revealed play on the discard theme, which doesn't do well with reno-style decks. But I think Reno-mage could definitely be a thing. We haven't seen their quest yet, but I think there's probably enough there for either an elemental-themed or a secret-themed Kazakus mage.

Let's just hope the meta slows down enough for more diversity in the game!

The variety I've seen in Wild is impressive! It really does seem to be a place people try to play interesting decks at least half of the time.

But, sadly, I think Pirate warrior is probably the strongest deck. Others in the top tier though would be Reno-Deathrattle-Lock, Deathrattle Priest (not Reno), and Secret Paladin (but I think the more aggressive lists do better than the old midrange lists now).

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Does anyone know if Deadly Shot works against minions that can't be targeted by spells?

I actually disagree about Auctioneer for right now, but I could see wanting it rotated in the future.

Ice Block would definitely be my pick. Although, before rotating it to Wild, I'd rather see them make it a Legendary. I'm not saying this is ever gonna happen, but I really think it should be a one-time only card. I'd say the same for Doomhammer frankly.

I think the Rogue quest is one you will want to mulligan away. There's really no need to keep it, because you actually don't know which minion you're going to be able to bounce. (Assuming you have a few that could do the job well in your deck.) So, keep it, use it with Gadgetzan Auctioneer for card draw, and complete the quest all in one turn. This means you get one extra 5/5 that turn.

I'm not saying that's good or that this card is good; I just think that's an interesting synergy.

The synergies I like more are with Barnes and even Unearthed Raptor. As for the latter, I'd like to know if the card resurrects during battle-cry phase or only after the minion as hit the board. I also like how it could work with lots of little removal cards. It could kind-of become an SI:7 Agent if you re-summon it with a thalnos-coin-evis+one other card. Worth trying.