Hearthpwn

Watch Towers still demand to be answered and will continue to see play for sure.

Blizzard tends to not look ahead enough with these changes. Most players already dread the upcoming Warlock meta if the targeted classes get a serious nerf. I know I do!

NO MORE TICKETS!

Pen Flinger at 2 Mana would see zero play, not even in Wild. Won't happen. Most likely will only target minions.

Deck Of Lunacy would likewise see zero play if it upgraded to spells costing (1) more. Won't happen. Costing (2) more could happen, but we'll see. A Mana cost increase is more likely.

Your ideas seem entirely possible, though I expect Refreshing Spring Water will become 5 Mana rather than changing the cool mechanic of refunding 2 Mana per Spell. The latter is a major part of the card's flavor.

At 6 Mana, the card would be beyond unplayable, but I suppose that's what you're after. At 6 Mana, you cannot possibly ever afford to play it. It'd be a completely dead turn 6, so almost any deck would just outright kill you if you played it.

That means your opponent had them in their deck.

I mean, it generates a completely different set of cards, so it's very different altogether?

 Handbuffs are rarely strong. This card will need a lot of support to see play...

Or you could watch the video and see that you're wrong. It steals Attack until it has more attack. It steals Health until it has more Health.

When you use this against a 4/8 it will steal 2 Attack (now has 3, more than other minion's 2) and it will steal 4 Health (now has 5, more than opponent's 4). End result, this is a 3/5 and enemy minion is a 2/4.

For those complaining about the mace in the art. It's a Barrens expansion. In classic WoW rogues used to stunlock players in PvP using one-handed maces. That's where the flavor comes from.

I don't think you understand how Frenzy works. It triggers after the first time a minion takes damage. So in your case, you'd have two 3/2 minions after your Whirlwind. Maybe a bit more if your opponent's minion(s) got damaged. Nothing to write home about.

Rush or Taunt is enough. No need to make it broken.

Just a nice and fun initiative from the Hearthstone team and literally all they get is complaints. And then you guys wonder why the devs don't seem to be bothered with reading community feedback, can't blame them to be honest. 

5 mana 8/8, great idea...

And why exactly are you crying? Even if your logic were to make some sense (where Kargal and Watch Posts aren't intrinsically connected), there's still no harm being done here, only benefits. I think you're just jealous because you don't have a Kargal of your own to dust....

Why are people trying to discuss whether or not the refund is valid, this is coming out of Blizzard's own "digital pocket", there's only gains and no losses here. Those people must be either the company's dog for taking their "side" (when there's not even clashing ideas here, Blizz is giving us stuff for once) or just impatient folks who dusted the card as soon as they opened it because they didn't think it would see play, and thus, are super salty now that they've lost 1200 dust. 

Like, even if you can justify that, somehow, this refund makes no sense, you're still working against the players, you're sabotaging yourself. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Yup, I definitely agree with the refund. I've just tried some watch-post decks. I suggest everybody to try them and feel the difference! Watch-posts are now easily traded and, most of the times, they just sit in your hand (cause if you play them you lose tempo).

They severely crippled the weapon's power.  It draws 1 less card, gives 1 less mana, and has 1 less attack damage dealt.  That is insanely nerfed.

Pen flinger nerf removed a ton of hero damage.  How will they close out games now?

For everyone proclaiming this won’t change the winrate of Mage or Paladin, it will. It always does. I don’t understand how everyone always uses the same arguments, only to be proven wrong like 80% of the time.

Having to cast Lunacy on 4, or 3 with Coin, gives other decks, specifically Aggro decks, a vital turn to present a bigger board. 4-mana do nothing is devastating against Tempo decks. Turn 2 is fine to finger your bum, but you can’t do that turn 4.

Pen Flinger nerf hits Secret Libram Pally hard, for the simple reason that it loses its reach. That’s what made Libram Paladin so good; superb control tools WITH the ability to reach. As for the Sword, losing 1 durability doesn’t just mean it gets to cast one less Secret; it also means it thins out the deck less, in turn meaning Paladin has a bigger chance for dead draws. Furthermore, it means it can less consistently have Secrets in play to use cards that benefit from Secrets being in play.

I agree with the sentiment on the Posts, but a turn 2, or even turn 1, Watch Posts makes for an extremely shit experience. Same reason as to why Barnes got nerfed, and why Tickatus will most likely see a nerf too. Even though Tickatus is absolute garbage.

For once, kind people of the internet, let the meta settle and THEN call for nerfs. Increases in just 1 mana have proven to work in the past, always. As a last example, bumping Jandice to 6 doesn’t just mean it comes down a turn later; it also means Stepping it is less broken.

You are right. I missed that cost reduction is for one turn only. I just think that yshaar generate is too much value. 10/10, 6/6, 8/8, burn 5 cards and basically wipe opponents board...