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    Jul 9, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Problems with modelling a pack opening

    Sorry, to bring this post up, but i have to set something straight here in case someone does find this thread through the search engine. The idea of simple deleting the packs which doesn't contain at least one rare, epic or legendary is not completely right without adjustments. The Problem is that you don't cut random samples, but specific ones. Therefore, you Change the probabilites of each rarities. I still use this Approach, but i had to adjust the probabilies in a way, so that after the cutting of those specific samples the rarities occur with the correct probabilities again.

    By the way: The Programm does calculate the expected amount of packs needed to complete a set and it is quite accurate i would say. I had planned some extensions, but i decided to not continue any more (at least for now). However, if someone is interested in the Code, i would gladly share it. But i am not a pro, so don't expect to much ;)

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    Jul 7, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from NightCrawl3er >>

    Just out of curiosity... what exactly is it you did to get Blizzard's attention?

    I remember when Morgl was added, Kripparian released a video about the fact that many people just made new accounts to "earn" him and some people kept these alt accounts because free to play alts were surprisingly fun. To my knowledge, most content-based big streamers have many free to play alts and aren't afraid to show them off. So it was my understanding that multiaccounts are only illegal on paper. I never heard of anyone actually getting banned for it

     i can just guess. I was multiboxing 4 HS accounts at the same time. Everytime i logged in i did it with 4 accounts within a really short time. Then i was playing against my accounts to finish quest and thereby i concede everytime the lossing hero was below 15 HP. It is probably what raised their Attention.
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    Jul 7, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
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    I didn't found that. Could you please tell me where it is written?

     Item 10.B in combination with 1.A
    They are very unspecific so they can basically do what they want, at least according to their EULA. I actually don't know whether you could sue them and win in court, but I doubt the hassle is worth it. It's probably cheaper to throw the Money into a new account, if you want to play this game in the future. Or just go and Play Gwent or Elder Scrolls: Legends
     Thanks for the answer. Finally, someone how gets my question :) I think you are talking about 9.B and not 10.B, right? Well, i read that too and because of that i really don't know why they banned it, because my case is not listed in the list that causes bans. But you are right, they are really vage about it. Therefore i think the should at least justify it, but i didn't get any Details about it. 
    I am really not too mad about lossing the accounts. They weren't that good developed and there was a reason why i stoped playing HS in the first place. So i won't take any Actions on that matter. Just annoyed how Blizzard is handling the Situation. 
     No, actually I talked about 10Bii, Termination of the Agreement.
    "Blizzard reserves the right to terminate this Agreement at any time for any reason, or for no reason, with or without notice to you. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most Account suspensions and terminations are the result of violations of this Agreement. In case of minor violations of these rules, Blizzard may provide you with a prior warning and/or suspend your use of the Account due to your non-compliance prior to terminating the Agreement or modifying or deleting an Account."
     I figured that their is a difference between the US Eula and the EU Eula. Not only the numbers are different, but also the text:
    If you fail to comply with any terms contained in this Agreement and/or the In-Game Policies, Blizzard will provide you with a warning of your non-compliance. In case of a serious violation of this Agreement or the In-Game Policies, Blizzard will be entitled to immediately terminate this Agreement and the Service without any prior warning. Serious violations are violations of important provisions which include Sections 1(A)(v), 1(A)(vi), 1(B)(iv), 1(C), 1(D)(i)(2)(g), 2 and 3(B) of this Agreement or repeated violations of other provisions of this Agreement or the In-Game Policies, including further non-compliance where you already have received a prior warning.
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Knights of the Frozen Throne is Hearthstone's Next Expansion

    Well, it is not completely the same, but the basic idea is not new. Furthermore, you don't know if all Battlecries will be the same way.

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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Knights of the Frozen Throne is Hearthstone's Next Expansion

    Changing your hero and heropower doesn't seem THAT new to me...*cough* Lord Jaraxxus*cough*

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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
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    Guys, i got the official reason from Blizzard and it is crazy. I am accused to have used a third Party program. However, other than Innkeeper i didn't use any program. This brings it to another Level and therefore i will make a new thread discussing it there.

     That is a bad sign. I've used Innkeeper a few times, didn't get banned thankfully.
     I don't think you Need to worry about that. I think it was more about the way i played, which gave them the Impression that i used another Program. Because i was playing simultaneously, because i quit games when life of the lossing hero was under 15 and because i logged in with several accounts more or less at the same time.
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?

    Guys, i got the official reason from Blizzard and it is crazy. I am accused to have used a third Party program. However, other than Innkeeper i didn't use any program. This brings it to another Level and therefore i will make a new thread discussing it there.

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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from KaptainTrips >>

    This entire thread smacks of Troll.

     Well, i can give you all Account Details and you can see for yourself. It did really happen :)
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
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    So you play with 6 or more accounts... 1 real account and the rest is just for quest trading (reroll for the play a friend quest) and wonder why they ban you? Really?

     As i wrote earlier. It was not about quest trading. I played all accounts frequently. Did always all quest.
    And yes, i wonder, because also Blizzard has to stick to rules and i didn't found it. Bans are not the common punishment. Read the other comments first. It would help.
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from archdar >>

    I somehow envy you. At least you don't have to play this game anymore...

    Lol, honestly i am not mad about lossing the accounts. I have more stuff to do in the future and without HS i have way more time. It is the way Blizzard deals with it. 
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
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    I didn't found that. Could you please tell me where it is written?

     What other kind of punishment would you expect for violating the terms of service? Bans are the punishment... that should be common sense. You don't need to have it spelled out for you.
    Because any Violation is as bad as any other, right? And proportionality is not important, right? Bans are not the only punishment. It is even written in the ToS. They can also warn People. And their could be other ways to punish People as well, like temporal bans. From your logic your account can be banned even if you move and don't update your personal data. Do you think a ban would be justified in that case? I don't think so. But you don't get the main Point: Blizzard doesn't only have rights, they also have duties. They can't just randomly ban accounts. There must be a rule about that and that must be stated somewhere. And I was asking where it is stated. The ToS does NOT say that every Violation leads to a ban!!!
     
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    "My accounts were banned because XXX"

    "Why were my accounts banned"

    Look above. Furthermore, i didn't say they were banned because XXX. That is just your Interpretation.
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    why do you have 6 accouns? 2 or 3 i would understand but six???? probaly blizz thout you are going to sell them or something thats why the ban

     They did not ban because "they thought you are going to..."s. They banned because of violation of ToS, that's clear.
     Yes, because of the Violation of the ToS. But that this leads to a ban has to be stated somewhere and i was looking for that.
     Lol the splitting hairs is fantastic. It's like you got arrested for something you know you did was wrong, and then ask why you got put in jail.
     You don't get it. With your logic it a pickpocket should be okay to get a death Penalty even though it is not clearly stated in the law.
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
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    Because any Violation is as bad as any other, right? And proportionality is not important, right? Bans are not the only punishment. It is even written in the ToS. They can also warn People. And their could be other ways to punish People as well, like temporal bans. From your logic your account can be banned even if you move and don't update your personal data. Do you think a ban would be justified in that case? I don't think so. But you don't get the main Point: Blizzard doesn't only have rights, they also have duties. They can't just randomly ban accounts. There must be a rule about that and that must be stated somewhere. And I was asking where it is stated. The ToS does NOT say that every Violation leads to a ban!!!
     
    Look above. Furthermore, i didn't say they were banned because XXX. That is just your Interpretation.
     Yes, because of the Violation of the ToS. But that this leads to a ban has to be stated somewhere and i was looking for that.
     I'm pretty sure I read in the link posted that they will apply whatever punishment they see fit for the violation. There are multiple punishments, and any of them can be applied if you violate the ToS. There is no Violation - Punishment list for you consult. They tell you that they will apply a punishment according to what they think is correct for the situation. You already know what the punishments can be. Any violation can be chosen to incur in a ban.
     Well, the way i read it a warning is the Standard punishment. A ban is only used in certain cases and since they list serveral cases i assume that violations against other rules doesn't lead to a ban. However, it is vage and legally they might be right. But i think that is not customer-friendly at all. A permanent ban is a big punishment and they should be more transparent about when they ban and when not. If they mention paragraphs whose Violation leads to a ban, then it kind of implies that a Violation against other paragraphs should lead to the Standard punishment, a warning. That is really confusing and considering the consequences it a bad policy. Especially, since many People do not read the ToS (as you can see here in the Thread).
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from OldKeith >>

    Why even have 6 accounts in the first place?

     Why so many accounts? I had once an account with a full Collection. I quit HS then because HS was more about completing the Collection than actually playing the game. After quitting i missed playing the game itself and i just wanted to do that without starting to collect all Cards again. Since i had to start from the beginning i didn't want to grind all over again to have a good Collection to Play common decks. And i didn't want to risk to be trapped in the Card Collection Thing. So multiple accounts seemed the solution. With each account i would have focused on a certain archetype or class. Therefore, the Progress would be much faster. After a good month i had a quest rogue with only 4 Cards missing on one account, a taunt warrior with 3-5 Cards missing on another account and a Lyra Priest on another. At the same time the "Collection" would have been split among multiple accounts, so every account itself wouldn't have had a good Collection so i wouldn't get too much into the Collection Thing again. That were the initial thoughts on that.
    But it did had some more Advantages: You open way more packs. You can always Play Arena. You can play two Arena simultaneously. And you can finish the quests by playing against your own accounts, which is way faster and less frustrating. Finishing all three quests for each account just took 1 - 1,5 hour.
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    You were somehow using these accounts to play each other or something I bet. Taking advantage of the 80g quests?

    Six accounts are not enough to really take Advantage of that. Yes, i usually did the quest with the most developed account, but that was not my initial thought and it didn't make a big difference, because the occurance rate of that quest isn't really high. Also, i played with all accounts frequently and they were not only there to search for the 80 Gold quest.
    Quote from QFireball >>

    why do you have 6 accouns? 2 or 3 i would understand but six???? probaly blizz thout you are going to sell them or something thats why the ban

     See above for the reasons. Just to Play it to sell it, isn't a good deal, anyway :)
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from Horkinger >>
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    I didn't found that. Could you please tell me where it is written?

     Item 10.B in combination with 1.A
    They are very unspecific so they can basically do what they want, at least according to their EULA. I actually don't know whether you could sue them and win in court, but I doubt the hassle is worth it. It's probably cheaper to throw the Money into a new account, if you want to play this game in the future. Or just go and Play Gwent or Elder Scrolls: Legends
     Thanks for the answer. Finally, someone how gets my question :) I think you are talking about 9.B and not 10.B, right? Well, i read that too and because of that i really don't know why they banned it, because my case is not listed in the list that causes bans. But you are right, they are really vage about it. Therefore i think the should at least justify it, but i didn't get any Details about it. 
    I am really not too mad about lossing the accounts. They weren't that good developed and there was a reason why i stoped playing HS in the first place. So i won't take any Actions on that matter. Just annoyed how Blizzard is handling the Situation. 
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    Jul 6, 2017
    DynamischerDiskord posted a message on Banned from hearthstone because of multiple accounts?
    Quote from Belloc >>
    Quote from DynamischerDiskord >>

    I didn't found that. Could you please tell me where it is written?

     What other kind of punishment would you expect for violating the terms of service? Bans are the punishment... that should be common sense. You don't need to have it spelled out for you.
    Because any Violation is as bad as any other, right? And proportionality is not important, right? Bans are not the only punishment. It is even written in the ToS. They can also warn People. And their could be other ways to punish People as well, like temporal bans. From your logic your account can be banned even if you move and don't update your personal data. Do you think a ban would be justified in that case? I don't think so. But you don't get the main Point: Blizzard doesn't only have rights, they also have duties. They can't just randomly ban accounts. There must be a rule about that and that must be stated somewhere. And I was asking where it is stated. The ToS does NOT say that every Violation leads to a ban!!!
     
    Quote from gabugga >>

    "My accounts were banned because XXX"

    "Why were my accounts banned"

    Look above. Furthermore, i didn't say they were banned because XXX. That is just your Interpretation.
    Quote from Oma >>
    Quote from QFireball >>

    why do you have 6 accouns? 2 or 3 i would understand but six???? probaly blizz thout you are going to sell them or something thats why the ban

     They did not ban because "they thought you are going to..."s. They banned because of violation of ToS, that's clear.
     Yes, because of the Violation of the ToS. But that this leads to a ban has to be stated somewhere and i was looking for that.
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