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I got Millhouse out of a Silvermoon Portal yesterday. Not only did it bring back fond Shredder memories, but it probably won me the game....
Does he get a break because he's horrid when played from hand but just bananas when you get him in play some other way?
Oh and I can't believe Anomalus isn't in the discussion somewhere.
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Except for that really bizarre week where everyone was doing that Nozdormu/Brewmaster exploit that caused you to borderline instawin...
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EGG DROOD IS BACK! i got answer on my question is possible to use runic egg and now i see its possible
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I don't know, I love egg druid, but this feels like the wrong meta for it. I went 1-4 with it, against Warrior, Mage with plentiful board clear, and Super-heal Paladins, Soul of the forest helps, but only so much. My one win against a Mage really felt more like luck than anything else.
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( 10 ) Majordomo Executus
( 9 ) Cho'gall
( 8 ) Gruul
( 7 ) Bolvar Fordragon
( 6 ) Mogor the Ogre
( 5 ) Anomalus
( 4 ) Nozdormu
( 3) Lorewalker Cho
( 2 ) Mimiron`s Head
( 1 ) Gelbin Mekkatorque
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How is Volajz not on any of these lists? Or Anamolus? Oh that's right. They are so bad everyone forgot about them.
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Quote from DontFeedtheEmu >>First off Moroes doesn't belong on that list. He is not great but he is ok. He is playable and there are enough unplayable Legendaries in Hearthstone to make a list of 10.
Nat Pagle, doesn't see play after he got nerfed, but he used to see a lot of play. Enough to get nerfed. I still don't think he is that horrific if the meta ever slows down enough to play him again.
10.) Bolf Ramshield. He did shine in one specific Taven Brawl but in constructed this guy turned out to have the text "Kill this minion for free by hitting the face"
9.) Mimiron's Head. It does have some value because it is cool. But it is basically the mech version of Blood of the Ancient one. Pulling the combo off is just not going to happen very often.
8.) Skeleton Knight. Yah, it's pretty terrible. Not a very strong play and it's one redeeming ability is a coin flip.
7.) The Beast. If you every though "if only Anub'ark gave the opponent a minion..."
6.) Boogeymonster. I don't understand why this card was made. You don't understand why. Blizzard prolly doesn't even know why.
5.) Hemet Nessingway. The game he hunted simply wasn't Big enough. lol
4.) Shifter Zerus. Everyone wanted him to work. He wasn't dismissed outright he praised as genius card design. Sadly, he just didn't work.
The top three. These are legendaries that are not only bad. They actively help your opposed win the game. In pretty significant ways.
3.) Nat, The Dark Fisher. Your fishing for the wrong team buddy...
2.) Major Domo Executus. There was a Mage deck that ran this with limited success. For the most part card text reads "Set opponents health 8 win game next turn."
1.) Millhouse Manastorm. There is a special place in my heart for this guy. First legendary I ever got and he taught me a valuable lesson about the game when I lost on turn 2 against a Mage. No other Legendary in the game comes close to having the devastatingly bad effect of Millhouse Manastorm.
honourable mentions to: Herold Volasjz, Bolivar Fordragon, Flame Leviathan, Lore Walker Cho, Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Anomalus, For Reaper 4000, Gruul, Mogor the Ogre, The Mistcaller, Wilfred Fizzlebang, and Bolivar Fordragon
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Dream's Curator Zoo Druid
Token Druid Deck
by Dreams4Lyfe - Aug 28, 2016
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Questions and suggestions? Having some success on ladder with it and i have yet to find a direct counter to it. Its weakest match up may be Mage though even thought its not too bad of a match up. If you can play it and try it out before you give you criticism that would be appreciated, I say this because Menagerie Magician is pretty underrated and most people take one look at the card and say NO. Hope you like it!
Deck plays pretty aggressively but Curator and the removal give a mid range feel i guess. Enjoy
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Nice deck. Your board is almost always full and putting pressure.
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Like I said "You can choose not to believe it. You can make what ever excuses for the numbers you want. Those are the numbers. You can choose to believe that 37% representation of one deck at top tier is not harmful for the game, I'm pretty sure it is, but you can choose to think that is not true. You choose to think that there doesn't need to be viable control decks. That control players just shouldn't play Hearthstone if that is there favorite archetype or should learn to really like warrior. You choose to believe anything you want dood. That the Earth is flat, and gravity makes things go up.
Those are the numbers. That is the state of the game. I don't think how someone plays the deck changes the numbers. I am pretty sure that is not how numbers work. You can choose to believe the amount Shaman decks changes based on how you think Lifecoach plays the deck. Trump says his net worth changes based on how he feels that is just how math works now I guess. I don't think you know how to play the game better then Lifecoach. Again I can only point out these things to you. I can not force to believe this things if you absolutely choose not to believe them.
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If you simply refuse to believe that Aggro Shaman is that high of a percentage of decks at the top tier I understand how you can make an argument that this specific deck isn't unhealthy for the meta. Your wrong about the number and should accept that it is. Of course were not talking about Midrange or Control Shaman, those decks are not a problem, and if you think Bog Champ or even Midrange are the reason, or are really represented by that number, which is just at the super high ranks: 5+ your delusional.
Does it matter what deck is stronger then Control. The fact is there are no tier one control decks. Going all the way to tier 3 there are 5 out of 20-somthing viable decks that are control. That is a problem. Again you can choose not to see that as a problem becasue you don't like long games or whatever. As a game with a wide audience I think the goal on balance, the balance we should demand as a community is one where you can play whatever style you like, and have more then 5 options that have little to no chance of reaching 5+ ranks much less legend.
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Really? Aggro Shaman does not represent aggro? The deck that is literally named AGGRO Shaman to you does not represent aggro.
There is a problem. It is not as strong as Face Hunter or Secret Paladin but it is in standard.
I know Aggro Shaman is a HUGE problem we should not get over because it makes up 37% of the decks below rank 5. 37% that is HUGE problem. That means this deck is way, WAY unbalanced compared to the other decks in the meta.
In Standard, according to Tempo Storm.
Tier 1
There are 0 Control Decks of 5
Tier 2
There are 3 Control decks of 9 (representing only two classes)
Tier 3
There are, and I am being generous with Freeze Mage, 3 Control decks of 12
Its not that, not everyone wants to play stall-get over it, It is that you CAN NOT CURRENTLY IN HEARTHSTONE PLAY A CONTROL DECK AT TOP TIERS!
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Your Engli
Your friend who corrects your grammar constantly on Facebook is being an asshole and you should prolly cut them off.
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Stop caring about your win rate so much.
The high tier of HS is Aggro. If you play a shit ton of Aggro you will get good at it and you will reach the higher tiers. Since you like making Homebrew decks, Midrange and Control. You will also hate the game, probably hate yourself, and want to face smash your self into the nearest hard object out of sheer boredom.
I mostly play home-brew decks as well, but when one does REALLY bad I need some cheap easy wins to cleanse the pallet, and grab an Aggro deck. I'm at low ranks so the wins come very cheap and easy once your using a deck that a.) is Aggro which is simply a stronger archetype in HS right now then Control (baring maybe Warrior) b.) has been refined by 100s of pro players over the course of months to years depending on the deck.
Thing is I do this to remind myself of one thing. I like playing the game more then I care about my win rate. I like making decisions, I like making decks, I like feeling like my plays and card choices mattered when I win, and figuring out to do it better when I lose. Aggro decks require you to know when to trade (the answer turn 1-3 or turn 1-5) and when to face (the answer is literally every other turn) That is some input, but its pretty minimal. Play aggro straight for like 50 games or so I'm sure you will get it down 100% and turn yourself into a play bot if thats what your after. I don't think it is.
So my advice, say fuck it. Let the try hards bash each other faces over over again, playing the same deck that requires minimal player input 100s of time until they reach legend and ENJOY THE GAME.
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It is a very complex problem. Why can't you win on ladder there are a ton of factors.
These you can improve
1.) Misplays by you
2.) A fundamentally flawed deck that could be tightened up and made to work
3.) A deck that doesn't properly take into account the current meta and needs to be tech'd against it
These you can't improve
4.) Netdecking it is hard to compete against decks that are being refined by 100s of players and pros over a long period of time
5.) Class imbalance. The classes in Hearthstone are just not balanced not all classes are equal that is a fact of the game
6.) Deck type imbalance. All deck types are not as strong. Aggro is currently simply stronger in HS then Control is
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My last deck I tried to build failed pretty hard.
When that happens I need to cleanse my pallet with some cheap and easy wins.
I grab one of the top tier decks get some cheap wins and then go back to creating more interesting decks and trying to make cool ideas and oddball card combos work.
I just won five games in a row running an Aggro Shaman, and I think I'm good. On another note though I don't understand how you can play this deck over and over again. You almost never have to make an decisions. You mulligan for Tunnel Trogg, after that the deck just played itself.
Are you watching TV or Netflix while you play this?
I honestly don't understand how you can play hundreds of games with such an autopilot deck without going completely comatose. Maybe, that does happen. Maybe there is just someone who comes by and cleans up all the Aggro Shaman players who have turned into broccoli and turn them into Soylant Green.
Honestly, how do you this? Why do you do this? lol Do you really only care that much about win rate that you have no desire to experience the game at all. This deck is the hearthstone equivalent of being on all the Vicodin all the time.
Ok, rant over.
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Alright. So I always meant to get back to this thread when I got my validations. I got a lot of heat for calling this overrated after playing like 10 or so games the day it came out. I feel most of the time, unless your completely doing the wrong build you can tell pretty quick if a card is OP or just ok if your reasonably smart or stupid and just play a lot of hearthstone. Im probably the second but anyway now I can officially say I called it and anyone who thinks I called it too early can suck my salty balls cus I called the shit out of it.
Top decks just posted a thread about the most overrated and most underrated cards of Karazhan.
#1 most overrated card: Menagerie Warden
#2 most underrated card: The Curator
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lol. That is a good point. That is why Handlock got knocked off by Renolock pre Standard. Even a turn 4 Mountain Giant, if you don't have any plays before it is too slow.
This deck can suffer from the same problem, but you have a bit more Early options then Handlock did, backstab, eviscerate, swashburgler, and the 2/2 give you a card.
You do rely a bit on getting good cards of the random effect. A lot of classes have better board clears and better heals then Rogue, so it usually works out in your favor.
I think I might need more heal? I'm not sure feels relatively tight as a list honestly
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I think that is really a tip for life.
Whether your talking about arena in Hearthstone or a gang bang in Daytona Florida always go first.