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    posted a message on Building N'zoth paladin
    Quote from Th3D1rtSt4R >>

    I think people are trying to hard to get max bodies with N'Zoth, the Corruptor instead of using him to simply outlast an opponent through solid attrition. Cards like Corrupted Healbot and Twilight Summoner are only good if you are on par with your opponent or ahead. They are trash from behind and kind of just win-more by the time you get N'Zoth, the Corruptor off with max value. You really only need the N'Zoth trigger to bring back your legendary minions to generally secure a win, which means that your trash Deathrattle cards are kind of just unecessary.

    I like thinking of N'Zoth, the Corruptor decks as control decks looking to just reanimate your legendary minions and get value out of everything else beforehand.[snip]

     

     I agree with everything you said except the bit about Doomsayer not working; Doomsayer always does something, whether it's 2 mana: restore 7 life (or armor, if you're still at full health), 2 mana: wipe the board and make your opponent waste mana (ideal) or 2 mana: Save Tirion/Sylvanas/insert deathrattle minion here from a silence. Meanwhile loot hoarder either gets pinged or murdered for free by a 2/3 minion on turn 2. Sure, you get a card, but Doomsayer is a powerful tool if you don't mind not getting the ideal outcome every time. Hell, sometimes it even takes a burn spell, which is actually almost as good as killing a minion. Control decks aren't meant to "put decent stats on board", you're meant to clear their board and heal afterwards.  Turn 5 is often too late to get that 7 health back, especially in matchups where you're even likely to get the heal at all. I still run 2 Tuskarrs, but not in place of Doomsayers.
    I agree about the trend of people trying to get too many deathrattle minions from N'Zoth though. Corrupted Healbot and Twilight Summoners are just not right for a control deck. Maybe midrange, not control. Neither is C'thun, C'thun is actually just a slow midrange deck, not control, and trying to fit that into a N'Zoth control paladin shell just makes a whole lotta nothing that doesn't do anything quite well enough to win. C'thun won't get huge like it does in Druid, N'Zoth doesn't spawn a full board, and the control aspect doesn't get enough removal/healing to survive. Personally, I play a Healadin with N'Zoth as a value card rather than a finisher (aside from enemies who concede from the sheer amount of value I just got). No need to have 30 damage on board after N'Zoth when I'll probably never run out of healing.
    Sorry for the long probably-ramble, and trust me, I did take what you said with a grain of salt (it seems like you're wanting to make a slow midrange paladin with more on-curve C'thun minions rather than pure healing/wiping control, which is fine), I just don't feel that that's the direction the deck needs to go to be successful in the meta. Paladin didn't get much C'Thun synergy.
    Edit: clarified some things to sound the least rude possible, I really want to keep this civil, this thread has some great discussion on it
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    posted a message on So How Many Legends Do You Have?

    I was originally going to write out all my legendaries in order of unpacking but then I realized that I don't remember. All I remember is that my first legendary was Leeroy Jenkins and my second was Alexstrasza, and my third was a golden Tirion Fordring. My most recent is a Gold Ragnaros, Lightlord, second most recent was a N'Zoth and third most recent (in between bunches of WoTOG packs) was Archmage Antonidas.

    Other than my crappy "Alexstrasza then Leeroy+Blessing of Kings them to death" midrange noob paladin, I can't remember much. I remember being infuriated by mages on a daily basis, with their flamestrikes and polymorphs and fireball lethals.

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    posted a message on Sigma's TOP 10 WOG cards analysis feat. Nicslay, J4CKIECHAN, Ness and FalconePunch

    I was really surprised that a terrible Basic card like Sinister Strike would make the honorable mentions of a top 10 list for an expansion. 

    In all seriousness though, Shaman's totally crazy now and it's all because they got a Dr. 4 and a Dr. 2 that cleans up its mess perfectly. 

    Ragnaros, Lightlord has been performing well for me as well, far better than his more fiery brother, although I could see myself including both in a deck.

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    posted a message on [UPDATED] MarkW's Anti-C'Thun Rogue

    Absolutely destroys other rogues who try to use their weapons as removal. Heh. Milling a Twin Emperor Vek'lor when I'd just shadowstepped Leeroy and reduced him to 1 HP was definitely a highlight as well.

    Posted in: [UPDATED] MarkW's Anti-C'Thun Rogue
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    posted a message on 10k dust, which cards should I craft ?

    Definitely craft N'Zoth and Rag, Malygos if you want to build that kind of deck, Deathwing will probably be good for dragon decks but hold back on that for now. If you like control shaman or non-C'thun Druid then Hallazeal or Fandral might be good for you too, but again hold back to wait for the meta.

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    posted a message on Help me not lose. F- RNG!!!

    If you really want a rogue deck with C'thun in it, replace the frostwolf grunts with Beckoner of Evils.

    Personally, I'd say playing a different class might be best.

    Posted in: General Deck Building
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    posted a message on Memories of 'old' hearthstone

    I miss Quartermaster. He'd make that midrange divine shield paladin so strong, especially with Stand Against Darkness. 5 3/3s with Divine Shield? That deck would become the definition of win more.

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    posted a message on Ragnaros, Lightlord

    I guess his name has the comma because otherwise it would be too confusing since "Ragnaros the Firelord" and "Ragnaros the Lightlord" are 66% identical while "Ragnaros the Firelord" and "Ragnaros, Lightlord" are only 50% identical.

    This is a name coming from the devs that brought us "more deck slots would confuse people", and while I may be being too cynical, it's always worth appearing as a jerk to spread the "Blizzard thinks we're dumb" meme.

    Posted in: Ragnaros, Lightlord
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    posted a message on The final days...

    RIP Quartermaster, you will be missed.

    Posted in: General Discussion
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    posted a message on Poll: How good do you think you are at playing Hearthstone?

    5-6 in Constructed since I rarely care about it, 7-8 in Arena because that's where I spend my game time and have gotten good at being lucky, and 10 in Tavern Brawl, where there are no misplays, only hilarious BM.

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