5th try. I didn't use Equality, cause there was no need on 5th run... my good start (2 mini-bots+Muster for Battle+uldaman). And he wiped his board with new 'enter the coliseum'. Got some Heal. turn 8 Tirion, later Kel'Thuzadsealed the game.
And how does that one work with something like sacred trial (and 4th on board)/repentance/mirror entity? will be destroyed after battlecry/down to 1 hp and then gain its +1/full copy? Or what?
What do you think of Deathwing, speaking of neutral removal that stays on the board itself? Yes it can be BGH'ed, but is that fact alone what makes DW balanced? Because it will be BGH'ed every once in a while?
Well, Discard effect and manacost in some way balance it. Your opponent can play deathrattle minions beforehand, after - taunts (Annoy-o-tron vs DW), freeze DW to slow it, or use one of plenty ways: target-removal spells (assassinate, sabotage, polymorphs, hex, entomb, mulch, mind control, SW:Death, Deadly shot, Crush, Siphon Soul, etc.), mass-removals with downsides like Lightbomb, Twisting Nether, or combination (equality+activator, activator+execute...). Or aldor, uldaman...
Strong, but to single body you can react, when your hand isn't empty.
But what if you play something w/o immediate value (like battlecry) for 7+ mana/7+ attack? Your opponent - 3 mana for body 4/2, 0 mana for removal, AND have some mana in stock to play other cards. GG.
But BGH provides pretty crazy tempo swing, Enemy played Dr.Boom on turn 10? BGH+my Dr. Boom. He should be more like mid/late game (6 cost, 6/2 stats?)... I cannot bear thoughts about reducing his attack stats, he should be 'mighty' (and fit his battlecry).
p.s. 7 cost, 7/2. BGH "I have a BGH in my sight" eeh, craziness)
Also as a side note, I ended up arguing with them about lightbomb. They are convinced its super OP. I don't really think so. It's good. Very good. But not super OP.
My newbie's point of view:
(that's some EngRish, take care of your eyes and sense of grammar)
Control priest: I may hate CP, because I want to play vs his minions, not mine?) He stole my minion - that's cool and all. But... 2 Cabals (from mini-bot to Ysera), 2 entombs (my midrange deck contains only 2 legendaries for mid-game? Nah, say good-bye). 30-4=26 cards for me, 30+2 (each Cabal+1)=32 for him -> what if i don't have answer to my own minion, which was 1 of my main win-conditions? CW kills my minions, priests use them as a threat against me(
Because priests have up to 4 different AOEs (not all in 1 deck, but 2 LB+something of ex.evil/circle+auchenai/holy nova quite enough for early and late game threaths)->prevent my board from overextending, BUT at the same time they keep healing (damn, +4 heal for 2 mana... covers attack of my average 3-4 drop, but lesser heal cover 2 attack minion (1-2 mana drops), upgraded hero power should be "heal/armor (CW) for 3" (attacl value for 2-3 mana drops)) and use their buffed taunts->that renders my board with 2-3 minions (not overextending!) almost useless. Overextended? 1 AOE for all of them, my deck melts priest have card advantage+elise for some late-game...
And the most fun part, when CP hits its mana-curve, like zombie, coin+2-8 taunt, velens, then heal+some museum's curator or elise amd so on... Well, that's some board, i had games, when they manage to kill me before turn 8... And they even have auchenai+flash heal+hero power for some burst.
So, i need some real burst/combo against CP. I cannot play another decks w/ good win. chances, when face too many priests (rare event, but happens)...
Dragon priests: Well, that a rare deck and quite good one versus aggro. When they use only 1 LB and 1 Entomb - good, i don't hate that archetype.
Combo priest: High health minions. double health+inner fire/other activators - bwah, stupid one, but i cannot even remember, when i saw it last time ) Prophet Velen+Alex+2 mind blast - well... they manage to live and pull the combo for lethal - good for them, otherwise - gg) Want to try in future for some fun (Alex, where y u), but i can understand hate of that combo)
Lightbomb is scary one, because it fears only bubble/deathrattle (+minions on board have attack=>hp, after trades at least, when priest's minion have attack<=hp in general, or easy LB w/o real board), but not that OP (only for opponent's side - that would be OP).
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Just so-so...
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5th try. I didn't use Equality, cause there was no need on 5th run... my good start (2 mini-bots+Muster for Battle+uldaman). And he wiped his board with new 'enter the coliseum'. Got some Heal. turn 8 Tirion, later Kel'Thuzad sealed the game.
swaps: 1x bgh& 1x doomsayer->2x Keeper of Uldaman; 1x Quartermaster -> 2nd Antique Healbot
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Hm, only for combo...
Prophet Velen+2xMind Blast+Embrace the Shadow+Flash Heal+Flash heal=40 dmg for 9 mana? After one Thaurissan's discount.
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3 times Pyroblast to owner's face for the win!
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Oh, so I can expect some trolden-moments with 3 pyroblasts to caster's face +transform Yoggy into sheep+assassinate himself....
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So, it's better Malorne (cost+growth), and epic on top of that... Silence/stealing or face-rash can counter it, Well, legendary, +2 attack - maybe...
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It looks good
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Like "You! You! Give me warm, give me soft!", and than "Me smash!" MY face with MY card(
Oh, I hate stealing... from me :p
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And how does that one work with something like sacred trial (and 4th on board)/repentance/mirror entity? will be destroyed after battlecry/down to 1 hp and then gain its +1/full copy? Or what?
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And polymorph provides you body 4/2? Nope. Rend Blackhand is crappy in comparison with BGH in some ways...
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But BGH provides pretty crazy tempo swing, Enemy played Dr.Boom on turn 10? BGH+my Dr. Boom. He should be more like mid/late game (6 cost, 6/2 stats?)... I cannot bear thoughts about reducing his attack stats, he should be 'mighty' (and fit his battlecry).
p.s. 7 cost, 7/2. BGH "I have a BGH in my sight" eeh, craziness)
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Same here...
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I may hate CP, because I want to play vs his minions, not mine?) He stole my minion - that's cool and all. But... 2 Cabals (from mini-bot to Ysera), 2 entombs (my midrange deck contains only 2 legendaries for mid-game? Nah, say good-bye). 30-4=26 cards for me, 30+2 (each Cabal+1)=32 for him -> what if i don't have answer to my own minion, which was 1 of my main win-conditions?
CW kills my minions, priests use them as a threat against me(
Overextended? 1 AOE for all of them, my deck melts priest have card advantage+elise for some late-game...
Well, that a rare deck and quite good one versus aggro. When they use only 1 LB and 1 Entomb - good, i don't hate that archetype.
High health minions. double health+inner fire/other activators - bwah, stupid one, but i cannot even remember, when i saw it last time )
Prophet Velen+Alex+2 mind blast - well... they manage to live and pull the combo for lethal - good for them, otherwise - gg) Want to try in future for some fun (Alex, where y u), but i can understand hate of that combo)