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    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks

    You don't know how to speak English.

    Damn, gottem. Randomly saying things out of context will surely make them true.

     

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  • -3

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks
    Quote from The_Quicksand >>

    You're close, it's only been like 2 decades since I've last been to high school. It's just my degrees had a whole lot of probability and statistics courses and then courses that used what we learned in those statistics courses, so I have just a tad of knowledge of how statistics works. Not that you have to go through all those courses to understand that a sample of 1 is worth even less than an educated guess. 10k games is infinitely more reliable. But you're right , of course, the first day says nothing.

    Well, except that:

    1) If people at that specific time did well with aggro (which Zoo isn't, FYI, but that's beside the point), and you played Zoo at the same time, how come they got such a high winrate and you didn't? 

    2) Right now, almost a week after the launch, the top12 (just the first page, I saw no reason to go beyond it) warlocks decks are all Zoo, ranging from 56-66% winrate. The fact mine is higher says nothing just like yours that was lower, the fact is I'm willing to admit that, and your inability of letting facts confuse you or dissuade you from your single opinion, is what makes this argument so long.

    You're quite free to assume like me and some other people questioned your 40-50 games in a day, to question my 10 game win streak over 2 days (which is far, far more likely). If I'm lying, though, why are you still arguing? What does it matter what I say, if all I'm saying are lies?

     Zoo plays exactly the same as any aggro deck when played against control decks, which are usually the new decks being tested with at the start of the expansion, just about no deck other than murlocs make zoo play like an actual board control deck, and murlocs beat the hell out of zoo anyways. Top 12 warlock decks being zoo don't really mean much aside from warlock being bad this expansion. Winrate statistics mean nothing either considering only the statistics of the ones using whatever program that tracks your winrate are recorded, and even then what is going to measure that what you're playing is a zoo deck? It's like heartharena statistics, doesn't matter how large the pool is when there are a ton of people not using it and not providing data. The only reasonable place you can get reliable information is from a large number streamers demonstrating a large number of games where they are actively winning against meta decks. The fact that no popular streamer has played the deck so far isn't proof, but it's an indication for sure.

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  • 0

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks

    Since you're going to high school right now, judging by how much you get off to mentioning it, are they not teaching you that you can prove whatever you want with statistics and that they are incredibly unreliable, especially when done by people you've never even heard of? There's absolutely no difference between you lying about your success across 10 games and some site scanning 10k games in a specific time period where aggro decks can easily be successful (at what rank, btw?) considering the expansion just launched and everyone was trying goofy stuff. It's common sense to not trust any statistics that come from the first few days of a new expansion launch.

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  • -1

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks

    You disbelieving that I actually played 40 games of Hearthstone is on the level of me disbelieving that you understand English.

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  • -3

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks
    Quote from The_Quicksand >>

    I know it's hard for you to understand, it's high school statistics, after all, but even if you yourself played 10,000 games and lost them all, and no one else in the entire game played it, one man can never be counted as any valuable statistic.

    It just means Zoo isn't for you, you actually have to learn how to play it, and with murlocs you usually just have to get an angler or tidecaller in your opening hand against most decks. But hey, whatever works for you.

    I don't know what the rank 19 meta is, haven't been there is months, but it just might be it's populated by people who designed their decks to counter Zoo... I guess there's not way to know, unless there was a site that propagated statistics on tens of thousands of games.

     "Zoo isn't for you" Lmao I've played just about every zoo variation the game has seen and succeeded with most of them. You could've also found this out by reading what I said instead of just spamming your own nonsense without reading any responses.

    "One man can never be counted as any valuable statistic" So can two men be counted as valuable statistics? Because if n+1 people aren't a valuable statistic, then no amount of people are.

     

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  • 0

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks
    Quote from davidwizard >>

    Also: I call total BS on your "40-50 games" - you're saying you've spent about 8 hours solid playing the same "unsuccessful" deck over less than than 3 days? Why on earth would you do that? Obvious lie is obvious.

    Because I made my own version when the expansion started and didn't ragequit instantly when it didn't work(who the hell even does that?), and instead changed cards around trying to make it work? It was practically the same deck as the one above but with soulfires instead of abusive sergeants (which won half the games since it lacks any way to get past taunts) for the second half of my games, but it took a while before I could reliably say that I wasn't just unlucky and the deck was super inconsistent and not that good even when you got lucky.

    Edit:And I have no idea where you got "8 hours" from when a deck like this wins or loses in 5 minutes on average.

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  • 0

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    Yeah, clearly it's much more likely that I have forgotten how to play after getting legend with a variety of archetypes including the one we are talking about, and that it's just me having a 20% winrate with this "amazing deck" with no win conditions, no direct damage, no minions that can reliably stay on the board, and no way of actually winning the board without committing so many weak 1 mana resources that 1 AOE will leave you without a board and hand. It's not like murlocs do everything this deck does but 10 times better and more reliably. It's also just a coincidence that I went to rank 10 without a single loss as soon as I switched to murlocs.

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  • -2

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks

    Yeah, "playing since beta" heavily implies I'm not retarded when playing a zoo deck, an archetype that has existed since beta. And 10000 random matches during the first day before anyone figured out what the hell they were doing doesn't really qualify as accurate data considering everyone was experimenting with random crap.

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  • 0

    posted a message on Highest Performing Rise of Shadows Decks

    Yeah not being able to rank past level 19 over 40-50 games with this deck when I've been playing this game since beta kinda qualifies as accurate data to me.

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