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I'm not sure if I understand this. Do they not test their brawls at all?
If you don't play 2 cards per turn, you'll quickly end up with 10 cards and you can't even pick your own cards anymore. At that point your cards are 100% decided by your opponent.
I don't know if the card selection pool is random, but I've seen way too many purposely useless cards, like Tip the Scales.
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Could have been a good brawl if they actually thought about it for a second. Now it's endless turns of "My hand is too full!". Apparently they don't play test their brawls.
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no hall of fame = no free dust.
small indie company needs other money from us
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One thing we can be sure of: the "changes" will cost the players a small fortune. LUL
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Huge variance, abysmal in terms of fun... So much milling, so many DHs because of the cheap cards to try and vaguiely empty your hand. Still guaranteed to be milling by turn 5. Design team just failed hard this time, IMO. The choose one is basically 'give your opp one of these cards, burn the other' in lategame. Fun. Can't see an argument for this being even vaguely well designed.
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One of the worse brawls ever
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Directed to Blizzard -->
"Cooled down greetings to my longtime favourite games-forge,
I am a German Blizzard fan for over 20 years now (still no good English - sorry °_°).
Since 1998 I played Starcraft and later was one of the influential mass and semi-pro gamers for WarCraft 3 (even 2on2 2nd National Team).
I did not play WoW much (need this 1on1 competetive style), but I liked Overwatch, loved StarCraft 2's epic story and playstyle (anyhow only master league with race random) and until now I paid at least 2000$ for Hearthstone with over 16k games done.
Blizzard was always an island for me.
A place of fantasy, competition, friendship and freedom.
A place like the real world should be in many ways.
It started to crush a bit, as Vivendi bought Blizzard.
There were many little steps, where the true root spirit was damaged in some ways sometimes.
But in the case Blitzchung there is a frontier, that cannot be stepped over.
It’s a chimera, that you think, that the problems of real live has not to affect the game.
We cant’t live and play in a spirit of freedom, when you act in this way.
Sure he had broken the rules… but for what reason?
Isn’t there a reason whey there are rules?
The meta reason is to guarantee a free and enjoyable enviroment.
Blitzchung protested against forces, that want to destroy this spirit of freedom and free speech and you Blizzard kill him for that like Grommash Hellscream tortured Mannoroth the Destructor.
That is simply wrong.
Blitzchung is no demon - he behaved like we all should at the turn of the tides.
Even now with the reduction of the penalty to “just” 6 (instead of 12) month and giving him his tournament money back, you showed no attitude to honor a brave heart who stands in for freedom of speech and a protest for human rights.
Right now in my country everything also collapses - I am a resistance fighter under an every day more totalitary system, which wants to control all German people by censorship, tax slavery, political correctness and pseudomoral laws (truely hypocrits everywhere) - destroying german industry and freedom (which was never given since Versaillies 1919) and primary killing the Spirit of ‘Schiller’ it seems as main goal with a lot of pure lies.
I cannot proceed even paying you for this behaviour - you as big company have a responsibility, when you remember your root spirit/goals.
If I as player and part of a great community accept/tolerate your behaviour, other companies will act as long arm of lobbyists/oligarchs too and think they can create just gamerzombies, who forget, what this world is all about and for what it is a passion and reasonable to fight.
Ask yourself if you love a community more, that withstands the torture of human rights or just being some ghuls without any vision to live and love for.
I expect a statemet of you at the latest to BlizzCon, that in regards to the great spirit of you community you “free” Blitzchung as a fighter for freedom, like we all should be.
Otherwise I will stop paying any more money for this company, which just seem to be a system w.h.o.r.e like so many others to money and power of politicians/lobbyists.
Your lobby are your gamers.
You spirit is (was?) freedom!
Act so!"
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If your rules forbid me from saying "Liberate Hong Kong. Revolution of our age", sorry sir, but stick them up in your ass. Rules are human made and it doesn't mean they are just.
If blitzchung said something like " Liberate Tanzania" nothing would have happened, we all know it. It's not about politics or any other shit, it's all about China's interests ( or any other country if Blizzard makes money in there )
So Blizzard, you and your rules can go to hell.
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The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision.
Yeah. Ok.
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Today we try to determine the most popular set in Standard mode, and try to disprove the myth that Classic Packs are the best choice for new players. To do this, we collected a huge amount of statistics and carried out special calculations. Also, we will announce the results of a large-scale Packs Value Experiment. As you all know, there is no universal advice on choosing a set to buy. There are many different factors that are significant. Only you can make the right decision, but we can help you find packs with the best cards and maximum profit. So which sets have the most value? Let's talk about each set in more detail.
Traditionally, we will start with the basic cards. Basic cards always have a stable share of presence in the meta-game; from 12 to 15%. Nerfs, new expansions, or rotations generally have no effect on this. In general, 42% of all basic cards are used in the Meta game.Here are the top 8 most popular cards. Each class has several very strong cards that are a solid foundation for the game, but the Rogue uses basic cards more often.
Witchwood − 7.4% (47\129) Legendary Popularity - 6%,
Cards played - 36%, Pack Benefit - 32%.
Now let's talk about the worst set. Unfortunately this is The Witchwood. This set has never had a global influence on the meta-game. After its release, it occupied only 15% of the popular decks. Subsequently, the cards were used less and less with each new nerf and new set. The only exceptions are two legendary cards, which had an incredible negative impact on the game. Now only 7 and a half percent of the cards in popular decks come from this set. This means that a 30 card deck contains only 2 Witchwood cards. Currently 47 out of 129 cards are used by players, which is only 36% of the cards. Also, on the screen you can see the number of cards distributed by rarity. Pay attention to epic and legendary cards. It shows the number of cards that have more than 1% popularity.The popularity of all legendary cards is only 6%. This means that only every 16th legendary card in the meta-game is a card from The Witchwood. The most popular of them is Hagatha The Witch.
Surely the premature movement of very popular legendary cards such as Baku and Genn to Wild had a negative effect on this set’s statistics. The Potential Benefit of Pack for the Witchwood is only 32%.
Every video we try to give you as much useful information as possible. This time we decided to add one new indicator. This is the Potential Benefit of Pack Buying. This indicator is affected by: popularity of cards in set, drop rate of this cards, and cost in arcane dust Using this indicator as a percentage, you can imagine how many useful card you can potentially receive in one pack. So, if this indicator is 100%, then all the cards from the set are used in the meta-game and you are guaranteed to get all 5 useful cards from your pack. If this figure is 20%, then potentially only one card from the pack may be useful.
Rastakhan's − 8.0% (53\135) Legendary Popularity - 6% (10)
Cards played - 39%, Pack Benefit - 31%.
Now let's talk about another outsider.
Rastakhan's Rumble is the least impactful set of cards we’ve ever seen. The use of these cards in the meta-game has fallen from the moment of the expansion’s release, from a maximum 12% to a minimum of 8% after the Rise of Shadows release. The Potential Benefit of a Rastakhan's Pack is only 31%, this is the lowest of any set.
Classic − 27.3% (99\237) Legendary Popularity - 38% (14)
cards played - 42%, Pack Benefit - 36%.
The Classic set is the invariable main component of the game, and always was the best choice for new players. Every guide claimed this. Even our past guide is no exception. But is this really true? We should pragmatically review this issue.
In general, more than 27% of the cards in the meta-game are from the Classic Set. This figure increased significantly after the rotation. This is definitely the highest result. In other words, on average, each deck contains 8 classic cards out of 30. But we always forget that this set contains almost two times more cards than other sets. But only 99 cards out of 237 are played. So, 42% of the cards are involved in the meta. The Potential Classic Pack Benefit is only 37%. This means that potentially only every third card in packs will be useful to you. We predict that this figure will decline with the release of each new expansion this year. In addition, every year the Classic Set gradually loses some powerful cards, which are sent to the Hall of Fame.
All this does not look very valuable for new players, so what’s the benefit of the classic packs? Certainly, the main advantage of the Classic cards is that they do not rotate out of the Standard format, aside from some cards that get added to the Hall of Fame. In any case, we came to the conclusion that the need to invest resources in classic packs for new players is greatly exaggerated.
Boomsday − 21.0% (68\135) Legendary Popularity - 14% (12)
Cards played - 50%, Pack Benefit - 43%.
Next in line is Boomsday. This set has experienced the most dramatic fall after the release of Rastakhan, but after the rotation and release of Rise of Shadows, the cards from this set provoked a huge explosion in the meta. The overall popularity of the legendary cards in this set is 14%. The main place is occupied by Zilliax. This card might be the most popular card we’ve ever seen. Every second popular deck uses it. Also, you should pay attention to Dr. Boom, Mad Genius. Almost all Warrior decks use this hero card. And do not forget about Whizbang, the most unique legendary card, which definitely remains a favorite for a large number of players. Whizbang will be useful if you don’t have a large collection, or if you love fun. Besides this, 7 other Legendary cards have more than 1% popularity. The Potential Benefit of a Boomsday Pack is 43%
Rise of Shadows − 23.9% (98\135) Legendary Popularity - 35% (23)
Cards played - 73%, Pack Benefit - 62%.
And finally, in first place is the Rise of Shadows. There are several reasons why this set is the best to buy. First of all, currently 73% of the cards are involved in competitive play. The second reason is that all 23 legendary cards are used with varying popularity in meta-decks. And now for the last reason. This set has the highest Potential Benefit ratio, with a potential of almost 62%. In other words, 3 out of 5 cards in your pack may be useful.
Recommendations
So, what should players do with their resources? This is an interesting question, and we can formulate several recommendations.
If you’re new to the game, it’s worth buying up to 10 packs of every set until you get a guaranteed legendary card. Do not buy The Witchwood and Rastakhan. The best solution is to craft the necessary cards from these sets. We also do not recommend buying Classic Packs if you want to get the maximum benefit. You will get a certain number of packs for free as a reward from quests and Tavern Brawls.
At the moment, the best set to buy is Rise of Shadows, and don’t forget that the cards from this set will be relevant for two years! You can also save your resources for the next expansion, or for solo content.
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The problem has always been:
Juicy Psychmelon
Not Aviana, Not Kun, (Yes they are strong indeed and if you get the RNG perfect draw, but that happens with any deck), i feel like they don't want to admit how bad design and how big of a mistake the melon is.
Anyways not much left in this game, its closer to a coinflip with every expansion.
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MTG Arena is actually already better than HS, you actually need skill, not a coin flip game as this has become.
Cant wait for Artifact next month!
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Thanks for this thread, this informations i really useful!
Hope we can see another post with Hearhstone Maths, and that people give some love to a post so useful like this one, ive became F2P after buying all the pre-purchase expansions until un'goro where i gave up since i always hit the pity timer of 40 packs for a legendary, and ended fed up with Blizzard drying money system to their players (Playing since beta), and this kind of post helps on keeping up with collecting cards easier and at the same time be able to craft any deck basically.
Kind Regards,
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Hey,
I find interesting the idea of adding Emperor Thaurissan and Zola The Gorgon.
It would be nice a small guide of this deck!
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Druid has become an all rounded Hero, he has all types of deck and is the best at any theme.
Just a quick example:
(Druid) Branching Paths: Can gain up to 12 Armor for 4 Mana with no Downside
(Warrior) Bring it On! : Can gain 10 Armor for 2 Mana BUT reduces your opponent minions by 2 mana, thats a HUGE downside.
I don't see this fair at all, because when we look at the current state of Druid right now, we can realize that he has so many combo decks that are tier 1 or 2 just because they have too much of everything in their cairds and the archetype that can beat them which is aggro in this case does a poor job at it, since they can gain up to 20+ Armor in one turn and still put a taunt on board, and give no advantage to their opponent or having a downside, which Warrior could do the same by giving free cost minions to their opponent and still probably die to aggro.
And btw.....its not about class identity or bad desing in Warrior..... Druid just has it all and BETTER. It was my favourite class when this game started , now i just wish they just delete Druid, since they wont nerf 7-8 cards that need to be nerfed to stop limiting design space for Druid, And yes i could give reasons, details, explanations with pages of text which cards and how they could be nerfed, but we all know Druid is the favourite class of Team 5.
Have a great day!
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Yes, now Star Aligner and Toggwagle Druid completely destroyed Wild, the only format i was playing, i guess i could stand Big Priest, but now with only Turn 4-7 full combo completed (Druid with Psychmelon) and endless stall to get giant Kingsbane Rogue....definitely im closer to just quit the game for good.
I guess i have one last hope for Blizzard to fix this non sense.
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After i get my 9 golden heroes im sure i will quit, ive reached legend with my favourite archetype which is control, ive got a really big collection to make fun decks and also decks that need a brain, so after my 9 golden heroes goal is reached, and seeing how Blizzard doesnt care of a balanced game where its not always about facing aggro busted decks like the new Zoolock, the old Even Paladin, or the equally cancerous Odd Paladin, Even Shaman, Kingsbane Rogue or the new Mech Hunter that regin in Standard and Wild......not much is left in this game for me to have fun, Wild is also plagued with aids decks and that was pushed even harder after last 2 expansions, i was fine facing many Big Priest (Even if it needs a nerf in Wild), but now Wild and Standard are basically the same unfun aggro decks over and over......theres no point to play to win if you only throw everything out and steal wins out of pure braindead plays and RNG not favouring you in many of those unfun matches that are not fun or feel rewarding even if you win.
Edit: Don't forget the unbeatable Druid.....
Sad times are coming for this game, going in a downfall and thats why every game desinger is leaving.They know the '' Juice '' in hearthstone has run out.
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They've gone to far this time for a hero portrait....sad times will come soon for HS with this kind of greed + irrelevant skill level, pure RNG playing OP decks of the moment.
(Former Legend Player when skill used to be a thing).
About topic: You will get on average half of the legendaries of the set, instead of buying 2 triple AAA (65$ US each) new videogames that are coming this year with amazing graphics and gameplay.
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Yes, you can use Argent Commander or Reckless Rocketeer
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Done with LuckyFox!