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Shadowform.

They managed to fuck my favorite card up. Yes it has been unplayable for years, but why say you want to bring back Shadow Priest and nerf its symbolic card? What a bunch of morons.

 How is going from 3 to 2 mana a nerf ? Am I missing something here ?

Teeeechnically it's a nerf to Odd-Priest? Maybe?
Nah, I can't even claim that one... XDDD

 Well, I was right about Hadronox, Tickatus, Crystal Caverns and a number of other cards. If I'm wrong about this one, my track record is still good enough for me. :-)

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There seem to be a number (or at least a couple at a glance) of cards that enable you to deal a large amount of damage directly to the opponent's face (such as the new Alextrasza, or Illidari thingamybob), - well, 8 damage, to be precise, though in some cases more - which I think is concerning, but time will tell, etc. 
Dealing such a large amount to face is admittedly a good finisher and my initial thoughts were "Ooh, I love these cards!". But in hindsight, I can then see that from the other side of the board, these are going to very quickly become frustrating, I think. The same way Ragnaros was disliked for a long time.

Thaaaaaaat said, there is still the fact that there are cards which did similar that exist and don't see much play (such as the give your hero +8 attack card for Demon Hunter). But I think the core difference with the Illidari card is that it has a huge body, also has rush, and then hits the opponent's face after clearing a Taunt minion for you. So I think this is much more powerful.

 I remember reading a dev comment about replacing infinite value cards with better late game finishers, to give control decks a more old school "big game ending", rather than the grindy random parties we've had. I think you'll be happy about them if you liked classic control warrior :)

 Heh - well like I say, when I first saw the cards, I was "Woaaah! That's cool!". But it was only after considering the effect from the receiving end that I wasn't so sure. :-)

And I'm certainly trying to go into this new set with an open mind and giving it the benefit o the doubt. It's obviouslty the first time (well I guess since Naxx, and then the introduction of Standard, really) that we have had a full game shake-up and revamp. So I'm optimistic - if slightly hesitantly so...

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i really dont care i say how the mmr works,get a brain.

Never posted against him here,i know where to post,have nothing with him

 That's fine - it's not up to me. Just letting you know.

There seem to be a number (or at least a couple at a glance) of cards that enable you to deal a large amount of damage directly to the opponent's face (such as the new Alextrasza, or Illidari thingamybob), - well, 8 damage, to be precise, though in some cases more - which I think is concerning, but time will tell, etc. 
Dealing such a large amount to face is admittedly a good finisher and my initial thoughts were "Ooh, I love these cards!". But in hindsight, I can then see that from the other side of the board, these are going to very quickly become frustrating, I think. The same way Ragnaros was disliked for a long time.

Thaaaaaaat said, there is still the fact that there are cards which did similar that exist and don't see much play (such as the give your hero +8 attack card for Demon Hunter). But I think the core difference with the Illidari card is that it has a huge body, also has rush, and then hits the opponent's face after clearing a Taunt minion for you. So I think this is much more powerful.

You probably shouldn't be including players' names in your posts. That's considered bad form.
Also, you appear to be showing that you were effectively flaming him and demanding a response from him? 
Why would you do that? I get that it can be frustrating when you lose or playing against higher ranks, but this doesn't put you in a good light here?

Bye for now.

Most people don't get so easily confused, so I wouldn't worry. They'll be fine.
I'll keep an eye out for your next "meta breaker" discussions though, about cards like Armour Breaker (So OP!) and River Crocolisk (It's even a beast! So brokered!) 

Look, it’s clear by this point (and your previously insult-driven comments) that you are merely trolling. You dont agree with the facts about the card I’ve pointed out. Fair. You wont change your standpoint and it’s not my responsibility to make that happen. 
I certainly have no intention to waste my time repeating common sense and logic to someone who isnt interested in it. 
Well done, you trolled me into actually briefly arguing with you for a short moment. 
Lol! 
I’ll focus on replying to people who actually deserve a response and want to discuss the topic  rather than hurl childish insults because they dont have an actual answer! XD

Good day, lad. 

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My argument is pretty clear, you should see that given you are the self appointed king of reading comprehension.

 

P.S as a heads up, if you want people to remain on topic and not ‘get personal’ then you should probably stop throwing insults first?

 Good advice. You should take it.

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But yeah, I don’t play wild but a quick look at meta snapshots shows us that Dirty Rat is at least played in Tier 2 Warlock decks.

In other words it’s a very, very strong card.

Ok, great! You're agreeing that the mechanic of pulling a card from the opponent's hand is a "very, very strong" mechanic. So you agree. 
Well, that was quite the 180-degree shift. But I appreciate the confirmation. Thanks.

No, I said Dirty Rat is a very strong card, *cough* reading comprehension *cough

So what makes Dirty Rat "very, very strong" aside from his ability then? (Seeing as how that's not what you were referring to).

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I’m saying don’t take the ‘meta-breaker’ jibes seriously. That was very clear in my post fwiw.

Not really. In any case, it's not really my responsibility to try and telepathically pick out what bits of your post are meant to be serious and what aren't when you literally make no differentiation in the post between the two. 
This backpedalling here isn't a good look.

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But yeah, I don’t play wild but a quick look at meta snapshots shows us that Dirty Rat is at least played in Tier 2 Warlock decks.

In other words it’s a very, very strong card.

Ok, great! You're agreeing that the mechanic of pulling a card from the opponent's hand is a "very, very strong" mechanic. So you agree. 
Well, that was quite the 180-degree shift. But I appreciate the confirmation. Thanks.

 You understand the difference between 2 mana 1 card and 7 mana 2 cards right?

I think you mean 3-10 mana 2+ cards (since you will need some sort of removal with Dirty Rat for it not to screw you over).
But other than that, yes I understand the difference between a 3 to 10 mana 2-card combo and a 5-7 mana 2-card combo.
I mean, the clue's in the words...
The only real difference (barring a mana or two in cost) is that one combo gives your opponent the possibility of an inherent advantage and requires you to have no idea what to expect during the outcome of your combo, whereas the other gives you a distinct card advantage with no inherent drawback to your play.

I mean, you understand that... right?

Again, where was I ever "combative"? You're exaggerating again. 
Calmly stating my points in the face of people flinging insults is hardly combative, lol.
If anything, I've been pretty low-key respectful through this whole thread, barring perhaps the occasional sarcastic jab here and there.

And I don't have to accept people's wrong opinions just because a handful of people are yelling them at me. There's literally no reason for me to put my hands up and admit anything, because my feelings about these cards were never an over-reaction - mostly because they were a calm and measured opinion, as I helpfully pointed out a couple of posts back.

Also, you say "Don't take it seriously" - you're saying that none of your argumentative posts were serious? So just trolling? 

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But yeah, I don’t play wild but a quick look at meta snapshots shows us that Dirty Rat is at least played in Tier 2 Warlock decks.

In other words it’s a very, very strong card.

Ok, great! You're agreeing that the mechanic of pulling a card from the opponent's hand is a "very, very strong" mechanic. So you agree. 
Well, that was quite the 180-degree shift. But I appreciate the confirmation. Thanks.

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haha

I still cannot believe the lad hasn’t just held his hands up and admitted his initial reaction to the 2 card, 7 mana meta breaker was a little overboard.

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Not saying it's "broken" or any similar "End is Nigh!" doom-speak, at the moment, because it's far too soon to tell, but it is certainly something that i see becoming a real annoyance.

I'm keen to hear how this extremely benign and ponderous consideration of the cards I was discussing is anywhere near "overboard". I mean, if anything is overboard right now, it's been the knee-jerk reactions to what was a pretty regular post.

Also, there you are with that funny "meta breaker" term again. Please do show me where I ever made that claim. It seems like you're the one over-exaggerating at this point, wouldn't you say?