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My experience is that the jades ramping to 5/5+ become impossible to deal with after a certain point when they are being spit out 3 a pop per turn. That's how they kill all the resurrections: with giant Jades. It really comes down to who draws the nuts first. If they are ramping out Jades super early, refill with UI, repeat, etc. and you don't have the clears or resurrects then you're done. However, if you get the early Barnes/Essence on something like Ragnaros, then yeah it's just ez game. Thing is that doesn't always happen when you need it to.

My whole point though was that Big Priest is very beatable in the meta.

He's pretty much Yogg 2.0, for obvious reasons, but mainly because he's an "oh shit" button and 80% swings the game back in your favor and 20% doesn't get you a an otherwise unobtainable win.

Very, very frustrating. Nothing like being a turn away from winning then instantly losing after they play this card. Yogg all over again.

Infinite Value decks like Jade Druid completely shit on Big Priest. So do all combo decks.

It's definitely very strong imo, but there are counters to it.

Also, it's far from a solitaire deck. It plays just like a control deck, but your win con is resurrecting. Lots of decisions to make with board clears, one must know the opponent's deck very well to ensure wins. It's not always just resurrect and win. Barnes on 4 isn't always a guaranteed win either.

I think it's overall a very solid set, lots of really great gems in there.

Problem is the meta, and the ultra powerful stuff from previous sets.

Standard should be really fun right now, but unfortunately it's the same stuff since Witchwood released; Baku, Genn, and DK's are ruining the rest of the card pool.

Nerfs to 5 cards had more impact than an entire expansion.

Nice to revisit Spiteful Zoo. I ran it a few seasons ago with Witch's Cauldrons for spell generation, and DK as a finisher. Druids were unbeatable, but maybe that's better after nerfs.

I'm giving this list a go, although I swapped the single Fire Fly for Arena Fanatic.

Love this thread.

Aviana - 8 mana 5/5, "Your minions that cost (5) or more cost (5)." I've always loved the Scepter of Summoning from the Dungeon Runs, and I want to bring that flavor to Play Mode. Aviana has always been busted making your stuff cost 1; I propose to reduce her cost and change the effect to that of the scepter. Putting her at 8 mana puts her out of double Innervate range to play another big minion the same turn (Kun). Also, I don't think the minions costing 5 is TOO terribly busted, certainly not as bad as 1.

Snowfury Giant - Cost reduced to 10, it has always bothered me, 11 is just dumb if you obtain it from an effect if you're not Shaman (like Astral Rift).

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All these posts about OMG HSREPLAY ISNT UPDATED YET... 

 

just make me think...

oh no, no one has anything to net deck, what will all of these talented people do?

Watch the numerous sources where new decks are listed, watch streamers, theory craft, ...

The people who prepare for the game will continue to crush the people who don't.

 I doubt someone who is looking for netdeck lists won't be theory crafting anything, just sayin'.

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I hope that they will rework the priest’s resurrection mechanic.

When minion got resurrected it should be remove from dead pool. It is nonsense when priest resurrected 2-3 copy of single dead minion.

 

 This is how it works in Eternal, stuff that comes back from the void has to be in the void to begin with.  In addition, if it went to the void as a 1/1 copy, it comes back as a 1/1 copy.  Of course in that game, void interaction is a legitimate mechanic - there are cards that mill the top 5 cards of your deck to the void for the purpose of resurrecting them, typically at a reduced cost or improved stats.

 This is the solution.  Cards that create a 1/1 copy should create a wholly different minion.  It shouldn’t count as an ‘enchantment’ that can be removed with silence or through resurrection.  The white color of the attack and health numbers even seem to indicate that this is the way it was probably originally intended to function (they do not appear in ‘enchanted’ green).  If Blizzard made this change, it would fix a lot.

 While I completely agree with your sentiment, I just want to point out that other effects that reduce attack do not show green either. Cards like Humility will show white, damage to health shows red, buffs show green. I think that all reductions should show red though, so we don't have that issue you mentioned about the 1/1 copy showing white. I totally think the 1/1 copy should stay 1/1 when silenced and resurrected though, and I actually play Big Priest from time to time (mainly for quests and stuff, but damn it feels so broken resurrecting 6 of the same minion without ever playing one from hand).

I think all if not most of the classes are experiencing some form of this as well.

Priests are not the best healers, Hunters are not the best SMOrcers, Warrior is not the best at weapons/armor, etc.

The list goes on, but there is certainly a big shift going on right now (has been since Mammoth I think).

Not sure if this is Team 5's way of keeping things interesting or what, but I would think they could come up with something more novel instead of recycling themes into other classes.

I feel you though, I think Warrior is in a nasty spot, especially for new players. I've been playing since before Naxx and I still have exactly 6 ladder wins with Warrior. This is because they've only ever had dust-expensive decks, besides PW which I refuse to play. I don't like the class enough to craft all the Legendaries and (especially) Epics that the class requires.

I still play Big Priest in Wild from time to time to get ever closer to that golden hero.

Sorry...

That really sucks, I lost one of my boss matchups due to a disconnect as I swung my minion for lethal damage, I was so tilted.

I had cast like 6 spells to buff my Mana Addict for board clears and lethal damage, and as soon as I swung for the hit the game froze and I got the loss. My game always lags for a few seconds on a lethal hit in every game for some reason, but this time it cost me the Rumble Championship!

I've found that you can clear the Rumble with relative ease with the right shrine and deck though, so keep trying! The RNG is strong with this PvE, but the runs you get with really busted stuff are quite fun; some runs you will just run into unwinnable matchups, unfortunately.

The quest reward is actually not good.

Wow lots of people getting Druid stuff when they dislike the class.

I love Druid (anything but Solitaire OTK though, that's degenerate stuff) and I never get the Druid freebies or stuff from packs. I almost always have to craft my fun Druid stuff.

That being said, I do get a wide variety from freebies and packs, so I can't say I necessarily buy into the theory.

I've found that you just have to break the wood teeth until they don't reappear, then you get a little tune and you can press the cap for gold teeth.

Also the drum club drum drum tusk Easter egg is the better one. Fireworks!