Hearthpwn

Pilgrim DID recieve a nerf, as it used to cast a COPY of a spell in your deck, now it removes the spell from your deck during the battlecry.  But, I could still see including it as a failsafe for not drawing your potions soon enough.  ( Maybe not 2 copies tho, imo)

J Alexander's shuffle stealth rogue is pretty sweet

Pandarian Panda

3 mana 3/3

Battlecry:  "Ska-doosh!" the enemy hero

XD

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How do you compare a REAL f2p game like League Of Legends to Hearthstone ?

 Did someone here make that comparison?  If so, I missed it...

Quote from Dunscot >>

Take a look at me! I'm lecturing you, unrequested, without any competence, and you correctly assume I'm an asshole.

 I mean obviously I disagree with you, which is fine, but THIS line was absolute gold.

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problem is bli$$ is not valuing the time one (be him/she a f2p or a p2p player) spends in this game...

Why would a business -- any business -- value customers that spend zero money.  Would you open up a car wash and then give free car washes to everyone? would you open up a restaurant and give everyone free food? You'd be out of business pretty quickly. That's why businesses have frequent customer rewards because they value the people that spend money.

Also I havent invalidated any part of my argument because I clearly stated that, in the absence of money, time and dedication are just as important but few seem to want to give those either.   "Give nothing, get something" doesn't exist in the real world and it certainly doesn't exist in the business world.

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Like really, what do you think should come from this? Where is this supposed to go? People saluting you? A purge? Do we need to get rid of "the plebs"? Do you just want to vent because you are constipated or is there an actual reason or motivation for your rant? Shouldn't you have better things to do?

 

I'm not trying to offend anyone, or elicit grand change.  I was simply stating my opinion on a forum designed for stating opinions.  If you took this personally, I have no explanation for that...

I get that not everyone has the means to spend large amounts of money on a game.  I TOTALLY understand that. 

But, that being said -- if you want it badly enough, you can get your 30 wins a day (100 gold) AND your daily quest (average 50 gold) which is 150 total gold per day.   That's 18,000 gold per expansion.  So, if you cant be competitive with that, the problem COULD be you.

Also, a quick word about my analogy of tennis, a "restrictive" sport as you say:

Serena Williams is possibly the greatest female player of all time.  She grew up without the means of most of her competitors, but through hard work and dedication to her sport, she was able to overcome what many would call impossible odds.  If you want it badly enough and are willing to put in the work, you'll find a way.

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While I totally agree with your sentiment, I think there's a slippy slope in what you're saying.  You're implying that by paying money you should be more competitive.  That's the heart of a pay to win game, and that's not a path I would hope the Hearthstone would go down. 

To be clear - I currently don't think HS is pay2win and of course every developer is entitiled to monetize their game however they see fit (im not considering battleground because it's not a format I play).  As it stands I think you can be as competitive as anyone else without paying any money at all.  It might take you a little longer to get the optimal deck, or it might mean you can only play one or two meta decks every cycle, but that's a decision you make by not paying money.

I agree wholeheartedly that the "I want more free stuff" posts on the forums are a bit misguided.  At the end of the day, if you really want more stuff you can always decide to buy it.  There are arguments about whether the current card pack/reward system is value for money, but again, that's a decision that an individual makes.

I agree with your statement as well, but to clarify -- I do not think spending money AUTOMATICALLY makes one more competitive.  However, you need a robust card collection in order to be competitive.  In order to do this you have two options -- spend money, dedicate time, or (even better) do both.   But if you're going to do neither, you have no right to complain in my view, and those who do so appear to me as bratty children who didn't get the toy they wanted hahah

All of what follows is my own opinion:

So, I've been around Hearthstone since the beginning, and one thing that's never changed is that any time something costs money, the floodgates open, and a deluge of complaints descend upon every hearthstone forum in existence.   I have never understood the juxtapositioning of "I don't want to spend money" with "I want to be competitive."  These two philosophies simply do not go together.

This is also true in other forms of competition.   If you play tennis, for example, hard work and practice will get you most of the way there, but players who spend on the best rackets, the best shoes, and the best coaching will have a significant advantage over those who do not.   My personal belief is that what SOME of these perennial complainers really mean is "I don't want to spend money, but I DESERVE to be competitive."  This way of thinking belongs in the trash can with other phrases of the entitled such as "I don't want to study, but deserve an A+" and "I don't want to work, but deserve to be wealthy."

You are NOT entitled to free gaming, and if that's what you desire, there are plenty of games where you can do just that (including some of the game modes of Hearthstone, by the way) not to mention that there are legitimate players who grind daily and DO NOT spend money, but instead sacrifice their time, in order to get what they need to stay competitive.   

So, in conclusion, if you don't want to put in the time OR the money, then what are you even complaining about?

TL/DR:  You can't be competitive without sacrifice, so if you aren't sacrificing anything, stop complaining about it being unfair.

If all 8 players are using the tracker that counts 1 game as 8 different tracked games to the HSreplay gamelogs, so muliplying that 3 million times 8 automatically is a bit mathematically presumptuous.  Im not disagreeing with your point.  Just with your math.

Also there's a card called MAGIC trick.  They blatantly stole the word MAGIC.  Open your eyes, people!  Also HS uses 'cards' which form together into 'decks' which is a direct ripoff as well.  SMH

Excellent.  The CakeEater will eat the cake.   It's all coming full circle.

There is only one answer:

Funnel cake

I chose value over removal, and went -2 Primordial Explorer and +2 Ramkahen Wildtamer (mostly because i wanted to play a card I've never used haha.   Any way here's a game I played with it:

https://youtu.be/D43vECfc8pU

Pretty fun stuff!