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As far as I know, this deck mostly originated from this: https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/1175-tempo-dragon-warrior-60-7-win-rate-85-54-to-legend-from-rank-9-comparisons-to-tempo-warrior/ The link includes a very detailed and well written guide. Note however that the two decks are different. I've tried the other one and it's more aggressive - perhaps even a bit more efficient in this aggression. It is subject to a good starting hand and an explosive beginning until turn 5-6. If you don't have that, then you run out of steam quickly. I don't like aggro and I don't like running out of options, so I don't think these two are for me, but I'm still trying out the Manacrystals one.

There's nothing to "believe" or not, you can play with names as much as you like, and exactly like you said it's not my problem either. This is a mediocre version of the typical dragon control warrior standard list that's now at #1 of the meta snapshot (https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/dragon-nzoth-control-warrior-standard-meta-snapshot-june-08-2016), and one with CONTROL in the title. I can make a whole list of reasons why this deck is not as good as that one, but it's rather pointless (let me know if you are interested, though).

One guy says it's a hybrid between tempo/aggro dragon warrior and control. The other says it's a hybrid between control and midrange. What me and the others are saying is it's just a typical control dragon warrior, like so many others before it and so many to follow (at least until the major dragon synergies leave Standard). A true "hybrid" is one that very clearly borrows elements from two deck types, like for example the old combo&ramp hybrid druids that included only 1 combo instead of 2, plus lots of pure ramp cards.

And what is also being said is that beyond a certain point it's just semantics, and that it's pointless to get your mind stuck on labels - same case with music and art in general. 

In the past there have been lots of control warrior decks based on dragon synergies, and this has nothing in common with the tempo dragon warrior deck going around with the Drakonids (before someone uploads it here as their own creation: it mostly originated from this). It's just semantics beyond a certain point, but "hybrid" is a rather poor description here, Not that it really matters...

You are correct... personally speaking, I always prefer NZoth summoning back at least one taunt minion, otherwise he might not make a difference at all. So here Chillmaw fits that role perfectly, and of course Tyrion is the very best for that purpose...

What annoys me though is getting NZoth to work (if you can find him - according to my shitty RNG he has a preference of staying at the bottom 3 cards of my deck). This can take quite a while in this list, especially when you have very few deathrattle minions to resurrect - and you might be dead by then. The advantage of having lots of smaller deathrattle minions is that you can play him almost whenever you like, with no significant penalty. And in this meta you have to act quickly.

If you have him, it's definitely an excellent addition in the place of Chillmaw. Very hard to get rid of efficiently besides Hex, Polymorph and Entomb. He is very useful in many decks nowadays, and most NZoth decks almost by default either include him, Sylvanas, or both. On the other hand though Chillmaw also works as a dragon synergy activator, so she works in quite a few specific ways here.

If you spend some time with the deck and see one specific card you don't particularly need, for example one Wild Pyromancer out of the two, then add another dragon in. Faerie Dragon has the same mana, so it won't mess up your curve, plus it can be a nice choice that won't be targeted by hero powers or spells, plus it's another dragon synergy activator. Or you might choose something slightly more expensive.

Most people thought of him as a joke card (and some still do), but personally speaking I consider it as one of my best dust expenses ever. As a WoG card he will be eventually phased out from Standard, but the fun you'll have until you reach that point more than makes up for this handicap.

There are certain criteria to be met for an optimal play, and pro players in streams and tournaments pay (sort of!) attention to them (I think I saw him in the recent big one in China, in the decks of the tournament winner). He can win an otherwise unwinnable game, and can serve as a comeback mechanic when you have none left. He usually clears the whole board and draws you cards. That's why you avoid playing him when you have a large hand and a good board (playing him with a large hand is a bad idea also because you might lose it with Astral Communion).

It's not a "win more" card at all, but more of a "panic button" one - in that role he is still unpredictable but otherwise very good, and of course on top of that he's the #1 fun card of Hearthstone. I can't even begin to describe the Armageddon scenes taking place in videos and my own plays. Last night the cruel bastard summoned an adorable Murloc Tinyfin, only to Pyroblast it a few seconds later, and then kill himself in style (I won that game a few turns later).

It's a nice deck, but it doesn't have the great early game of the dragon synergies of priest. A benefit is that NZoth resummons Tyrion, who of course cannot be played by priest, but another disadvantage with two Doomsayers for the 2 mana spot, apart from the fact that they hurt your own minion presence, is that many players are including specific tech for them nowadays (Stampeding Kodo or Crazed Alchemist) because they are very popular, in which case you have lost a turn.

Another disadvantage is that only 3 cards in the deck have deathrattles, and according to my experience finding these minions, getting them killed and playing NZoth after all of that has happened can be a very slow and rather inefficient strategy. The success of NZoth decks lies in many midrange deathrattle minions who get killed easily, and then NZoth summons a whole army of them. Unfortunately, dragons don't have deathrattles at all, except just one (Chillmaw).

Historically, dragon priest was almost a perfect answer to zoo. Some valuable tools were taken away in Standard (Lightbomb, for example), but even current dragon priest decks fare well against zoo, which is dominating the ladder. Dragon paladin can include many big heals and attack-to-1 tricks, but my dragon choice for the purpose you describe would be probably priest (however, the ladder doesn't only have zoo).

I can understand if you don't have Chillmaw, but if you do, it's a terrible replacement. Not only she protects your face and provides a board clear, but she gets resummoned by NZoth. Taking her out means NZoth will only resummon Sylvanas and Tyrion (assuming they have died, of course). Plus, Nefarian is not only mana-expensive but frequently gives you useless spells - and even if they are somehow useful, they don't considerably help you win the game.

Some players don't have him, and he can be expensive to craft to include just in one or two decks without them being meta-stars. Of course, strictly speaking you don't really need such an excuse to craft him, and I put fun above everything else in HS and all other games, but there are other disadvantages as well - his mana cost, for example.

I do believe he makes dragon decks more efficient nowadays, though, when they have NZoth. But that's two 10 mana cards, and that might not prove as useful. This deck has NZoth, but the only minions he will summon - assuming they have died in the meantime, which is happening very inconsistently, as I have found out with my own NZoth decks - will be Sylvanas, Tyrion and Chillmaw. Not bad at all, but not spectacular either (most of the other NZoth decks summon a small army because they have more midrange deathrattles, which unfortunately is not happening at all with dragons).

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Just saw this, late reply, sorry. "Evolve Shaman" is one of the usual titles based around the whole strategy that became common with some of the new WoG cards. If you had googled it before you posted hot-headed replies, you would have seen it in discussions everywhere and the fact that people have been trying Cairne, among other cards, in it. It doesn't have to be competitive in tournament level as long as streamers and the public in general are actively interested in it, and as long as the card itself to be rated has tremendous value in terms of tempo there and elsewhere.

I hope this "nonsense" is now a bit easier for you to understand, and I also hope you realise Cairne's value is now beyond obvious with so many streams and tournaments around.

 I can not believe you are still trying to explain to me what evolved shaman is. I knew what the deck was before you said it. It is not a competitive deck on any tier lists. It has not effect on my tier list.

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 Besides these decks (which are already a lot), what I said is that it's a tool that its usefulness has recently increased a lot due to many reasons discussed here and elsewhere. "Evolve Shaman is not a deck"? I don't understand at all what you mean.  A bit of a simplistic answer from me, but I would recommend googling it. Also, I was expecting an answer to your previous comment on Deathwing being a staple in ramp druid (?!), with some of the current lists running him.

Why fill your replies with nonsense? I am sure both of us know that any 30 cards is a deck and evolve shaman not being a deck doesn't literally mean it cant be a deck. It is not on any competitive tier lists, therefore it is not a competitive deck. 

Yeah deathwing is staple in ancestral communion druid, I didnt mean classic ramp druid sorry

 

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 As commented hundreds of times here and elsewhere all over the web, he is used in every deck you want a sticky and healthy minion in that mana spot, especially with all the usual deathrattles from Naxx & GvG gone from Standard. For the moment he is used in tempo warrior, control warrior, some evolve decks, NZoth decks, and any other deck that needs a minion like that. As expected, he has become one of the current MVPs.

 He said what decks besides N'zoth play it, I said tempo warrior and control warrior not sure what other decks want a sticky and healthy minion because those are the only decks that play it. Evolve shaman is not a deck, it has no bearing on this tier list. 

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Besides N'Zoth decks where you guys would put Cairne? Im thinking if i should craft it but theres many good 6 drops like sylvanas which is must have and black knight aint bad either against all c'tun decks.

Is Cairne worth crafting?

 It is really only played in tempo warrior and sometimes control warrior