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The old "You're bad" thing. Yeah sure. I stay at D5-D3 too because I refuse to play window-licker decks. Thats fine. But lets please STOP pretending its a skill thing. No the hell it isnt. Aggro is the epitome of no-skill. Thats why its so abused. I get it. Just though there'd be some variety between D5 and Legend. Guess not.
Again, its fine but lets be honest about the facts here.
Reno does NOTHING when the next turn the board is reloaded again with 40/40 worth of stats. You used your whole turn 6 to play Reno and even if you did draew some early cards to help you are still dead next turn or damned close to it. Zephyrs too - it always wants to pull that Shaman card that deals 3 damage to all minions which is helpful. But, now your !@#$% overloaded next turn and are dead because of that. Its obscene. No, games shouldnt all be boring control games or take forever. But, geez, can mid-range or highlander decks get some help here? Can we at least charge the proper mana for these insane buffs? Like thats not asking too much, IMO.
There is no anti aggro except maybe some crazy & perfectly drawn priest deck with all removal. Sounds fun to play.
Oh and Murloc shaman has a board clear now too - that deal 1 damage to all enemies when summioning murloc always gets the poison treatment too. Awesome. Thats cool. Murloc Shaman has Flamestrike-quality board clears now too. Makes a ton of sense. What a joke.
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Not at D5 and down you arent. You'd get crushed.
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I cannot believe how EASY aggro has it in this game. Board clears dont work unless you have like 10 of them that also remove divine shields too. I just dont get it. Why do these decks constantly have such easy and cheap buffs ready to go turn after turn. I thought a board clear was supposed to "calm" things down for at least a turn? No? I mean, nothing helps. Nothing. Its worse in Wild of course. It just sucks that what are supposed to be counters to or at least cards that slow things down a bit are 100% useless. Taunts? Useless. Kahrtut? Junk. Reno Jackson? Great - heal back to 30 but next turn facing down a board of like 40/40 stats. You never have a chance to get anything going of your own whatsoever. Even a midrange deck is an automatic loss to any of these "full board with huge stats" aggro decks.
Zephyrs? Useless. Even if he pulls a full board clear..... next turn? 40/40 board again. Now what? Its just awful that we cant really advance with any decks other than this type of stuff. My Reno Hunter got me comfortably to D4/D5 but its nothing now but the try-hards and 4th graders milking it. Geesh. This isnt fun. Why cant we get some legit help against these decks? Like raise the cost of their buffs and get rid of divine shield. Something? Please?
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The only thing? Hardly. Lets review:
Now, here is the deal: Those decks would be OK IF the game gave us a legit, reasonable way to counter them. But they dont. Any counters that do exist are horrible cards, too expensive, dont really help or they totally cripple your other match-ups. Thats what ruins Wild mode. Its fine to have some crazy decks but give us a real way to screw them up. These are things to fix wild:
Wild needs some work, for sure. Im sick of games being decided after the first few turns or the matchup screen. There is NO skill involved in any of this either. Its 100% matchup and then pure early draw based. That decides every game from D5 on down.
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Standard is garbage. What meta is greener?
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How is Wand Thief removal? IF and its a huge IF it happens to pull a good spell which it certainly does not many times. Flame Ward and stuff is great against a wide board but you dont get that much. Prize Plunderer? Requires several cards to be played ahead of time to really do damage. Ambush? Yep - great removal if they dont kill it right away which any bronze player usually does. Hanar? How is that removal? It isnt - Yes, it can generate the 8-armor secret, Vaporize, etc and its a good card. But, as always with this deck it has to be played with a string of secrets back to back to back to be good. Gollum Shaper? Yeah, it CAN be good IF you can build them with the right stuff. Again, thats far from a sure thing. And I mentioned that if you have to use Alex for anything other than damaging your opponent you're done, especially if you cant shadowstep it or Teemu it. So, you see, your list of removal or generating removal is extremely situational and many times it removes nothing. Good try here but the facts and data show otherwise. Sorry to say.
If people are winning with this deck then they are running into dream matchups where they can discount everything, sit back and collect cards. Thats great but its useless against many of the hot decks right now in standard. paladin crushes it. Mage usually beats it easily. Tickatus will also wreck it most of the time. Hunter with a fat board is another problem. So what does this beat then? Bad priest decks? Shaman? Poorly drawn, late game decks? Thats great and all but aint cutting it. Of couirse streamers just cherry-pick automatic, easy wins and post the video. Big effing deal.
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What misplays though? It loses hard to paladin and mage. It doesnt fare well against any board and without Blackjack and a secret loaded you have NO removal. Zero. Big threats often stay alive. Then what? If you have to use that Dragon for 8 healing you've lost big time. You cant just sit there and collect cards hoping your opponent does nothing for 7 turns. Not in standard. Lets not overstate "skill" in this game either. C'mon. Hearthstone? Skill? Not really. Be realistic here.
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I thought miracle/secret rogue was a decent deck in standard. Guess not. It loses hard to Paladin, Huntard & Mage. Like 100% loss rate. It cant put any early pressure on and relies on gimmicky draw combos to "win". Maybe Im missing something but the version with Hanar, Kazakus & that 8 damage or heal dragon is useless.
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Paladin has NO weaknesses at all. None. lets review:
What weaknesses????
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I sincerely hope that paladin players get genital warts. Thats all. Fucking window-licking morons.
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Like what? What game are YOU playing? Zero weaknesses. Zero counters. Nothing you do works. Nothing. They can clear boards, heal for 20++ each game, buff the crap out of minions for little cost, they have crazy secrets, great card draw, awesome card generation, etc, etc.
And , its yet another EXTREMELY low skill floor class/deck. You cant screw it up. It wins for you.
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Boring? Watching Mage draw their entire deck by turn 5/6 playing zero cost spells is "fun"? Watching Paladin have every possible answer to every possible thing you can even imagine doing is fun? Having NO good neutral counters tro any of this horse dung is fun?
What current borken decks do you think take "skill". Im ready to laugh my arse off if you even mention anything paladin, Mage or basically anything else. The skill has looooong been removed in favor of game-over turns and ridiculous synergies. Its great for the 7 year olds so they can win too but it makes the game suck. Its a casino. Thats what theyve mad it into. Its not a "CCG" anymore because it isnt "competitive" at all. Its just "win at the matchup screen" or "draw busted crap before your opponent does". Thats all it is.
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Yeah sure - auto-pilot is the only way to describe them. Whats the "thought" requored? Play endless minion buff cards. Play super buffed minions. Please. They are Tier 0. Its OK. Just accept that the decks "got" legend. Again, Its OK. Lots of people do it. Oh and the classic "get of of bronze" comeback. That indicates that a nerve has been struck. The cats out of the bag. Busted decks win games. We all know. :)
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The game is WAY worse than it used to be. You used to have to think about plays and actually make informed decisions at least sometimes. Now? Not even close. The decks win, not the players because Blizzard insists on creating broken synergies with no weaknesses and no way to counter the stupid crap. So the game is perfect if you are a single-cell organism with no brain. But, the OP seems like hes not that so he'll be disappointed.
Paladin and Mage are BOTH 100% broken still and this is after they ALLEGEDLY nerfed them which of course they didnt.
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So, the two most extremely broken decks like ever are what you made it with? Id rather people post decks that arent auto-pilot if possible. Sorry but the decks themselves get legend. Lets not soil this possibly good thread with try-hards posting the same busted crap. Please.