You can cut one pain and mind control for it, depends on what you run into. Or cut one Inner Fire one Divine Spirit. You can also consider adding Holy Smite.
So you basically created thread to deny facts and push your own agenda together with saltiness that you are not good enough in arena anymore?
You state rogue is "still tier 2" even tho it's tier 1 objectivelly being stronger than mage across playfield and stated to be #1 arena class by large amount of infinite players.
Maybe it's tier 2 class for lower-skill players like you probably because it's harder to draft and harder to play correctly, but if we are talking about it's performance across the board, it's easy to look at the numbers and see objective facts instead.
You also cannot simply state mage counters rogue. First of all it's not truth to my experience and the matchup comes largelly to the skill of rogue player and draft of mage player and there are 2 very different mage archetypes in arena.
The reasons why is rogue so strong vs. paladin in arena also doesn't boil down to your simplistic "good cards vs. pala heropower" - it's the fact that your average rogue deck has very high tempo specially in earlygame removal, performing good vs. shieldbot opener consistentally as the only class for example, higher chance to have mid removal for low hp flooding than any other class, low-rarity class specific cards effective in standart arena matchups for early game compared to some epic-locked cards from other classes.
Part of the reason classes can perform very differently in arena compared to constructed is rarity distribution of cards, not just the nature of draft itself.
I play midrange druid currently at rank 3 and I average 6 minutes per game.
That is too long for you? If so, look at dwl_s post, Not sure how faster it is, for me personally midrange still has better winrate than aggro but it's very comparable.
There are REAL numbers across thousands of games for you.
Again - popularity != success rate
Your assumption of "not seeing class = it's bad" is just false. Accept it, it means it is less popular but very successful in hands of players who picks it. Deal with it.
And your try to accuse me "I am sure YOUR picks blah blah.." Yeah i brought statistics with me - you brought your "I don't see that class past 3-0"... So who here is deluding facts with own experience?
oh yeah..rouge is the best class in arena ? ... then how do you explain the wild absence of the class in arena as my opponents are all mages and paladins ??!
lol the last time i've seen rouge in arena was when i had a shitty run and i was 1-2 or something :D
past 3-0 they are all mages and paladins .. sometimes other classes but very rarely ...certainly not rouge
POPULARITY != QUALITY
Rogue was top tier arena class forever. It was mage>paladin>rogue>druid>everything else>warrior After tgt all that happened is that mage and pala swapped places and pala>mage.
But me, and lot of other players have best winrate over large amount of games with rogue over pala and mage, it compliments more tempo-agressive style better and draft is more consistent.
Popularity =/= success rate.
Some references to not talk from my a**:
Mageaverages 5.28 wins per arena with a 64.45% game win rate
21.67% of arenas played by our players are as Mage
Paladinaverages 5.07 wins per arena with a 63.41% game win rate 17.17% of arenas played by our players are as Paladin
Rogueaverages 4.99 wins per arena with a 63.03% game win rate 10.65% of arenas played by our players are as Rogue
Shamanaverages 4.91 wins per arena with a 62.61% game win rate 11.32% of arenas played by our players are as Shaman
Druidaverages 4.75 wins per arena with a 61.79% game win rate 11.92% of arenas played by our players are as Druid
Priestaverages 4.65 wins per arena with a 61.25% game win rate 9.03% of arenas played by our players are as Priest
Hunteraverages 4.64 wins per arena with a 61.21% game win rate 6.61% of arenas played by our players are as Hunter
Warlockaverages 4.52 wins per arena with a 60.61% game win rate 6.06% of arenas played by our players are as Warlock
Warrioraverages 4.51 wins per arena with a 60.47% game win rate 5.57% of arenas played by our players are as Warrior
People rate it higher because it feels good to play the deck, you feel in control more than with fe: MidDruid.
Mid Druid has better winrate if you play both decks on same level, but you feel better playing priest. IMO What i mean by feel better is you feel you deserved the wins and didn't deserve the losses, with druid, patron, secret pala and freeze mage - which all perform better this week for me - you often feel like the scumbag in your matchups.
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I use "greetings" or "sorry" bm when the opponent uses "greetings" or "sorry" in middle of matchup after performing some RNG luck stuff.
I just stay silent and use the same emote right before killing him, Feels good man.
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Point taken, also Refreshment Vendor
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Imagine it's printed and anyone tries to use it, why not between turn 1 and 9:
So you can use it vs priests, if they don't ping their own face with spell or Auchenai Soulpriest.
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Check out this forum thread, might be useful in your decision:
Legendary Tier Crafting Guide
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First look at your f2p deck tells me you should absolutelly consider crafting
Wild Pyromancer
You can cut one pain and mind control for it, depends on what you run into.
Or cut one Inner Fire one Divine Spirit.
You can also consider adding Holy Smite.
TL;DR: I would remove 1x Divine Spirit, 1x Inner Fire, 1x Shadow Word: Pain, 1x Mind Control
Add 2x Wild Pyromancer 2x Holy Smite
It's hard to enable the classic priest shell without naxx cards but it's doable, one set of divine/innerrage should be enough, double seems clunky.
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Paladin and Rogue are tier 1 in current arena meta
Mage is tier 2
Rogue has higher skill cap than paladin,
if you are comfy with rogue i would say it's best atm, but even than paladin is right up there.
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So you basically created thread to deny facts and push your own agenda together with saltiness that you are not good enough in arena anymore?
You state rogue is "still tier 2" even tho it's tier 1 objectivelly being stronger than mage across playfield and stated to be #1 arena class by large amount of infinite players.
Maybe it's tier 2 class for lower-skill players like you probably because it's harder to draft and harder to play correctly, but if we are talking about it's performance across the board, it's easy to look at the numbers and see objective facts instead.
You also cannot simply state mage counters rogue. First of all it's not truth to my experience and the matchup comes largelly to the skill of rogue player and draft of mage player and there are 2 very different mage archetypes in arena.
The reasons why is rogue so strong vs. paladin in arena also doesn't boil down to your simplistic "good cards vs. pala heropower" - it's the fact that your average rogue deck has very high tempo specially in earlygame removal, performing good vs. shieldbot opener consistentally as the only class for example, higher chance to have mid removal for low hp flooding than any other class, low-rarity class specific cards effective in standart arena matchups for early game compared to some epic-locked cards from other classes.
Part of the reason classes can perform very differently in arena compared to constructed is rarity distribution of cards, not just the nature of draft itself.
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I play midrange druid currently at rank 3 and I average 6 minutes per game.
That is too long for you? If so, look at dwl_s post, Not sure how faster it is, for me personally midrange still has better winrate than aggro but it's very comparable.
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Read my post after the edit.
There are REAL numbers across thousands of games for you.
Again - popularity != success rate
Your assumption of "not seeing class = it's bad" is just false. Accept it, it means it is less popular but very successful in hands of players who picks it. Deal with it.
And your try to accuse me "I am sure YOUR picks blah blah.." Yeah i brought statistics with me - you brought your "I don't see that class past 3-0"... So who here is deluding facts with own experience?
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POPULARITY != QUALITY
Rogue was top tier arena class forever. It was mage>paladin>rogue>druid>everything else>warrior
After tgt all that happened is that mage and pala swapped places and pala>mage.
But me, and lot of other players have best winrate over large amount of games with rogue over pala and mage, it compliments more tempo-agressive style better and draft is more consistent.
Popularity =/= success rate.
Some references to not talk from my a**:
17.17% of arenas played by our players are as Paladin
10.65% of arenas played by our players are as Rogue
11.32% of arenas played by our players are as Shaman
11.92% of arenas played by our players are as Druid
9.03% of arenas played by our players are as Priest
6.61% of arenas played by our players are as Hunter
6.06% of arenas played by our players are as Warlock
5.57% of arenas played by our players are as Warrior
http://www.arenamastery.com/sitewide.php Showing all history stats, not affected by TGT very much. Rogue is clear 3rd overall.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3jh5zy/1_week_of_tgt_heartharena_mage_lost_its_throne_in/
Table showing stats from HEARTHARENA before tgt. Rogue clearly 3rd.
Table 25th aug-2nd sep (TGT) from HEARTHARENA showing paladin beating mage, Rogue 2nd ALSO beating mage.
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I use him a lot when i play warrior, I just like the card.
But to be fair, i use him maybe 1 in 4 games, and only 1/2 of those cases it changes the outcome of the game i would say.
It's more a guilty pleasure than optimal card but it's not bad.
Would replace BHG with it if you really want him imo.
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He deleted the old version that was quoted, so the quotes contain the imgur "deleted image" box - the post itself and cards in table are still there.
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Dragon priest is tier 2 in terms of winrate.
People rate it higher because it feels good to play the deck, you feel in control more than with fe: MidDruid.
Mid Druid has better winrate if you play both decks on same level, but you feel better playing priest. IMO
What i mean by feel better is you feel you deserved the wins and didn't deserve the losses, with druid, patron, secret pala and freeze mage - which all perform better this week for me - you often feel like the scumbag in your matchups.
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If you are considering bling before your collection is full, you are a filthy roleplayer.
You can also safe the dust.