Hearthpwn

I feel your pain guys. Team 5 are incompetent I'm afraid. It's been a shitshow since Brode left. The fact that they continue to ignore the best aspects of Hearthstone in favour of the most frustrating and unfun mechanics and balancing is just tiresome at this point. 

It's like they completely forgot that you have 30hp in Hearthstone. Nothing about DH is balanced around that fact. But it's not a surprise really. Team 5 have been fully incompetent since Brode left. 

So this is going to keep happening. 

People are going to complain about Demon Hunter and then people will complain about people complaining about Demon Hunter, etc. 

Yes, there are too many topics saying basically the same thing but the points being made are valid. The nerfs were a failure because the design philosophy of the class was borked from the start. 

Being able to chain massive face damage turns that would make the most abusive hunter and warrior decks of yore blush is not good design. Giving Demon Hunter this ability without ANY OTHER WEAKNESSES is downright incompetent.  

The card draw is insane, the mana reduction is insane, the class cards are completely overtuned, etc. It just seems unfathomable how they managed to mess it up so badly. 

I'm fine with Demon Hunter being a strong class just so we're clear; but there are decks that feel horrible to lose to because you don't feel like you ever had a chance. This is DH's entire class identity. The card chaining is still broken after the nerfs. Simple as that. 

If we take the nerf to Altruis the Outcast as an example you really have to admit that it seems like Team5 don't have a great grasp of what they're doing. 

Their logic was that by increasing the mana cost by one the card would be slower and less abusive. But this is obviously not the case. Demon Hunter doesn't care that this card comes down slightly later. They can still chain to their heart's delight while smacking you in the face AND clearing your entire board. It's like they refuse to admit that their design from the start is....well... it's not good. Until they do people are going to be upset getting steamrolled by this class without feeling they had any say in the matter. 

Honestly, I'd tell you to go outside but... 

Nevermind...

This deck abuses Sethekk Veilweaver for crazy value turns so minion targeting spells are favoured.

I am running a similar list but I run TWO Sethekk Veilweavers and two Renew. People are sleeping on the Sethekk's IMO. This deck runs a lot of low cost targetted spells by design and the Sethekks can generate a LOT of insane value. 

The fastest nerfs in HS history. So when should we start laughing at the idiots that defended DH and said it was fine?

Quote from user-100394506 >>

In my opinion, (and I am a rogue player), there is no need for DH nerfs. Win rate is high yes, but:

1) It is a new class, everybody are playing this class (so, data are strange)

2) It is not overpowered, it is good, if you use it in wild you will see that this class is not remotely broken as Mage, Warlock or Priest

In conclusion, it is fine in this way. After 2/3 weeks the win rate will be much lower due to class diversification.

For these reasons, your nerfs sucks.  

 

 You have literally no clue what you're talking about.

Quote from jarls >>

Skull Of Guldan should not exist. They should not be allowed card draw its stupid.

 At the very least it should be legendary. 

It's launch day. It's Early, Blah blah blah blah. 

Great. Demon Hunter is still blatantly broken and way overtuned. Anyone who denies this is either a moron or being purposefully obtuse.

I was playing Highlander Priest with great success and whilst it loses some great cards it gains what I expect is more than enough to compensate and probably make it even more powerful so I'll be giving it a go.

I started playing in Beta and never disenchanted anything so I never had to lay out big money (just bought most standard expansions as they came out and bumped the collections up with quest and arena gold) so I have a solid Wild collection. If you are new to the game and don't want to spend obscene money then I'd suggest skipping it and sticking to Standard.

I'll be honest, nothing about this set has really jumped out at me at all. That said, it's foolish to call it so early. Lets actually play the expansion before passing judgement. 

Still, Hearthstone peaked with Ungoro and I don't see this set changing that.

7 Mana kill an enemy minion (or two), gain 5 armor and switch your hero power to value generation is worth it. Adding more invoke cards is not worth subbing out other cards for. 

It's another I'm salty and I NEED to tell everyone about it in its own thread instead of putting it in the salt thread because THIS case is important to ME!

This deck is great. It ticks the two most important boxes for me: Be super fun to play and actually competitive at the same time. 

Nice job!