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So let's recap. Someone adapted to the new cards, and you're complaining because you didn't adapt at anything and got served.
And of course, instead of trying to actually put some thought and effort to work things out...LETS GO CRYBABY AT ALL THE FORUMS \o/

PATRON CANCER SECREDIN CANCER CW CANCER FREEZE MAGE CANCER WAH WAH WAH OP.

This isn't a Hearthstone exclusive, it happens in 90% of competitive games.
By noobs who'd rather whine than try to adapt.

Don't worry, as sure as the sun rises from the east, counter decks will appear shortly and then you can use them and pretend you're good at this game again. Without doing any of this...how they call it? Oh yeah, thinking.

 95% of the hearthstone community are people who can't get to rank 5. Those 95% are made up of people who are too lazy to actually learn to play the game and prefer to whine about anything they can't beat. And since blizzard needs to keep their player base up, they will naturally support those 95% over the remaining 5%. It's an inevitable(and sad) proposition, but I don't think it can be solved.

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You know, those games which you could have easily handled if you had only drawn a bloody weapon or anyother of the removal in the deck. But noooo, stricter and stricter perfect mulligan is required more and more. Reno is partially to thank for that. Draw bad, opponent draws well, be dead, end of story. That's the game and nothing more.

 That's merely your deck building.

Nonsense. Lack of drawing any of multiple useable cards occurs in any deck. Again I say: if you get terrible draw and your opponent gets great draw, you're most often screwed. So much for great game design, and intellectual and skill requirements.

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You know, those games which you could have easily handled if you had only drawn a bloody weapon or anyother of the removal in the deck. But noooo, stricter and stricter perfect mulligan is required more and more. Reno is partially to thank for that. Draw bad, opponent draws well, be dead, end of story. That's the game and nothing more.

I did a rough calculation, if you have 2 pairs of cards, there is only a 27% chance to trigger Reno combo with 15 cards undrawn, halving the value of Reno. You need to draw 4 more cards to get the 50% probability again.

Or you can think of it in another way: if you have 1 pair of cards, then Reno's battlecry becomes a 2-card combo. If you have 2 pairs, then it's a 3-pieces combo. 

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Highlander decks will work, but I wonder if reno won't do well for cycle decks as well. Cycle rogue for example, might become a thing. You set it up and you can cycle your deck by 9/10 and perhaps gang up reno. There will be a skill requirement (read: pen&paper) for those though, but that's cool.

 

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Just wondering: can Beneath the Grounds counter Reno or are the ambushes not considered as cards?

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In short, there's already a proper thread:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty

 no, this thread is for bitching and crying. This here, is an intelectual discussion.

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 For the sake of consistency, you should expect that you need to draw at least half of your deck to find Elise since there is only one copy of her, then draw the next half of that half to find the Map, and then draw halfway through the remaining quarter of the deck you have left to find the Golden Monkey.

In other words, your game is going to be either slow as hell or you're going to be playing a ton of card draws, which means you'll be fending off the opponent for most of the game. The dream, of course, is that you draw into the map and then the monkey early while running low-cost cards and have them all magically turn into late game cards, but in practice it would be pretty unreliable. Still, you have a point, it does work at times. Kind of like Stalagg and Feugen.

As for Entomb, my case stands in it doesn't work unless the game slows down first. It's not much different than Siphon Soul and Recycle in terms of tempo.

 Not the card themsleves slow the meta down but the deckbuilding they enable, so a card-by-card comparison doesn't seem right. The death effect of the cardis not the deal, but being able to "steal" a big threat from you opponent, so you dont have to play one.

For example: The priest vs Paladin matchup can go 3 ways. Either you win/lose in the early game versus secrets, or the opponent recovers by means of divine favor, or he plays control paladin. In the latter 2 it is not uncommon to reach the bottom of your deck. I tried teching aginst the first case only to find out, I was losing the other two cases due to not having a finisher. Entomb on tirion (or even MC), f.e. would be such a huge play, improving these situations, while not hurting your aggro matchups.

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I agree that Elise Starseeker is going to give certain control deck more room for  counter aggro cards but I don't think meta will slow down because of that. The problem is not control deck can't beat aggro deck. It's rather the fact that an aggro deck can win 3 games while control deck can only win 1.  This is why you didn't see a lot aggro deck on Hearthstone World Championship today, but tons of them on ladder.

 This.

 Stealing a big minion is nice and all, but just like Recycle and Siphon Soul using up your entire 6th turn to take away a minion from your opponent is in no way going to help at all against a Face Hunter or any Aggro deck, who don't even play big minions and even if they do, flood the board with so many minions that removing one is not going to save you. In other words, the card enables new types of control decks, but it doesn't help the control decks actually fight against the aggro meta and therefore doesn't help slow down the meta even through the new types of control decks it creates.

Make no mistake: Entomb is for Control vs Control, not Control vs. Aggro, Tempo, or Face.

In your example, you are playing  Priest vs. a Divine Favor Paladin, which likely doesn't run any large drops (Tirion included) as the deck archetype functions on running as many low-cost cards as possible so that you can empty your hand faster than your opponent and play Divine Favor. Holding an Entomb in your hand while your opponent plays Muster For Battle, Argent Squires and Shielded Minibots with attack buffs is not going to help in the matchup at all.

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I mean, it isn't really a bug, it's just that disenchanting doesn't remove the "new" flag if you have the 2 copies. It seems like a trivial enough thing to fix though, so unless Blizzard's codebase is Riot-flavoured, I don't see why this feature can't be added in.

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Two 10-mana Anyfins for a deck that only runs 1 Murloc? I think you misunderstand how that card works. It's for 7 different Murlocs, including ones that your opponent played.

 Hm but for example, if I put just one old murky eye, it will summon 7 old murky eyes?

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Depends on what is the "custom spell", but in general I would say it's playable

i put shadow madness instead of priest of the feast to counter dreadstead

He's absolutely right. This deck has been hard countered. It's as if every deck was built around playing vs this deck. LOL

2-12.  Lost to legitimately every deck in the meta.  This deck no longer works, or else has never worked and you just got lucky.  Can't recommend. 

For the adventure - naga theme.  Highlight would be a new illidan card and a naga tribal tag. 

My simple analysis on it is that it's good.

RIP Hallazeal. All that dust down the garbage drain :(((( 

Am I seriously reading a thread of someone arguing that Madder Bomber Senior is OP?

But the C'thun players have to play a deck full of mostly just ok cards to do it and you know it is coming. Yoggs just weird. 

No, I'm having fun. I love playing right now. Tons of decks to use. Just suck it up, you lost a few times so deal with it.