Man, I hate the current meta. Everything I'd really like to play (Dude Pally, Weapon Rogue, Frenzy Warrior, Zoolock) is more or less unplayable and the only other sort of interesting deck (Rush Warrior) is so damn expensive to craft. So, left with another two months of Token Druid. /*Yawn*/
Weapon rogue is 53% winrate and zoolock is 56% right now.
Dude Pally isn't in Standard right now so I'm not sure what you mean by that. There's maybe 7 cards for it in Standard total.
Frenzy War is pretty bad in this meta so that one I'll give you.
You either only quote the best performing decks with a low sample size or low rank statistics. If you take the average over all decks from Diamond to Legend since the mini set, then Weapon Rogue is at 47.85% and Zoolock at 44.04%. Both losing decks.
Well, Dude Pally clearly exists. There are Lothraxion the Redeemed, Carnival Barker, Balloon Merchant, Day at the Faire, Stand Against Darkness, Soldier's Caravan and Pursuit of Justice, all clearly tied to this archetype. It just hasn't a top tier meta deck at the moment, and that is precisely my point.
Not quoting low sample size or low rank buddy. Weapon Rogue isn't amazing in Legend but it's still Tier 3, aka playable. Zoo doesn't really get played at legend but is still positive at Gold+.
And no, we aren't using "the average across all decks" because that's moronic, why would I include bad builds? We're talking about if you build the deck properly, not rando scrubs running budget builds.
And wow, you linked the 7 cards that I had already mentioned. Amazing. Protip, decks have 30 cards in them. Not 13. Those are just cards left over from when Dude Pally was an archetype last year, and the rest of the archetype rotated out. And they don't have enough coverage; old Dude Pally had Adapt, it had free Lions, it had Tarim, and was mainly an aggro deck. The current version has lost the aggro component so it's not a full deck anymore. A few summon cards and some +Atk doesnt make a full archetype. There's no draw, no value, etc. Hell, Balloon Merchant is literally a 4 mana +1 attack if you already played Lothraxion. Most of what was played in the old Dude pally got cycled out with core set, and there aren't enough synergies to play the deck right now. It's like riding a bike with one wheel.
First of all, I would appreciate you stopping that condescending tone of yours. While I admit I maybe was a little bit harsh questioning your stats, I still don't think I've done anything to insult you.
Second, an honest question about the VS report: Where can I find the overall stats for a certain deck? I only found specific matchups, which isn't very helpful as you would have to compare that to the popularity of those decks.
Nevermind, I just read the FAQ and apparently, what they call "Power Ranking" is just a weighted winrate, right?
Third, the stats from HSReplay Premium show what I posted above. I'm not sure how the difference is to be explained, since I don't know enough about the MO of both sites. But at least, both views have to be taken into account.
Fourth, "rando scrubs running budget builds" usually don't make it into HSR statistics up to a relevant sample size either. But if you look at different decks for a certain archetype there, you often see quite a few with a high winrate but a small sample size, while another deck for the same archetype has way more data and a more reasonable win rate. That might explain my remark about sample size. Also, bad homebrew decks will quite often be played in Platinum and below, so you can filter out quite a bit of those by looking at stats from Diamond and above, as I did.
Fifth, your remark about decks having 30 cards is true, but meaningless. There aren't 30 cards that interact with Soul Fragments and still they're played in pretty much any Control Warlock deck. I guess no reasonable Elemental Shaman deck actually runs 30 elementals. There are certain packages of synergy cards and either they fit into a top tier deck or they don't. In case of Dude Pally synergistic cards are there, but they don't have a proper fit right now. Which was what I was salty about, so I cannot comprehend, what exactly there was to argue about.
Sixth, your anecdote about old Dude Pally doesn't make much sense either. Cards like Crystal Lion and Sunkeeper Tarim might have been in Dude Pally decks of old, but they had already rotated out of standard before e. g. Lothraxion the Redeemed was even created. Meaning those cards, mostly from Madness at the Darkmoon Faire, were clearly supposed to restart that archetype. The devs even (re-)introduced some Dude Cards with the core set and Forged in the Barrens, so they probably wanted to have the archetype in standard in some way. And the archetype didn't lose much during the last rotation. There sure were some cards to consider, but I'd argue the only painful loss was Air Raid.
Seventh, as to your remark about "like riding a bike with one wheel": I've played several Dude decks in the last months and they were always quite on the edge of viability, with winrates not far below 50%. I'd say about tier 4 maybe. The statistics on VS and HSR just don't show the archetype due to low popularity. It's only missing a couple pieces, maybe a slight buff here and there and it would be a good deck. That's what I was complaining about.