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That Druid maze was a *nightmare*, I kept screwing up. I found changing the notation helpful, splitting them up by pairs of R and M moves instead of the way its rendered here. In case it helps anyone else:
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I'm sorry but this Tier list is absolutely horrible.
Rag Tier 2? He's literally one of the worst heroes to choose from. Probably within bottom 4 heroes. Patches is arguably better than Rag. It effectively does the same thing for 1 less coin. I mean, they're both bad but damn. Tier 2? No, Tier 5 easy.
Yogg is very good. He secures the early to mid games for a smooth transition into the late game. Being able to recruit a buffed minion for 2 gold is huge. Easily high end Tier 2 hero.
Toki is one of the best heroes you can pick. Probably Tier 1. Getting to Tavern 5 and guaranteeing a 6 star every single round is crazy. There aren't many 6 star minions in the pool, so getting a powerful board to secure your position and then furthering into triples wins games. Toki is pretty much guaranteed top 4 and that's only if you get unlucky. Usually 1st place. And yet you have her at Tier 5? Wow, whoever wrote this does not have a solid grasp on the Battlegrounds.
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Shudderwock tier 2 and Toki tier 5? lol this list is ABSOLUTE garbage!
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People complain that they want a new game mode, now they get one with free access and people still complain..
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Lol nobody cares about wild
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Skill is still a factor. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see the same players at the top end of Legend every season, and the same players competing in/winning tournaments all the time. I think the big difference now is there are a lot of viable decks in the game at the moment (Tier 1 alone according to HSReplay contains 6 decks, and there are a further 11 with win rates higher than 50%). Because of this we are running into a lot of different matchups on ladder and it is not as straightforward to learn them all. People often downplay skill in this game and say that Hearthstone is super easy, everyone is playing optimally once you get past rank 5 etc, but this is an ignorant attitude. Its easy to make the obvious play each turn and assume it was optimal, but it often is not. Players do not always realise this and fail to understand why they are not making progress.
You see it all the time on these forums "I'm stuck at rank X, what's wrong with me?" It is as simple as - that is the rank your current skill level permits you to achieve, and you need to improve your skills, deck or both in order to proceed.Lol, Skillstone has been dead for quite some time. High legend players simply play significantly more hours; it’s their job, afterall. With enough time, the numbers game plays out and somewhat evens out.
Skill is somewhat an issue, maybe 10-20%, 30% at the absolute max. Topdecks and RNGesus decide the vast majority of games.
If you play 8 hours every day and you're shit, your rank will be shit. If the average rank 5-1 player puts in the hours of a professional, (unless they recognise and address mistakes in their play) they will still finish between 5 and 1 every season. You are right that the numbers game will play out, but it won't put you at top legend - the more frequently you play, the more likely it will put you exactly at the rank you belong.
We see this in the gaming world all the time. Look at League of Legends. Everyone thinks they're God's absolute gift to Summoner's Rift and sit in the same league season after season because they are so deluded about their own skill level.
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I was thinking mage, but balance druids are basically mages.
She likes exploring nature and junk in ungoro so it's not a big stretch
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I'm just gonna be the edgy contrarian here and say that these buffs are a bad idea.
Basically what they are doing is enforcing SPECIFIC cards and saying "how about you play this, it's better now"
Like, some of these cards are still basically useless despite the buffs (Boomzooka pretty much is no different than before. If there wasn't a deck for it then there's not gonna be one now) But then you have some stuff like Thunderhead (which is already pretty good and mostly held back by the fact that there just isn't any deck that really uses it right now) or the two Warrior mechs which will never be included in any actual deck but now you've basically just buffed Omega Assembly and Boom MAd Genius
I mean, I'm glad that cards like Extra Arms and Dr. Morrigan which were seemingly deliberately understatted were made more...appropriate, but I feel like this set a dangerous precedent where Blizzard can basically decide which archetype works out by just retroactively buffing them into viability.
Like...buffing Pogo Hopper is really unnecessary. The entire deck is basically JAdes + Quest Rogue on steroids and only held back by the fact that Rogue can do fuck all to actually protect themselves to stall until their hoppers are big enough.
If they wanted to actually buff cards, why didn't they go for the ones that were negatively affected by nerfs (for example buffing stuff like Cannon Barrage and Necrium Vial now that Prep is nerfed)
I'm still looking forward to see how this plays out but I dislike the idea of Blizzard being the ones who decide which decks are being played. Part of the game is trying new cards and seeing whether they can work. King Krush was terrible until Kathrena came along. Now we won't even need future support cards to reshape archetypes if they can just buff stuff into playability. With this logic we would have never gotten stuff like Jeklik, Shriek or Reckless Diretroll...they#D just buff the Quest Reward to push Quest Warlock.
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First of all, on message boards, you will mostly see players who play a lot and concern themselves with the game a lot. You will see many Rank 5-L players here. However, there is a HUGE number of players who are just casually playing "Casual", or play some games on Rank 20-15, or lower, or just come online for some Tavern Brawl fun, or are invisible on Ranks 50-20... those are millions. Your Rank 3000 Legend means you are one of a few thousand out of MILLIONS. Just being able to play on a competetive level with reasonable success, even reaching higher ranks, not to mention legend, is putting you way above average already, really.
You probably want to know what the "community", the vocal minority of committed, enthusiastic players considers "good". Before I get to that, I will just tell you where I'm at, so you can see for yourself whether you find my opinion worth considering, whether or not I belong to the group of people who can answer your question.
I consider myself "average" in the "hardcore player" perspective. I know some play better, I know many play worse. I know I sometimes make the wrong decision, like playing too carefully and holding cards back way too long, or going with first instinct too often instead of properly assessing what I should and shouldn't do at a given situation. I don't use Decktracker, so I can't tell you what my average winrate is. As for numbers and ranks: I can reach rank 5 and higer if I really try, which I oftentimes don't. I mostly play Casual and Tavern Brawl if I like the Brawl, and every once in a while, I try some ladder. Across the entire month, I usually spend less than 10 hours in Ranked. My highest ranks are 3 in Standard and 4 in Wild. Could I reach legend? I never tried so far. I play for over 3 years, almost daily, close to 8000 wins, and not a single golden hero - I just don't care enough.
My opinion on the subject:
Sure enough, good players will get to higher ranks or legend or high on legend faster/more likely, and there's no denying that. But not every "good" player will try as hard as others to get there, since it still takes a lot of time and the right mindset and patience to go through that process.
I think the playstyle and attitude, not necessarily the accomplishments, make a player "good". Not everyone can be champion or Rank 1 Legend or Top 50 Arena Player, but there is a clear difference between someone who just picked up the game, someone who grinds and climbs without really knowing what he's doing, and people who actually play well. Like how you plan your turns and consider those of your opponent, making smart choices, knowing when to control the board and when to push for damage, how to come back from a bad position, etc. There's also a difference between people who play properly, and people who BM as much as they can and harrass others. And there's people who only blame RNG and never themselves, instead of looking at what they could have done differently.
Matchup, draw and other random factors can and will still greatly affect a good number of your games. But if you know what you are doing, if you can adapt to different playstyles and strategies and make good decisions, you are, in my eyes, a good player. But ultimately, it depends on how much room you see for improvement. If you really care about being "good", then try to get better regardless.
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Thanks for the transparency Flux, it's sad to know that Innkeeper won't be updated but I'm glad that you are telling us this upfront.
Yeah, I gave people an opportunity to get an update out. I wish there was more transparency on things but hey, beggars can't be choosers. FeelsBadMan
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I do think some of the quest (the easier ones) could have a more expensive reward, i dont think priest or rogue need it for example but i havent played much so i could be wrong.
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aggro matchups are really and i have no experience with the mech paladin deck but i played a bit of face hunter, i believe in this matchup the hunter is the one pressed for time he needs to close the game early because the threat of you landing a zilliax in a big mech is higher the more it goes on, so in your words he would be the beatdown since he want to win before your bigger plays go online. you can also see it this way he cant really defend himself so he needs to beat you first
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you will get 1 legendary in the first 10 packs of an expansion so i am guessing theres some of it, but yeah lucky for sure
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So can we get both bundles? i think they would like more money so i dont really believe it but could be only one for a som on theme reasonning
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guys that say we need more control decks should understand that CW is the deck that kills other controls decks since it can keep up or even outvalue while being better against aggro decks, strong aggro decks dont make it so theres is only 1 control deck, a control deck that is at the same time the ultmate anti aggro and value generator decks does.
The Boom nerf seemed fine for me as did the galaxy nerf, you really should not want to keep a 5 or 7 mana card in your hand in most matchups
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oyu mean the old way where there was nothing? the reason they let people use any number of copies is so people dont start playing and trying the new meta right noe too much, also you cant craft or buy extra packs so you dont have every card you could have this way you get less sad when you open a duplicate
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druid has more aoe buffs and this is always in your control since people cant proc the secret turn 3
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Hey i cant win so its broken. fix it now!
I can see it being hard for people that never played with some of the cards since theres some older ones, but theres no way you getting 0 and 1 wins runs is just lack of sinergy and pure rng.
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i am pretty sure he meant he would bet a preorder and 100 more packs that it wont happen in pro events, nothing to do with how you get your cards
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well its hard to say if you are thinking only about fatigue then its when you have no cards left, it also depends on what cards you still have in the deck, the number of cards in your hand and also all other shudderwock battlecries and board situation.