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I'm going to give a crude example of why I think it is confusing.  If you can silence the targeted minion to prevent it from dying when Voodoo Doll is destroyed, then wouldn't it make sense that you could silence, lets say, Bonemare to remove the buff from its targeted minion.

You're basically silencing the selection.

 Not really the thing is the Doll places a debuff on a minion the debuff only activates once the deathrattle is activated so when you sillence the Voodoo Doll you dont let the deathrattle triger so hte debuff is there it just  cant be activated, when you silence the minion you remove the debuff from it so when the deathrattle trigers theres no debuff as if the minion is already dead. When you transform a minion its a new minion with no relation with any buff/debuff it had they make it clear in the patch that its hoe it should and will work now.

Bonemare places a buff on a minion, the 5/5 does nothing it has just battlecry the body has no effects.

even warlock inst that strong your deck just gets countered.

Tempo mage and odd/miracle rogue should do it for you, i dont think Big Spell mage is that good if your opponent knows what he is doing. i am 6-1 with evenlock against it and 3-2 as big spell mage right now when facing evenlock.

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Adventures are not coming back give up, but you can play content for free each expansion since Kobolds.

The thing is 10 packs for 1 person makes no diference 10 packs for everyone is a lot of money (at least 10 dolars/player and how many are there 10 m, 20m ?? ).

Pre order with gold is not going to happen, what blizz gets by doin that ?? just farm and buy them at launch.

About the card power you know that legendary cards are cards that you shoulndt get to place 2 of them in a deck right ? imagine if they made a epic oakheart ?? a rare Sunkeeper?? Common Shudderwock and Grumble ?? doenst look good for me.

No colection card game is really free to play friendly if you want the max experience you need the full colection so you either play or farm all you can every day.

Also everyone that makes those post forgets about nice stuff that gives us more gold/dust The Tavern of Time, Ragnaros Festival, Winter Festival all that costs money to make and also give us free stuff.

 

Lemme clear this up for you.

1. I said I WISH they would, not that they WILL.

2. ??? I don’t understand what you’re saying.  If what you mean is it costs Blizzard $10 for every 10 packs each player gets, you need to rethink that.

3. Again.  I wish it would be the case, but don’t expect it.

4. You obviously didn’t get the point of the card power section, please reread it so I don’t have to restate it. 

5. Kinda?  The point I’m trying to get across is the game could be a lot more F2P friendly.  Overall, it isn’t, while it could and should be.

6. Uh, what?  It doesn’t cost them much, if anything.  Sure, it’s free stuff, but its only around once every three months at most, which doesn’t make the new player experience better.

Overall I think you missed all the points completely.  I don’t mean that in a rude way, I just think you should reread it and reevaluate what I said.

Also, about not having all the cards I want - I could probably disenchant lots of them, I just play lots of off-meta decks.  That’s all - it isn’t lacking, per se, as I have all the ones I need.  It’s a matter of me trying to make tons of decks which are usually expensive.

All in all, this is just my opinion.  I wish these changes would happen even though they won’t.

 2. Think about it as a whole if everyone get 10 packs on average they will sell 10 paks less, people just wont need to buy them and you should remember that making everyone on every server get 10 paks on login costs money even if just a little.

4. I just said legendary cards have the most powerfull/ rare texts, so the best decks will need those powerfull or unique cards to work( some need it lesse like Zoo) but most tier 1-2 decks will look to abuse some of those cards. Even if they wanted to print it on non legendary cards it would make the balance of the game really bad ( just think about those examples and how some decks would be more broken)

6. Coding, making, testing events and special cards costs time and money to do and they coud just not do them and repeat brawls and leave arena alone forever.

Also its really easy to miss your point when half your topics are I wish decks were cheaper, i wish legendary cards were cheaper, I wish they gave us more packs,, I wish they would make sales for packs ( And they did do that). I know you didnt mean just that but they sound like it. I also really want, but theres no way those things will happen and maybe they really shouldnt, so i just look the bright side and enjoy the free PVE content we had when i feel like i played my ladder decks way too much or go and do some arena runs.

I also dont mean it in rude way but theres no way to make all off meta decks and not spend way too much time or/and money on the game. I really want to make a galvadon pally, but i cant afford it if i also want 1 more viable ladder deck or a cool/key card from next expansion.

I believe it can a new spell of any class remember thats how scrolls works i hope another class gets it mage has polymorph already

Adventures are not coming back give up, but you can play content for free each expansion since Kobolds.

The thing is 10 packs for 1 person makes no diference 10 packs for everyone is a lot of money (at least 10 dolars/player and how many are there 10 m, 20m ?? ).

Pre order with gold is not going to happen, what blizz gets by doin that ?? just farm and buy them at launch.

About the card power you know that legendary cards are cards that you shoulndt get to place 2 of them in a deck right ? imagine if they made a epic oakheart ?? a rare Sunkeeper?? Common Shudderwock and Grumble ?? doenst look good for me.

No colection card game is really free to play friendly if you want the max experience you need the full colection so you either play or farm all you can every day.

Also everyone that makes those post forgets about nice stuff that gives us more gold/dust The Tavern of Time, Ragnaros Festival, Winter Festival all that costs money to make and also give us free stuff.

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So you are mad that instead of getting a max of 50 packs in the 1/1 ratio you can choose to get 80 and a skin with it ?? You say they used events to the skins could you please tell what was Magni Event?? Or any of the 3 that you pay for it + a cardback ?? Its really good getting 80 for 80 or even 130 for 130, its worse than last expansion, and thats sad, but its just like every other expansion.

 It's not actually "worse" they are throwing in a free golden legendary. I am not sure that a golden legendary = 20 packs, but it's kind of closeish

 Its slight worse on dust and if you want a big number of packs because you dont have the all rare and epic cards(its a new expansion so you dont)  the 50$ is close to 60-62 packs i believe instead of the 16 since you should open some of the cards you dont have.

So you are mad that instead of getting a max of 50 packs in the 1/1 ratio you can choose to get 80 and a skin with it ?? You say they used events to the skins could you please tell what was Magni Event?? Or any of the 3 that you pay for it + a cardback ?? Its really good getting 80 for 80 or even 130 for 130, its worse than last expansion, and thats sad, but its just like every other expansion.

You should have 65% winrate against Shudder by HSReplay if you play recruit hunter so really just learn the matchup a bit more and you should see the results 

Hey guys if you just want to bash on shudderwock and never try to use a sound argument please go to the Salt thread

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And like B Kibler stated on Raaza AnduinDK : The only way to interact with those decks is aggro wich is also not something I am particularly happy about ( or something like that) . 

The same old problem over and over again..... If Blizzard makes an OTK deck viable and right now the meta is slow enough for Shudderwock to be even very good, we have a problem.

 Lol. The only aggro deck Odd Rogue either loses out the board to endless Volcano,Lightning Storm and Hagatha or cant pass through Taunts and Glacial Shard. Hahahahahhaha

 While Odd rogue really loses little to ShudderWock(53,8%) Miracle, Even and (Suprise) Quest rogue destroys it(60-65% win rate) also the 3 tier 1 (Even Shaman, Odd Pally, Recruit Hunter)decks all win against it 2 of those are aggro but sure go say things and not look at stats to counter what you want.

All stats by HSReplay

Man can they just make one topic about Shudderwock so i dont see a new post complaining about a T3 deck that need 10 mana for the combo and cant ...

People just need to learn to play against it and understand that if you play control you should expect losing against it, but really guys the decks loses to elemental mage the no spell one a deck that has no strong minions until turn 4 ( a 4/5 ) and no goods 5(just a 5/5 that draws but remember operative?) and 6 drops if you play any aggro or midrange you should win most of time. The deck has a 45% winrate against recruit warrior man.

But for the guy that said the combo is RNG i play the double murmuring elemental and the guy that makes elementals cost 1 less so you can be sure that you will get it back if you play a discounted one and shudderwock on turn 10, i dont run zola and hagatha and drakes though to run more draw and this package.

Brrrloc x 2
Doomsayer x 2
Fire Plume Harbinger
Loot Hoarder x 2
Murmuring Elemental x 2
Acolyte of Pain x 2
Far Sight x 2
Healing Rain x 2
Lightning Storm x 2
Mana Tide Totem
Lifedrinker x 2
Sandbinder x 2
Saronite Chain Gang x 2
Tidal Surge x 2
Volcano x 2
Grumble, Worldshaker
Shudderwock

Thats my list.

The only problem is the lack of a dirty rat type card.

Shudderwock isnt really that good, just tier 3 by HSReplay and 48,7 win rate, but any control deck loses to combo decks.If you want to play a slower deck you must also be able to get punished, its just somethings that happens. Quest rogue should still do just the same against control and crushes Shudderwock. If no combo decks keeps control in check it wil just result in even more greede in control decks.

Also the Razakus priest was just way better because its combo was like get raza get anduin, ping until you win and raza on 5 was just so much heal 

The only real problem with discover is the first expansion in standart year the low amount of cards makes getting class cards realy easy (looking at you stonehill defender) or if you have a really strong evergreen set makes the average result better than it should be ( primordial glyph can get good results most of the time ).

The biggest offender was Hystorian and its now in wild, 40% of a duskbreaker was way too much.

How is even pally good right now??

And just like people said before odd pally has no comebak mechanic if you get a little tempo on them you can easily take the game. Just remember to make sure they have 1 recruit at max on turn 5-6 it should be fine.