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It’s literally been a couple hours.  Give it a few days and come back.

People keep talking about no minion mage like it wasn’t a completely garbage deck a month ago.  No one cared about Apexis blast or incanters overflow until the rotation.  The only new tool the deck got was refreshing springwater, and that’s likely the only thing keeping the deck afloat.

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Nuking the posts was unnecessary. 3-health 2-mana and 4-health 3-mana "can't attack" minions are unplayable. Now get ready for some aggro resurgence. 

 The 2 mana watch tower was hugely OP at 4 health.  Not much could kill it except aggro on turn 2 or 3.  If you landed 2 on the board your opponent basically loses and that’s not healthy for the game at all.

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Devolving missiles can easily screw the caster in many cases, especially when there are multiple enemies on board.  For what it does I think it’s fair, but I also get frustration of your opponent having it at the worst time for you.

 I mean a 1 mana spell not saving you from your opponent's lethal board isn't really it "screwing you over". I guess theoretically it can increase the stats of a minion potentially, but that rarely happens.

It's much more likely to cost your opponent a game.

 I’ve seen it turn weaker minions into stronger minions many times, or completely ignore the minion you want to devolve.  My personal favorite it when you’re trying to remove a deathrattle or taunt minion, and the enemy gets evolved in an equally annoying deathrattle/taunt minion.  People keep comparing it to hex or polymorph but those were guaranteed outcomes and very beneficial.  Devolving missiles is a coin toss in some situations.

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I don't see how the non-C'thun version of control warrior has much to worry about with Tickatus.

But, if you're having a different experience, just play the Silas/Ashtongue win condition.  Their armor vendors will help you get there.  And yes, I'm aware you're totally dependent on drawing Silas, just as they are totally dependent on drawing Tickatus.

The reality of the matchup is warrior will come out over 50%.

 damn this dude is in every thread speaking nonsense. Just a simple internet troll

 No he actually believes what he’s saying but he also doesn’t understand the difference between a combo deck and a control deck.

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20-11 against Tick lock with Silas.  And counting . . .

Can’t even find Silas Warrior on HS replay.  The only deck on HS replay that uses Silas as far as I can tell is 1 version of control lock.  It’s entirely possible your success is from people not knowing what they’re playing against.  Kudos for that at the very least, but without more widespread data it’s hard to say with any certainty.

Just throwing this out there though, what you describe is a combo deck and not a control deck.  Combo decks generally are good against control.

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20-11 against Tick lock with Silas.  And counting . . .

Can’t even find Silas Warrior on HS replay.  The only deck on HS replay that uses Silas as far as I can tell is 1 version of control lock.  It’s entirely possible your success is from people not knowing what they’re playing against.  Kudos for that at the very least, but without more widespread data it’s hard to say with any certainty.

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Also, everybody here seems to be under the impression that every Control Warrior game would be versus Warlock.  Even if Control Warrior's matchup against Controllock is bad, there's still 9 classes OTHER than Warlock that exist and see some amount of play.  "Control can't exist if Tickatus exists" is an almost insane - absolutist - statement that goes contrary to how card games even work.  A deck being the best of its kind doesn't preclude other decks of its kind from existing.  And the amount of nuance that could go into playing the Control Warrior mirror, or against any other class (nuance which I thought Control players would be excited about since they get to wrinkle their brains while they play Hearthstone) is totally lost because Tickatus has everybody so scared to even consider other control options.

Even if a change in approach is required to deal with Tickatus, which I've already talked about, it wouldn't be a variant on the deck itself, it would just be how you play the matchup.  Every matchup requires a different approach for most decks.

If anything, and people have mentioned this already, Lord Juraxxus is the far bigger issue for Control matchups.  2 mana for a 6/6 every turn is a far larger issue than Tick could impose, one that Warrior doesn't have the card generation to deal with for long if the game hits fatigue.  Maybe we'll get some Dead Man's Hand retrain or something in the mini set, Blizzard is more aware than we think of things like this, they're just never preemptive.

 It’s not that it can’t exist, it’s that it can’t be very competitive.  There’s always fringe decks on ladder, that’s a given.  It doesn’t mean they’re relevant or good.  The moment a control deck gets played a reasonable amount, control lock will pop up to slap it down.  That’s what we mean by oppressive.

Control lock will suppress any other control deck.  There’s a reason warrior isn’t prevalent on ladder right now 

I made a token druid deck to counter all these spell mages on ladder.  Spoilers, all of a sudden no spell mages the moment I queue the deck.  But I did match up a control lock player...and got the nut opening.  Gibberling into coin into innervate into lightning bloom into pride’s fury turn 1 and gibberling into call of the wild turn 3.  Craziest opening I’ve ever had in any deck.  Needless to say he conceded.  I felt really really bad though and added him.  He laughed and said he’d rather get slapped by a 1 in 100 token druid play than spell mage every game.  You meet some chill people that way.  Anyone else have plays that just left them wanting to take a shower?

as someone who usually finished between rank 5 and rank 3 it feels pretty rewarding to blow through the bronze silver and gold ranks on huge winstreak multipliers. i have not yet reached Dia10 (=old rank 5), but i only played like 10 games so far and i'm already plat. loosing 1 star while gaining anything from 4 to 16+ stars per win feels great and takes away a lot of the ladder anxiety.

also as someone who used the monthly golden epic as dust, i think i will get more dust through the new reward system, if i just play like usual and aim for rank 5 (dia10), which is nice.

another plus: with the new mmr based match making, if i dont play for a month, i don't have to feel bad crushing rank 12 players with fast ladder aggro decks until i get back to my desired rank

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It is now MUCH harder to get to Diamond 5 than it was to get to Rank 5 in the old system. 

 then why did it take me only 3 days (about 5 hrs each session) to get there ? I'am a pretty mediocre player by all means lol (NEVER made to legendary in the old one, only rank 1)

Will probably get to Legendary this month tho, since 15 wins in a row from Diamond 5 seems do-able, but I'am by no means in a rush. Just saying its WAY easier now. Any serious Grinder who lives inside Hearthstone should have a blast.

Also I'am predicting around 20k - 25k Legendary ranked players at the end of this month, more than twice as many as in the old system, so its not gonna be anything special anymore.

As a f2p player I usually find 70 packs is enough for 2 meta decks if I'm frugal.  (Not taking every legendary in a highlander deck for instance)

I think you have enough there to play at least the top 10-12 decks.  Maybe not every deck, but if you only care about tier 1 and 2 you should be fine.

No! It R not swet.

Flawz all ovr.

System bad.
4-D chess!
Conceeeeedeee meta

I've played 4 games and I'm at silver 9 with Highlander Mage... I just got a classic pack and 4 rare cards... So far, I'm enjoying the new system.

I'm sorry to everyone that isn't happy. Hopefully you find important things that bring a higher level of importance to your lives, so you don't have to find conspiracy in mundane online card GAMES. 

It's always upsetting to see how negatively games can impact people's lives, but also pretty reassuring. If a change in the rewards system of an online game is impacting your life in such a negative manner that you need to hover around a message board in protest, it's sad you don't have better things going on, but great that you don't have more negative things going on.

With all the money I've put into it I damn sure better be having fun or I could be spending that money on hookers or huffing paint or betting on cock fighting or any number of things. Or, given what I've spent over the years I could probably take multiple hookers out for a delightful night of betting on cock fights while huffing paint. 

For many expansions I only play in few weeks after release and after that only complete the daily quests, usually you see only the 2 or 3 meta decks over and over and that is boring as hell to me.

Everything chance with this new recent expansion, before nerfs I concede vs shamans and have a lot of fun with everyone else and after the nerfs I can't complain much, the only thing keeping me to say this is the absolute best moment in HS history is the struggle of one of my favorite classes is suffer now, if mage get back in your feets with the new adventure will be awesome, other than that the meta is great, you can play aggro, midrange, control, combo, highlander, etc...

For reference, Naxxramas had 30 cards, Blackrock Mountain had 31, and League of Explorers & Karazhan had 45 each.

Blackrock is the closest to the 35 cards we'll be getting in the upcoming expansion.  So, I would expect 2 class cards each and 13 neutral cards.  Those 4 other cards I hope go to the "Explorer" classes in a way to balance out the Legendary count since the EVIL classes got Galakrond.

They could be hero cards themselves or maybe new Legendary Spells.  Either way, something to level the playing field lore wise would be fun.

Ignoring pretty much everything but the op posting (for a good reason):

The artwork is a bit childish, but it's much more flavorful than you give it credit for. The dragon looks like a dorky boy scout that tells kids to look left and right before crossing the streets. As that, he's a perfect fit for Paladins: goody two-shoes lawful idiots. ONLY a Paladin would want to hang out with such a dragon. 

The artwork is intentionally silly. It's meant to stick out among the dragons to remind everyone that Paladins are dorks.

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I do this to aggro players and people who play RNG decks on ladder.  Is it petty, hell yes.  But it makes me feel better after their annoying shenanigans, especially if they’ve been losing for a while and kept trying to RNG a win.

 i always rope and emote before i silence the turn 4 apothecary. i guess i'm the devil now.