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Unpopular opinion: I like the nerfs. They did not kill a single card (well except for Bloodbloom) and that was their goal as they told many times.

Quote from Konzo12 >>

For standard cards, I think nerfs should look like this:

Sacrificial Pact - 1 mana, sacrifice friendly demon. Restore 7 health.

Battlefiend after your hero attacks, gain 1 attack this turn

Altruis the Outcast deal dmg to minions only

Kael'thas Sunstrider the third spell you cast cost 0

Skull of Gul'dan 6 mana, draw 3, outcast draw 4

Bad Luck Albatross 4 mana 3/2 battlecry and deathrattle: shuffle 1 albatross to opponent's deck

frienzied felwing every time enemy hero receives damage, decrease cost by 1 this turn

Satyr Overseer 3/3 after this minion attacks, summon satyr 2/2

 That would straight up be a buff to Satyr Overseer. I agree with your other suggestions though. (Maybe Albatross is a bit overdone too)

Quote from Perothvius >>

And why nerf Bloodbloom instead of Darkest hour? Bloodbloom it was never a toxic card since they printed darkest hour.

 It's the accelerator of the deck. And you won't kill the deck when you just nerf this card. It's just way less oppressive.

Same goes for Open the Waygate. I think they bumb up the cards you need to play to something like 8. That is a big deal.

I find it confusing, especially for new players. It would make sense to kill treants, but because they do not have a tag yet it doesnt count.

I think blizzard should give all treants a tag.

Quote from RushingMonkey >>

Quote from DearCustomer >>

Priestess of fury is beyond op, everybody agrees with that right? So I'm glad there is some op answer to it. Dh has 1 mana hero power, that's op. He has op 1 and 2 drops. Yes it is fair for warlock to have some op heal spell otherwise control warlock would be unplayable.

I agree the design of sac pact should be changed but then dh (and not only dh)  needs more nerfs

Unpopular opinion: Priestess is only OP when cheated out early (turn 5 following Raging Felscreamer) or heavily discounted via Skull of Guldan which allow you to play her along with something else.

If you pay the full 7 mana cost for her, she's strong, REALLY strong in most cases... but not "OP". 7-drops and above are supposed to be game-winningly powerful.

If the board state on turn 7 is favorable for your DH opponent for a Priestess play, and you have no hard removal in hand, and he's threatening lethal next turn then yes, it's basically an insta-win for him. AS IT SHOULD.

 You are right. I cut Priestess from my DH decks as she is way to slow and Warlocks are just waiting to use Sac Pact on her.

Why not lowering the curve? You improve your winrate a lot against Warlocks and bfore you rarely needed her against the other classes. The exception is Highlander DH, but that deck is just  balanced.

I see his point.

I made some changes to my list, because i drew Patches way too often, as well as Happy Ghouls didn't perform that well. Maybe it's interesting for you/others as well.

I'm currently trying 1 Cobalt Spellkin, but i can even imagine to put a Chief Inspector in, just to counter Quest Mages and/or Secret Mages. Hunters are collateral damage. :D

This way you also have enough 1 drops to combo with Altruis the Outcast and ensure to have a good opening hand.

BTW: Hench-Clan Thug is really good with Warglaives of Azzinoth.

### Odd Demon Hunter
# Class: Demon Hunter
# Format: Wild
#
# 2x (1) Battlefiend
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Crimson Sigil Runner
# 1x (1) Mana Burn
# 2x (1) Shadowhoof Slayer
# 2x (1) Ur'zul Horror
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 1x (3) Altruis the Outcast
# 2x (3) Bad Luck Albatross
# 1x (3) Eye Beam
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Satyr Overseer
# 1x (5) Cobalt Spellkin
# 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept
# 1x (5) Loatheb
# 1x (5) Metamorphosis
# 1x (5) Warglaives of Azzinoth
# 2x (7) Priestess of Fury
# 1x (9) Baku the Mooneater
#
Deck Code: AAEBAea5Awj6Dp74AoGxA8y6A8O8A8S8A8fGA/LJAwum7wL9sAOHugOjuwPmuwO6xgPUyAPXyAP3yAP5yAP+yAMA

I think they are balanced (much more usable than most quests) and will see play, mostly in highlander decks or (worst case) after next years rotation. Just be a bit patient.

But i think some are really strong. Like the rogue, warrior, druid, mage, paladin or warlock ones.

The Hunter prime has potential, but is kinda mediocre just like the priest one.

The only one that's just bad is the shaman-prime.

Interesting list, but if anyone is struggling i'm advising this Version:

I have a lot of success using Mana Burn instead of Glacial Shard denying powerturns like Reno Jackson or Priestess of Fury for my opponent while just freezing won't do the trick for me.

I found Metamorphosis more useful than Leeroy Jenkins, because you can just shoot taunts out of the way or hit face through taunts which seems to happens a lot in this meta for me.

Because we have quite some heal i play 2 Happy Ghoul instead of Tar Creeper (why a defensive card?) and Altruis the Outcast. It is often a 0 Mana 3/3 that can really help to establish a board early and snowball the game from this point, while the other two do fit only niche roles (you do not have a lot of activators for Altruis without the 0 Mana Slices).

Last but not least due to the synergy between Satyr Overseer and Warglaives of Azzinoth i use them instead of the Cobalt Spellkin. As a side effect you can remove almost every board from your opponent and hit face with your minions.

### Odd Demon Hunter
# Class: Demon Hunter
# Format: Wild
#
# 2x (1) Battlefiend
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Crimson Sigil Runner
# 2x (1) Mana Burn
# 1x (1) Patches the Pirate
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 2x (3) Bad Luck Albatross
# 2x (3) Eye Beam
# 2x (3) Happy Ghoul
# 2x (3) Satyr Overseer
# 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept
# 1x (5) Loatheb
# 1x (5) Metamorphosis
# 2x (5) Warglaives of Azzinoth
# 2x (7) Priestess of Fury
# 1x (9) Baku the Mooneater
#
Deck Code: AAEBAea5AwT6DpG8Ap74AsO8Aw3UBZ/OAv2wA4e6A8S8A7rGA8fGA9TIA9fIA/fIA/nIA/7IA/LJAwA=

@OP: What do you think of my version? Do you agree on my choices?

Quote from deldan12 >>

is this new meta going to be a four month of demo hunter?

Not really, there are plenty of decks that do well, now that the nerfs are online.

Odd Demon Huntr was just one of the stupidest thing that has ever happened. I'd say it was even stronger than Undertaker Hunter.

Quote from DudeVonDudestein >>

The salt levels are higher than the Dead Sea.

 Yeah, the expansion isn't out a day and people are already complaining. Is that how you act in real life too, folks?

Quote from memo333 >>

cant understand this bliztard idio////ts ...how IS POSSIBLE that THE GAME IS FINE and they make new content and THINGS IN THE PAST GET SCREWED UP? wtf...............

 Yes, you can't understand. Because you don't know how coding works apparently. So, stop bitching.

Bugs are part of software development, I don't really understand all the anger. There are measures to limit bugs but as code grows it becomes very complicated and bugs can creep in. Users are very good at doing things you not been able to test for. I would be surprised if any high end software was realised bug free. 

"Old" things can be effected just as easily as new

The smartest thing to do would be to not fall for this scam at all.

I've not tried Windshear Stormcaller but I've always had more success with the spell damage variant of Odd Shaman with Arcane Watcher as an early game powerhouse.  Having +1 or +2 spell damage from totems makes cards like Totemic Smash and Forked Lightning surprisingly viable.

Both Fireheart and Ras are excellent in Odd Shaman (i would recommend getting them both if you can as both are really fun cards to play).

Quote from Thaulopi >>

I play Gala-Priest / High-lander Priest and Combo Priest and have lost every single game for three days now. It seems, I am too dumb for control, could somebody post a nice OTK deck? I only need a few wins for the golden Portrait. Thank you, friends

 blud i'm not surprised priest is one of the hardest classes to pilot in hearthstone. only true pro's can play priest to its full ability.

Quote from nexit1337 >>

it's just a small indie company

I absolutely love when somebody post this statement.  It's just so funny, because, because, as you know, Blizzard is not a "small indie company".  But what you've done, you've gone and said that they are.  You, you little devil you, you're implying that a major AAA game developer is a "small indie company", because sometimes, sometimes they make mistakes, and you, you would expect mistakes like that from a "small indie company".  Not one with the experience and man power as Blizzard.  You're, you're trying to say that this is the best Blizzard can do, but it's really not.  Every move Blizzard makes is like they are some start up gaming company. You, you're being sarcastic in calling them a "small indie company", when in fact ,they really are not.  I see what you, and hundreds of other posters are trying to get at. I get it. Good one.  Good one indeed. You, you keep up that good work in pointing out their flaws.  I'm, I'm gonna keep my eye on you. You, You're something special.  Well done sir. Well done indeed.

You know 5000 MMR is dumpster MMR and you are playing against all bad players, right?

At 5000 MMR, the players do all sort of goofy things that make your head spin like play Ysera and stay at level 2 getting tons of fire-breather triples.

Too much damage. Too much damage. from the mid-game through to the late game.

Its not fun to have a decent build going and suddenly be blown out for 35 damage. Especially in games where you know you had a chance to win, but attack RNG sinks you. If you're sunk by RNG you shouldn't be taking this kind of damage, ever. Yet it happens, and frequently.

It's not fun to have half the lobby dead after a few mid-game turns (turn 11 or thereabouts). Fundamentally this because you only get the freedom to start picking minions and making decisions on the direction of your build, rather than just taking what you are given when you hit the mid-game.

Some heroes need to be weaker than others, tokens need to do damage, RNG does need need to swing games, I understand why these frequent complaints don't get answered. However considering the general power creep in the game that leads to the above two problems I mentioned, I don't really think 40hp is suitable health total to start with, especially for the much weaker heroes. We already have Patchwork on 50hp (and frankly he needs another buff at this point, but that is a seperate minor issue), maybe its time to start staggering the health pools between hereos more to give balance, and maybe just generally increasing the hp totals across the board as well?

Is it me or they nerfed this deck by having shorter turns? I saw the rope barely 20 seconds into my turn.

Edit: Same thing second game, I barely have time to draw half of my decks I already see the rope, didn't happen last time with this tavern brawl.

Edit2: Third game, exact same thing, rope when my deck still has 20 cards in it, literally played only 4 spells. Impossible to OTK, just not enough time.