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    posted a message on It Is Impossible To Balance Shaman?

    It's because they have a broken core card set (basic + classic). There are essentially no core cards in that set, there are no build up cards and you could argue there is no identity to the class. However, there are loads of finishers and super efficient burst. That means that in order for Shaman to work, you need to introduce in large numbers very strong core and build up cards in expansion sets. Once there's enough of those, Shaman suddenly becomes broken because of all the available burst. It's all or nothing with this class.

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    posted a message on DoD - Show of your Legendary Unpack

    176 packs
    7 legendaries, no golden ones
    Got my first leg in the 10th pack, and then 3 times I had to wait for 38 packs to open a leg.
    I was regreting the prepurchase just before the expansion launched - it feels really underwhelming and frankly boring. The ladder experience recently was terrible - even worse than usual.
    And after this... I don't even feel like playing the game.

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    posted a message on No new daily quest on EU?

    same thing

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    posted a message on Buy singles?

    They are selling singles, it's called crafting and it's pretty expensive, so they don't put the price upfront.

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    posted a message on Question about free packs event
    • Make sure you have 2 dailies in your quest log before the fun starts on March 26 at 11:59 p.m. PDT in Americas and 23:59 CEST in Europe.

    https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/4474-save-those-dailies-year-of-the-raven-celebratory

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    posted a message on The Pepper Thread - Share your good vibes!

    The dude-a-din deck is pretty  scary and I'm sure the guy on the other end would love to post this story to the salt thread.

    First off the deck is fun because it uses a lot of cards that always looked promissing but never seemed to work.

    Well, some of the cards have seen so little play that I've messed up. I've messed up really, really badly.

    The board was empty, it's my turn, I've got 5 mana and I've got 3 or 4 cards in hand.
    To the left I've got the 5 mana spam-the-dudes spell and right next to it is the 5 mana buff-the-dudes spell.

    Guess which one I've played? Yeap - 5 mana-do-nothing.
    I felt like just conceding the game, but i gave it a try and... won.
    Though  honestly the deck might be really broken good against Dragon Priest because how easily it floods the board. My opponent was a pro (golden cardback) and had decent answers and still lost that game.

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    posted a message on What about your legendaries drop rate?

    1 in 38, hype train derailed

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    posted a message on How Bonemare is responsible for devastating the meta
    Quote from Wellingt0n >>
    Quote from AJAvalanche >>
    Quote from Wellingt0n >>

    The reason I feel like Bonemare is ok is not that I would not agree - Yes it is too strong - but rather that it is a very good common card (like Cobalt Scalebane).

    Itwould be unhealthy for the game if there were no good cheap cards. If you can only compete by getting literally at least 5 Priest Legendarys (Raza, Kazakus, Lyra, SR Anduin, Prophet V) then the game is not in a good state considering it is a Free to Play game. So I agree that Bonemarecould use a nerf, but please nerf Shadowreaper Anduin and Bloodreaver Gul'dan alongside it...

    * Before anybody judges me - I started off as a F2P near the end of closed beta, started buying packs around TGT (one pre-purchase lot per expansion), and stopped paying with KFT, cause the expansion looked sh*t - and what do you know, it turned out it is. Not very excited about the next one either and probably Blizz won't see a dollar from me any time soon.

    Actually it would be very healthy for the game if top decks required loads of high-dust cards with commons and rares being just cheap replacements. People would have to be a bit more inventive - sure there would be F2P netdecking, but you would have different experience at different tiers of the ladder and overall you would face a wider variety of decks as well. Not to mention there would be a higher variety in the decklists between players. Finally your collection would feel that much more personal and worth something, while now my collection feels pretty meh just as all of Hearthstone.

    To put it simpler - Expensive decks mean you are having fun at every level of play and how much you pay just determines where you compete.  Inexpensive decks mean that everybody's playing the exact same sh*t over and over, you don't get to have fun and you still pay something to get the basic experience. Your rank is determined by your endurance - how much time you are willing to spend not having fun with the game.

    Concerning Bonemare - terrible card, along with Keleseth and Scalebane it's messing up the meta. The card isn't broken because it's broken - it's not about the effect or the strength, it's broken because it's 7-mana.

    The card is too good and too impactful when played, to just ignore it in an aggressive list, but at the same time it's a situational 7-mana card - many times you will lose the game by drawing this in the early turns. And it would be fine if the rest of the aggro curve ended below 5 mana. The thing is most Rogues and Warlocks - current kings of aggro - run 8 to 12 cards that are 5 mana and above - that basically turns Herthstone into a glorified slot machine. If you draw your heavy cards early on - you won't build a board and you will lose. If you'll draw them too late, you'll lose the board and you'll lose the game. You draw them at the right time and your opponent has to gg.

    That's not Wizard Poker. That's Wizard Solitaire. Your only agency as the player is guessing the order in which the cards are dealt. No player interaction, no means to manouver around a bad hand - just drawing cards and seeing if they fit the curve. This is worse than anything I've experienced in Hearthstone. But I predict that we'll reach a new low with the next expansion.
     I can somehow get behind the argumentation of the first half of your post - there are upsides to very expensive strong cards it even though free to plays would cry in pain and anger... But you are way too negative about the state of the game. There are strong non-meta decks that you can play. No need for Bonemare all day long if you dislike it. I got to Legend with a Mill-Warlock last season (and up to rank 3 with a Inner Fire Priest) -> both without bone mare or scalebane. People are just on average not very creative. There is still room to explore!!! Especially in wild!
    The one point where I completely disagree is the part about the no skill curve thing: A Curve-Intense meta is actually way more skill intense than one where most cards have a similar cost... Starting like turn 4 you have to think about how to use your resources in the following turns for a good power play turn 6 - in order to setup a clear or your own bone mare maybe... With curve-intense decks you gotta play way more around their possible best play, than vs a zoo deck full of 1-3 drops...
     I agree that there is skill in curve-play and planning ahead to keep tempo on curve. The problem is that skill will be a factor in - let's be generous - 80% of games. And I'm talking mirror style decks. The other 20% is completely out of your control - your opponent gets a god curve with Keleseth and you don't, your opponent goes first and top-decks a Bonemare on curve. You Mulligan heavy drops out of your hand and still end up with 4 cards out of which not a single one is cheaper than 5 mana. These games are out of your control. And there is the other 20% where You are the one drawing like a god, you may have the skill, but still that is not the reason why you are winning. This is the problem - such a heavy curve pretty much acts as a second Keleseth again double dipping the game in draw-rng.

    Let's say I'm overestimating these factors, though I don't think so. Let's say that a total of 20% of games is either way based purely on both players draws. That means that 2 out of 10 games you've played mean nothing - they are either too easy or frustrating and you feel either overpowered or underpowered despite facing an opponent with a very similar deck and probably at a similar skill level. That means that 20% of the time you spend in the game isn't even remotely fun, quite contrary, it's annoying, it's like a job you hate. Let's say you play 100 games a season - 20 games, 6 minutes each -roughly 2 hours wasted entirely, 2 hours of frustration and making the best of a hopeless situation. And I'm not counting regular gaming stuff, these aren't regular losses, these aren't regular lucky wins. These are the extremes.

    About the decks - this is the first time since Christmas Tree Paladin meta, that I feel that I can't play a deck a of my own in competitive ranks. And I'm used to playing bad decks to poor results, I used to run stuff like Gadgetzan Lock'n'Load Hunter. Now you can't do stuff like that.
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    posted a message on How Bonemare is responsible for devastating the meta
    Quote from Wellingt0n >>

    The reason I feel like Bonemare is ok is not that I would not agree - Yes it is too strong - but rather that it is a very good common card (like Cobalt Scalebane).

    Itwould be unhealthy for the game if there were no good cheap cards. If you can only compete by getting literally at least 5 Priest Legendarys (Raza, Kazakus, Lyra, SR Anduin, Prophet V) then the game is not in a good state considering it is a Free to Play game. So I agree that Bonemarecould use a nerf, but please nerf Shadowreaper Anduin and Bloodreaver Gul'dan alongside it...

    * Before anybody judges me - I started off as a F2P near the end of closed beta, started buying packs around TGT (one pre-purchase lot per expansion), and stopped paying with KFT, cause the expansion looked sh*t - and what do you know, it turned out it is. Not very excited about the next one either and probably Blizz won't see a dollar from me any time soon.

    Actually it would be very healthy for the game if top decks required loads of high-dust cards with commons and rares being just cheap replacements. People would have to be a bit more inventive - sure there would be F2P netdecking, but you would have different experience at different tiers of the ladder and overall you would face a wider variety of decks as well. Not to mention there would be a higher variety in the decklists between players. Finally your collection would feel that much more personal and worth something, while now my collection feels pretty meh just as all of Hearthstone.

    To put it simpler - Expensive decks mean you are having fun at every level of play and how much you pay just determines where you compete.  Inexpensive decks mean that everybody's playing the exact same sh*t over and over, you don't get to have fun and you still pay something to get the basic experience. Your rank is determined by your endurance - how much time you are willing to spend not having fun with the game.

    Concerning Bonemare - terrible card, along with Keleseth and Scalebane it's messing up the meta. The card isn't broken because it's broken - it's not about the effect or the strength, it's broken because it's 7-mana.

    The card is too good and too impactful when played, to just ignore it in an aggressive list, but at the same time it's a situational 7-mana card - many times you will lose the game by drawing this in the early turns. And it would be fine if the rest of the aggro curve ended below 5 mana. The thing is most Rogues and Warlocks - current kings of aggro - run 8 to 12 cards that are 5 mana and above - that basically turns Herthstone into a glorified slot machine. If you draw your heavy cards early on - you won't build a board and you will lose. If you'll draw them too late, you'll lose the board and you'll lose the game. You draw them at the right time and your opponent has to gg.

    That's not Wizard Poker. That's Wizard Solitaire. Your only agency as the player is guessing the order in which the cards are dealt. No player interaction, no means to manouver around a bad hand - just drawing cards and seeing if they fit the curve. This is worse than anything I've experienced in Hearthstone. But I predict that we'll reach a new low with the next expansion.
    Posted in: Card Discussion
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    posted a message on 69% winrate Druid Hunter

    season day 1: rank 18 to rank 15 in 16 games (11-5)
    loses: token shaman, mid hunter, control: paladin, mage and rogue all 5 with dk played
    season day 2: rank 15 to rank 12 in 20 games (13-7)
    loses:
    token shaman - some minor misplays on my part
    aggro druid - opponent had very good hand, my was midiocre, should have coined the doomsayer turn 1
    pirate warrior - easily stabilized, but in mid game I drew pirate1-drops for 3 turns in a row with opponent not playing weapons.
    pirate warrior - bad opening hand (nothing lower than 3) against a good hand and good draws, still with a taunt adapt could have stabilized
    jade druid - tunnel visioned during mulligan expecting aggro resulting in bad plays against an excellent opener (Wild Growth, Innervate, Jade Behemoth, Fandral, Wrath)
    aggro druid - close game decided by my doomsayer going down to a crazed alchemist
    mid hunter - minor misplay, should have played doomsayer turn 2, though didn't have a follow up, generaly worse curve, stuck with 2 houndmasters with no beasts, game deciding doomsayer going down to a spellbreaker
    ---
    currently rank 10, though pushed with paladin for quests

    Posted in: 69% winrate Druid Hunter
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    posted a message on 69% winrate Druid Hunter

    If they can kill the doomsayer on turns 2-5, you're just dead as a hunter. It's mostly to take control of these smaller disadvantages. Besides that, you sometimes will need to sacrifice something more than the doomsayer. For example I've played games where turn 5 I would go Doomsayer + Fledgling with a Highmane in hand. If they can produce 10 damage, then I was already dead. If they kill just the doomsayer, I've "healed" for 7 and got a fledgling on board. If they go face and pass, I'm getting a Highmane on an empty board.

    Traps - the higher I climb the less useful they become. Most players just play around them and it's hard to set them up. Consider that if your opponent has 2 tokens on board and sees a trap, he will just trigger it and play his stuff - you're not getting the board back, you're just killing 2 tokens. If he has more he will wait until he can use them to clear or buff outside 2 damage range. Doomsayer gives the initiative back to you.

    Deadly shot is something I consider a tech choice against slower decks - against bunch of tokens it's just no good. Still I think Spellbreaker might be better.

    Golakka is staple - there are loads of pirates on ladder and actually eating your own patches is good in matchups where the opponent doesn't run pirates.

    Posted in: 69% winrate Druid Hunter
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    posted a message on How are yall doing with Lich King?

    0. Shaman - tried token, tried control jade, tried token - nothing seems to work, maybe bad draw, maybe you really need the DK
    1. Druid - your usual Jade Druid, 1st try 
    2. Rogue - tempo mech build, no DK, just sensei's buffing each other since turn 4, gg
    3. Mage - freeze + secret build with the 2/4 secret healer, Jaina DK, Pyros, +1 hero damage 2-drops and one 6/6 Drake
    4. Warlock - singleton Handlock with the DK, pretty easy
    4.5 Paladin - trying with the DK combo-wombo but doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? But no exploits!

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    posted a message on Help for an arena rookie?

    Watch good streamers like abovementioned ADWCTA and Merps, they explain a lot. They've got their youtube channel with their 12-win runs and a weekly podcast "The lightforge" available also on Twitch and Youtube, dedicated solely to the Arena.

    In general currently avoid picking Shaman and Warrior, probably also Hunter (very inconsistent class). Focus on learning 1-2 classes. Mage and Paladin are pretty much always safe picks, Warlock and Priest have good cards this expansion, Druid has got extremely good cards this expansion. People say that Rogue is on a downhill slope, though I'm seeing success with the class (6,8,10 and 12 in KFT) and I'm by no means a pro.

    Card rating lists are cool, but they won't get you to a consistent 7 win average. You need to learn your own style of play and draft accordingly, the lists are helpful, but sometimes it's best to draft your way, especially in the later stages of the draft. For example I'm a tempo player, so I prefer drafting cards that spread the board or have initiative (for example minions that deal damage on battlecry). The list may say that some vanilla 5 drop is essentially a better card, but if it doesn't fit my style I'm going to take something else.

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    posted a message on Ultimate Infestation... needs to be changed

    The card isn't broken(1), the class is(2).

    (1) You can't just add up mana of other smaller cards and compare that. Card power curve shouldn't be linear, it should be exponential, at least above 5 mana. Why? Because only these kind of cards warrant you waiting so many turns with useless card in your hand. Ragnaros, Tirion, Dr. Boom - all "op". But notice that only these op cards get to be played in standard. Yes, the effect of The infestation is slightly over the top, they could have made it slightly weaker - the thing is...

    (2) This card wouldn't be even remotely as powerful in any other class as it is in Druid. Because Druid can cheat out mana. They can get this card out faster and then reload their hand. Essentially because of ramp, druids aren't punished because of the high mana cost, and because this card draws 5 cards while having a relevant board influence, they aren't punished for ramping. These two mechanics simply negate each other's bad sides while amplifying the good sides and since both mechanics are good to begin with, we see an insane power spike for the class. Add to that, that it is in fact one of the dominant classes of the previous meta and that the class got new powerful tools this expansion and there you have it - DruidStone.

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    posted a message on How many legendaries did you get from JUST the preorder 50 packs?

    2 out of 71 packs - Warlock DK and Shaman minion - if this is the new pack opening experience, count me out. I didn't even get a single Defile.


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