Hearthpwn

Still not sure why I bother playing this game.

Over the years I have become convinced that this game is not random in any way. From your matchup, to your card draws, to your pack openings, to the RNG within your games, all of them are weighted by blizzard towards achieving their goals of a 50 percent win rate and to inspire/reward spending.

In todays episode I decided to ladder a bit with Keleseth Rogue. I win two games then match up 3 straight games with exodia mage (ok that could be random). Each game it starts me with swashburgler (ok, we know it likes to give you a one cost in your opening hand and that is a fine enough opening) but the capper is hilarious. In all 3 games, it generates a frost nova........Now can a math guy run the odds on that? lol, how about the odds that the algorithim has decided that giving keleseth rogue a frost nova against exodia mage keeps the game interesting interesting.....far more likely.

Anyone who plays this game for a fair bit of time knows exactly what I am talking about. How many times you mulligan away your hand and get the exact same cards back? How many times after a win streak do you get the same losing matchup, even the same card order game after game? Anyone with 3 or more gold heroes actually think this game is random at all?

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All collecting card games are pay to win, HS included. You Think you would have had any chance in Magic The Gathering with only your friends hans over (free cards) . Well you wouldnt. To play on a competive level you had to buy alot of cards or trade smart. As you cant Trade in HS your other option is to buy. Ofc you can get really good cards for free in HA bit that reauires alot of time. So basicly it comes Down to having alot of money or alot of time to play HS on any competive level. Some have neither, and those of us with family and work only have money to spare.

HS is a P2W game, but that is not a bad thing, most games are.

True P2W games wouldn't give the option of spending a lot of time to collect gold/dust/cards to ever reach a competitive level, it would only be possible by spending real money. That is true P2W, access ONLY through money. Allowing or encouraging players to spend money to get competitive cards/decks faster through spending money is not P2W.

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All collecting card games are pay to win, HS included. You Think you would have had any chance in Magic The Gathering with only your friends hans over (free cards) . Well you wouldnt. To play on a competive level you had to buy alot of cards or trade smart. As you cant Trade in HS your other option is to buy. Ofc you can get really good cards for free in HA bit that reauires alot of time. So basicly it comes Down to having alot of money or alot of time to play HS on any competive level. Some have neither, and those of us with family and work only have money to spare.

HS is a P2W game, but that is not a bad thing, most games are.

Secret mage pretty much poops on dragon priest, too much tempo, too much burn. 

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Just quoting a guy i found on the bnet forum.

 

I personally use this definition: "If a game has a PvP element of any sort, and if you can use real money to buy any kind of advantage, then the game is P2W".

DOTA2 for example is not P2W, as nothing you buy has any actual impact on the gameplay. 

HS is P2W, because people who pay money can get good cards more easily and thus have an advantage. For example, I have the priest DK but no Raza, I have the evo Shaman but no Doppelgangster, I have no other DKs nor a LK. All those are disadvantages, that result in worse decks. If I would pay money, I could acquire all these cards one way or another instantly right now, improve my decks and thus my chances of winning.

 

So for me i think its p2w. Just met a guy in rank 19 with 7 legendaries completly destroyed my jade golem that took me 2 weeks to make with dust and opening packs.

 You misunderstood what he said.

You cannot pay to gain any kind of advantage in Hearthstone that you cannot also get by grinding. If you want all the cards, play more.

It has been proven time and time again that HS is not P2W. A really strong player can take a brand new account and only play without paying anything and take it to Legend in 2 months.

if you play eater of secrets the algorithim simply wont match you against secrets, you will more likely get a mirror match and both eaters in your opening hand. 

the meta is not a meta, the algorithim matches you based on whether it wants you to win or lose. if you winning 50 percent you will see the same decks over and over. 

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Okey, sounds lucky, IF u know that 95% is the same decks just tech against them, Easy wins

Everyone has a different experience. The game matches you up with counter decks to keep you buying new packs. 

The algorithim may think it will get you to buy packs to get certain cards you don't have.

Activision is so happy with their result that they patented the process

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/how-activision-uses-matchmaking-tricks-to-sell-in-game-items-w509288

The funny thing is try playing 10 games with a deck, after a while you will see the same counters over and over. Then you will move to counter what you are seeing, and the game will give you completely different counters. It is becoming nearly unplayable, because between the matchmaking, the card draw and the 'weighted' rng mechanics, it feels like the game is playing itself. 

quests broken on release of new content. Maybe some people will buy more? Great job Blizz.

I went free to play when blizzard got rid of the adventures to make hearthstone more expensive. Before the change you could spend 40 a year on hearthstone and basically make any deck you wanted. Now you can spend 150 bucks a year and still come up short. No thanks. 

hidden gem of this expansion, in any type of zoo or board flood deck. 

bad cuz priest will be everywhere running this into your biggest minion on the board, killing it or stealing it altogether. 

I would not play this card when ahead with Blizzards 'weighted' RNG.

just drop it in the naga giant deck in wild.