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Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Yes

 So you have experience casting doubt on accusations made against your clients?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T658vTvoRs

This video addresses many of the weighted RNG aspects that are featured in hearthstone that many people deny exist. I think the maker of this video does a great job of laying it out. 

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Quote from DrDynamite1 >>

Honestly I don't know how do you expect anyone to read your wall of text titled as "zeddy is bad".

I don't care about what he did before, because this doesn't change the fact that he's spitting facts. Before anyone replies to this, just start with the average amount of days you need to level up from level 49 to 50 only with weekly and daily quests and whether you think this is okay or not

 If you think that's a 'wall of text' then it just says more about you to be honest. Maybe next time the OP can write it in size 20 font and include mots of nice, big pictures for the kids. 

The fact you think he is 'spitting facts' (come on, grow up) suggests you aren't bothered about actual facts, you just want to hear more of what feels good to you. 

This whole uproar is laughable. It really is. I get the small bundle each expansion (and haven't even always got that), I've bought the large bundle one time. I have around 5/6k gold each expansion and I'm smart with dusting, nerfs and Hall of fame. 

I have 28k dust currently and a few k in reserve. I craft the cards I need for any decks I want to play on a whim and can't think the last time I couldn't play something I wanted to. 

I keep seeing tears about how much the entire expansion costs. If you're obsessing over having every single card in every expansion then you're causing your own issue. I have probably got anywhere from about 50-90% of each expansion since witch wood. Some expansions have more cards I want to use, others have less. I couldn't get less about a good quarter of the legendaries etc. You're talking about the absolute finished article in collecting everything and expecting it to be a low outlay.

Essentially, your ignorance and stupidity are causing you your own problems. This game is a TON better than it was when I started playing. Better questing, levels to track and work towards, multiple game modes, brawl doesn't have the days between being open that it used to, more expansions every year, solo content, more portraits, better monthly rewards (much better), a new class. Like, it's not even close. Sure, the cost may go up a bit to support it all, that's how things work but I'm fine with it. 

These modes, new classes, more frequent balances, more expansions, more portraits and card backs, all of it, it costs more. Up until around the end of last year, this game really struggled to hold my attention between expansions. I would play for around half the length, with a burst initially and then in bits across the remaining time but now of I don't fancy playing ladder, I can jump into duels or even BG which isn't really my cup of tea but I'll have a blast here and there. Announcing the mid set expansions was more brilliant news to me. Will it increase the cost? Yes. Do I care? Absolutely not, I fully expect it to but I would rather that than no new content for months at a time.

If I ever feel this game is too expensive to play or I stop enjoying it, I will simply leave and find better things to do with my time and stop putting money into it. It really is that simple. I've done it with many other games in the past and I've no doubt I'll do it plenty more in the coming years. 

 angry hearthstone defender guy, you crack me up. 

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still love to come on these forums to laugh at all these fools who defend blizzard and chuck money at an awfully greedy company.

 Really, though? You come back for that? I've always wondered why people who quit HS keep posting on these forums.

Sounds a bit like stalking an ex-girlfriend on Facebook and hoping to see pictures of her being sad without you to make you feel better.

But... maybe she is fine without you... and it's you that needs to move on?

 aww, you don't like the mean words on your forum to promote the game....maybe instead of trying to shoot the messenger, you should consider fixing the game. 

#stopblizzardgreed

remember that the levels you reached now have been easy. You are still at a little over 3k a level, wait until a level is 8k. 

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Quote from M0res >>

the other thing that ppl don’t get is that you play among equals, if everyone gets 150 legendaries for free, you will still be playing against the same decks as everyone will get the same rewards. 

the problem is not the less gold, the problem is that blizzard have made people believe that getting gold to buy a pack will make them stronger players without realising that the same wI’ll apply to everyone else. 

 Uhm I think people just want to be able to play more than one deck friend. (hopefully) nobody thinks that making a deck with as many legendary cards as possible will give them sky high winrates. What they do is find a cheap aggro deck to craft, so that they can klimb on latter and get better rewards. This is also a call for more diverse match-ups. 

 this guy gets it. 

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Quote from DropDeadCynical >>

Yeah, you made your point and I respect your views. I just disagree with them. We aren't talking Prada bags, we're talking Hearthstone and Blizzard. I'm not really a 'bend over and take it' kind of guy when I feel like any company is deliberately trying to screw over their customers.

So how does this translate to other products?  Like, you could divide every product available into roughly two groups

1.  Products that are worth the money (i.e. you will buy them at their current price, either regularly or at least under some circumstances)

2.  Products that are not worth the money (i.e. you would never buy them at their current price but you might at a cheaper price)

I have no idea what products you would put into each group (it doesn't really matter and it's a personal value judgement).  For me, examples of products in group #2 would be Macbooks, Fanta, Sugar Puffs, Audis, golf club membership, Beats headphones, Tony Romas, the list is near infinite.

So in order to avoid "bending over" do I need to go to all of these companies, spam their Twitter feed, spam their Facebook page, post on reddit etc complaining loudly about how I consider their product is too expensive?  Or should I just shrug my shoulders, spend my money on other things instead (things that are in group 1) and just move on with my life?

And if the answer is the latter (and I'm sure for all but the 0.0001% of really crazy people it is the latter) why should it be different for Hearthstone?

 Because we have a time investment in hearthstone and don't want to throw it away. To be sure, that will be the eventual result, driving away the customers you did not want anyway, But in addition to driving us away, you also create a vocal group of people who have been burned by Blizzard who will continue to tell the truth about the company. 

 I don't have an issue with people complaining but ffs don't be so naive and childish about it. That's what is annoying. 

Truth? What hidden secret are you threatening to expose for crying out loud? If you feel it's too expensive, fine, no problem there. But it's not some hidden charge, it's advertised. 

You're the sort of person that makes threats and uses words you don't understand. I've managed within regulated complaints for 14 years, I see your sort allllll the time. Leave out all the huffing and puffing and just keep to the point you're unhappy with. 

If I had a penny for every person that told me they were going to 'spread the word on social media' about my evil, horrible, incompetent, non customer friendly, greedy company or that they had 'spoken to a solicitor' or any number of other, stupid, asinine comments the moron wants to make. It's the adult version of a temper tantrum. 

I've seen plenty enough to know that the average consumer is an idiot. They don't really understand what they are buying half the time, so companies have to well and truly spoon feed them. The customer is not always right, the customer is usually stupid and thinks that shouting loudly will mean anything. 

At a time when everyone is so enraged about pretty much everything, complaints just aren't impressive for the most part. 

Think about what you've said here. You have invested your time, at your own discretion, into a game and you've placed such value on that time that you don't feel you can leave it. You also then feel that you need to be catered for by somebody else, all because you've imposed your own sense of entrapment and inability to leave the game.

The poster above absolutely hit the nail on the head. If you don't value the product, don't bloody buy it. I do it every single damn day. There's plenty of over priced stuff that is garbage in my eyes and like they said, I don't spam forums or websites every day with posts about what a disgrace the pricing is. 

If you enjoy the game but feel priced out, fine, just say that. Just say 'I can no longer afford this game and it's a shame because I enjoy playing it'. 

 your anger simply shows ridiculous your views are, you know you have lost the argument so all you can do is sputter and rage. 

#stopblizzardgreed

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I understand why people may disagree with complainers, but I don't understand why some go to such lengths to defend the actions of a corporation to the point of calling the (top 20% high use) consumer base ungrateful for daring to criticize an unpopular decision. 

 Look up what a community manager's job is and you will understand. 

Almost level 30 :)

like 4500  exp left and gaining miserable 800 each day.

What can I say....wasting my time with this game.

If this continues I will become a COLLECTIONIST. That is...will never ever buy anything, or play the game. Just do dailies, save gold to buy packs, but never play the game.

guys...you want to bliz to understand?

STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS. LETS ALL UNITE! MONEY IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE BLIZ UNDERSTANDS!

STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.STOP PLAYING AND BUYING PACKS.

aFTER 1 month u will see how bliz changes the failed reward ssytem

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Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Nah, I work pro bono where dishonest videos are concerned.

 A a pro bono defender of corporations, you are quite the individual. 

Another question for you,  If a corporation owns a patent on a technology that has been demonstrated to increase revenue but does not use it, do the shareholders have a legitimate grievance? 

 I love this response for so many reasons lmao

This man has a dictionary and thesaurus next to him as he writes hearthpwn posts lmao. 

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Popeye, I don't know if you read my second post to you before your last one, but I freely admit I don't care to tailor my message for 10 year olds.

Also, just as on these forums, anyone who hates talking to me IRL is free to not.

 amazing how a narcissist can make everything about themselves 

How tf do people freak out over graphs being used? They’re called visual aids for a reason. Do graphs normally make people around you feel uneducated? That doesn’t seem to make any sense

 Some people will actually try to reject even good arguments. The graph is definitely an extreme, but some folks only listen to their gut :)

You sound like such a smug piece of trash lmao. Ever watch the South Park where they enjoy smelling their own farts? 

Just talking? So I take it this is how you talk in real life? My God people must hate talking to you, standing around for 10 minutes while you try and drive home your point while also trying to make it sound formal and professional and articulate. I dont find any of your words “overly fancy” btw as I’ve been able to understand them clearly as my reading level is above that of a 6th grader. Maybe I should be more clear and just say that about 90% of the words you use/d are just completely unnecessary for the delivery of your message. In fact, i’m trying to do you a favor, because your message would be a whole lot more clear to the lesser literate masses by just getting to the GD point. 10 year olds play this game for F sake, what about them?

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Whoa Popeye, you just went way off the deep end.  I'm out.

And yes, everyone who agrees with me is a Blizzard spy.  They have a multi-million dollar network of forum posters.  Which, again, doesn't answer my question about which part was wrong.

 Thank god, hopefully you’ll stop posting pointless walls of text to make yourself feel surmountable to strangers online 

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Quote from Popeye123 >>

90 seconds of utter repetition and “impressive” language just to set up a point anybody could’ve made in 5-6 sentences. I’m sure morons are impressed with your long compound sentences but I value my time a little more.

 Where did I repeat myself?

Also, you guys are the ones who use words like "impressive" as an insult.  I'm just writing.  I just assume the readers have a high school education, in which case they shouldn't have any trouble with the vocabulary.

 As a science guy I can tell that there are also people who freak out when graphs are used... Some people just can't take formal language. I guess it makes them feel uneducated. 

You did well friend. Haters gonna hate :)

 another blizzard spy comes to the rescue 

Reading a black laws dictionary doesn’t make you an all knowing genius. I should know. You being a lawyer with a JD doesn’t impress me, in fact, it sheds light on the kinda person you are to be a corporate sellout to the Vatican and the tax collectors that call themselves police and the judicial system. Total joke