Hearthpwn

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The new system is way better than the old system, every change (that I can think of)  has been neutral or positive and they just give you more stuff for free now. 

Remember when there was no duplicate protection and most legendaries were terrible and the first legendary you opened was Nat Pagle and then you opened a second Nat Pagle as like your 4th or 5th legendary?

And there was no core set or reward track giving you free legendaries so you had to save up 40 dust over and over until you had 1600 to craft boring cards like Bloodmage Thalnos 'cause he was in every deck despite being really low impact? And then you opened Bloodmage Thalnos after you crafted him and he was all "We Hunger for Vengeance!" and you played a different video game for a bit. 

That was way worse. 

 I agree with the 2nd and 3rd parts, duplicate protection and core set are good.

The gold earning is reduced though.
Also the difficulty of making a good deck (from pack opening) remains the same, cuz back then legendary cards sucked and you wouldn't want to run too many of them in a deck, unlike now where almost every legendary card WILL win you more games.

 opening normal packs is the worst deal you can make in hearthstone shop.

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My advice is don't start unless you plan on paying $$ to build your collection. The game is currently at an all time bad condition for f2p.

 that is so far from the truth. grinding nowadays gives you more gold than before and mini-sets give you more dust than ever. there are also achievements which help on leveling up or even getting golden undustable versions of cards if you play them a certain amount of times.

between 2017 and 2019 when i played this game the most it was waaaaaaayyyyyy worse.

 Maybe if you are a bad player, I used to win 30 games everyday and get my 100g +40-50g from quests.
Now with average of 25 exp per game you need to play 60 games at max reward track to get 100g daily.

Edit: Sorry I am bad at math, you actually need 120 games for 2 reward track levels 3000exp/25= 120

 your math is bonkers and your estimations are false. 

120 games for 2 reward track levels? that's so false. I get between 40-50 exp per game (loss OR win), which means 2400 exp the least. add 1000 exp from daily quest and you get 3400, which means 1.5 levels before 100 and 2.3 levels after 100.

this is not counted to all achievements that give you either cards or exp.

there are also returning player rewards, which give you plenty of cards.

By the way: did you ever calculate the amount of dust you usually get from mini sets, compared to the amount of dust you usually get from normal packs? did you ever calculate the amount of dust you get from GOLDEN packs compared to NORMAL packs? did you ever calculate the amount of dust you get from GOLDEN mini-sets? ==> THESE ARE INSANE VALUE PACKS compared to what was 5 years ago.

You sir don't know what you are talking about. and saying you are bad at math then trying to prove something mathematically made you look dumb to be honest.

I might be a bad player, but the rewards are pretty much the same wether you win or lose. so that argument is invalid.

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My advice is don't start unless you plan on paying $$ to build your collection. The game is currently at an all time bad condition for f2p.

 that is so far from the truth. grinding nowadays gives you more gold than before and mini-sets give you more dust than ever. there are also achievements which help on leveling up or even getting golden undustable versions of cards if you play them a certain amount of times.

between 2017 and 2019 when i played this game the most it was waaaaaaayyyyyy worse.