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Ok, this is my last comment in this thread and i wash my hands from this incel toxicity.

I get it, we all have lives and responsibilities, i really get it. I am engineer myself and i use games and forums to vent of my stress from my really demanding work. So i completely understand someone who would either completely skip this nuanced and difficult issue or simply wait for the trial before taking a stance. They are both completely understandable behaviors’.

But bitching about "DoPaMinE DoSes" and trying to make the issue irrelevant "ShIT hApPeNs" ? You are either entitled little pricks who put their small rush before people's real pain and problems or misogynistic incels who think harassment is no big deal and use logical fallacies to support their stupid reasoning. Take your pick. There are comments attacking the victims for speaking out for f*ck sake...

Quote from Bloodmoth >>

So guys, I am interested in trying LoR (Runeterra) card game, but I need some information because I'm not familiar with the company behind it:

a) What are the political stances of the creators? Which sides are they supporting if any in major conflicts across the globe? (Palestine/Israel, China/Hong Kong etc, especially curious about their stance on the Aegean Sea disputes cause I'm greek). Extra information about some of the political parties that the company top heads have voted for/support are also welcome.

b) Is the company environmentally friendly and against animal cruelty? I hope all materials used within the company are biodegradable and not animal tested, and that the game servers are powered by renewable sources.

c) I hope every race/colour/sex/gender/religion and belief is equally represented and paid, and that the company top heads are well distributed. Seeing how the shareholders that are members of the board in a company are usually too few to have representation of every group I can think of, they should be as diverse as possible, i.e. an atheist communist asian bisexual male that identifies as a female with visual impairment, a conservative Christian transgender vegan black woman etc.

d) Is every person within the company screened for criminal activity in their personal life? I wouldn't want to play the game just to find out 2 years in that a person of the staff is a wife beater or that the cleaning lady does drugs.

e) Despite it being a corporation, I wouldn't want the end goal of the product, the game, to be money and profit but the promotion of gaming as an art form and as a means to soothe the soul in these troubling, difficult times. I would want it to be 100% free with no microtransactions, no paid cosmetics and free expansions. Also guaranteed support for at least 50 years and live servers, in case I want to show my grandchildren what I used to play when I was their age. Now if the creators want to give back to the community and send me some pocketmoney through PayPal or credit card for playing the game it would be considered a plus.

Thanks in advance for providing me with the crucial information every sane gamer would need before enjoying their hobby. I know you guys are really up to date with all that so it won't be that troublesome.

EDIT: Stop sending me private messages about how the game works, the art, the world building, the sound and other irrelevant stuff. We are here for the activism, not to actually play the game.

 Oh yes...because blizzard's games have been so amazing the recent years...I mean people are robots and are 100% efficient even if they are under stress and harassed. Companies' working enviroment is completely irrelevant to their final product!Totally, for sure, certainly...yeap.

"Horrible attrocities happen in the world therefore crimes that don't affect me should go unpunished and unnoticed!"

Big brain statements in this thread by big brain users!

So if anybody harms you or your loved ones, police response should be "bruh, hunger, pandemics and genocides happen, deal with it"

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Actually I agree, the fact that a state government is lending its name to the lawsuit does suggest some legitimacy to the allegations.  But given all the other reasons one might want to attach his or her name to a sex discrim lawsuit, it's not dispositive.  One has only to look to our current Vice President and the farce of a trial she initiated against Back Page knowing full well the charges would not hold up in court to realize how far some folks will go to use the court system as their own plaything.

I didn't read the other post you quoted carefully, but there's nothing whatsoever in my post you can point to suggesting either that I've made up my mind or that I'm supporting Blizzard in this matter.  Sorry to disappoint.  The reason I felt the victim comment was necessary is I've watched what happens when false accusations are made and the ruinous consequences they bring to the accused.  I have no reason to conclude that these allegations are true or false at the moment, and because I don't know any o the parties personally, I don't even have a subjective guess one way or the other informed by some personal knowledge of honesty or integrity (or lack thereof).  I have no idea why you'd suggest otherwise.

 Sorry, i was mostly referring to the dude above, i should have made my reply structure better. My bad, I agree with you on false accussation completely when is about  people. I agree that many times the life of the accussed is ruined regardless of the outcome of the trial.But when it comes to organisation vs people, the issue becomes more complicated and nuanced and as i said on my previous comments, publicity on these cases helps.

Quote from theMeteor >>

Here we see the pussylanius maximus, believing that typing in a forum will change anything while the real work is done in the courts...and now that I typed this BOTH of us have typed something. So insightful.

 

 When did i claim that posting something in this forum will change anything other than pissing fanboys and bootlickers off? You made a nice strawman there mate! 

Anyway, after seeing the replies, my goal was obviously achieved :P

Quote from grizz6 >>

"BOTH sides will do their best to prove their point and so the chances to get to the truth are much much higher."

You're an intelligent one. I never knew that using the court of public opinion in an uneducated assault without facts had this effect.

Because of dopes like you a lot of us lost a lot of needed escape in getting excited for new cards. But of course I'm "Bootlickus Bootlickus" as you like to call me and the others who view Hearthstone as an escape from social justice crap.

 Oh sorry my deal incel, i am sure you need an escape from your otherwise wonderful life because of those pesky pesky sjws. Oh poor thing my heart goes to you.

Quote from Shadowrisen >>

Quote from jainaishot >>

 Both sides will do that . . . unless either side has a lawyer with a brain in his head, at which point all public discussion of what actually happened will immediately cease because that's how you best help your case in court.

What follows is a pure void of speculation where a lot of folks with no clue as to the truth value of any of the accusations try to use skepticism as a cudgel against those who don't immediately believe the "victims" (quotes to draw attention to the fact that we have no clue which side is being victimized at this point).

In any case, I have no problem with the "don't shit where you eat" mentality of streamers.  I just want them to be consistent about it.  If you didn't "shit" as a result of Hong Kong, the layoffs, the myriad of previous sexual discrimination claims, etc., then why are you "shitting" now?  Strained metaphor, I know.

 Yeah, it seems like you are the ones that to have made your minds that the victims are lying before even the trial starts.  I am sure California sued an Multi Billion company for shit and shits and giggles ... Come on guys...There is something  going on for sure, what it is, and how bad it is, remains to be determined.

Morerover, publicity gives courage to more victims/witnesses to come forth and prevents blizzard from simply buying the silence of the victims.If there is nothing there, the accusers will make fool of themselves. I know that blizz's boots are tasty but don't worry. They have billions, they will be ok.

"I just want to see the cards" 

"I hate online warriors"

"I am fed with SJW"

Here my friends, we see the Bootlickus Bootlickus  in their natural habitat. What people with this mentality fail to realise, is that if everybody was like them, we would still be working serfs on some feudal lords farm with 0 scientific progress (" I just want to work the farm man", "I just want to eat bread man", "i just want to see the lord's festivities man" etc). Thank god among sheeps in human clothing, there are true men and women who have to balls to fight for what they believe to be right.

Whether the accusations are true, is to be determined. But due to the publicity the issue has gotten, BOTH sides will do their best to prove their point and so the chances to get to the truth are much much higher.