Quote from StonedSaiyan >>

if you play mage in any capacity right now you're a degenerate and your parents don't love you

 Tell 'em Vegeta!

RNG is not fun.

Personally, I feel like Refreshing Spring Water is a dumb and too strong card. You could say that it's only as powerful as it is in Spell Mage, and it's more unreliable in Mage decks that run Minions, but the problem I see here is that Arcane Intellect is a card that exists. So if you want to play a Mage deck with Minions you can just not run Refreshing Spring Water and run Arcane Intellect instead. And if you play a Spell Mage, you get a direct upgrade, and not a small one at that.

Also, Mozaki, Master Duelist and Flamewaker OTK Mage run Minions as well as Spells, that's true. But they run so few minions that it almost never happens you draw two Minions from your Refreshing Spring Water, so it's almost always better than Arcane Intellect.

But let's be fair, Refreshing Spring Water may be a strong card, but it's not the card that makes or breaks the OTK decks. Sorcerer's Apprentice and Incanter's Flow are the problematic cards and should be nerfed to not be able to make Spells cost less than (1).

OP here, after thinking about it a bit and reading the comments, I guess I shouldn't have a problem with the Spell Mage decks. I guess I'm just kind of confused about the fact Dirty Rat and/or Hecklebot haven't made a return to the wild meta. They would completely shit on both Mozaki, Master Duelist and Flamewaker OTK Spell Mage.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from TwistedCardmaster >>

I believe that it's not about Mozaki Mage or any other deck in particular, but rather about HS current philosophy. Balance and power level aside, playing against most meta decks just feels frustrating and annoying. Tons of draw, mana cheating, burn from hand, unblockable effects, constant aggression etc. And worst is, that board becomes more and more redundant, since for many decks it doesn't even matter anymore. Sometimes I wonder if both players are still playing together or just doing their own thing separately...

This really encapsulates how I feel actually.

My favorite deck being a very board strong Elemental Shaman, it kinda sucks when I just get blasted away by some deck with zero counterplay

Like, a Big Priest I can at least try to Hex his stuff xD

Quote from Scorpyon >>

Rogues and Druids (and to a lesser extent Warlocks) have been doing the deck cycling thing for a long time in previous expansions - Gadgetzan Auctioneer has been a central figure in that regard for a long time.

That said, the OP Post probably belongs in the Salt thread, but I'll let it be for the moment and see how this progresses.

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Probably not the first to whine about this, but it hardly seems fair that Mage can cycle through it's entire deck by turn 5 and kill me with Mozaki, Sorcerer's Apprentice and Incanter's Flow.

Remember when cards costed Mana?