To be frank, I think this account might just be trolling based on their post history. Between this post and another about old Ysera they’ve been proven to be wrong a few times and conveniently ignored talking points that dismantles their argument.
But I’ll try here again just in case. If Heistbaron Toggwaggle’s “Wondrous Wand” was changed to: draw 3 cards that cost (1) mana, how is that not a nerf?
I believe it's been announced on Twitter that there will in fact (somewhat incredibly) be a dust refund for Ysera? Blizzard's inconsistency when it comes to handing out dust for some changes and not others with no semblance of continuity is remarkable, but hey... Blizzard. :-)
I don't see any inconsistency. They nerfed the cards generated by Ysera; the closest prior nerf that was similar that didn't give a refund is Thermaplugg with the leper gnome nerf, which was a long time ago now, and paradigms have changed. If the Wondrous wand reduced the cards to 1 mana, not 0, then I'd expect a Togwaggle refund, too.
To clarify - this is not for Ysera rotating. The refund is because the dream cards are getting changed, and most of those changes are nerfs.
Yes, I am aware of the reason for the refund. The inconsistency is in the fact that some cards getting pseudo-nerfed get refunded, whereas others don't. And then there's art changes that have long been debated as nerfs to cards visually which also don't get refunded. So like I say, inconsistency = Blizzard. :-)
I wonder if Deathwing's nerf gets a refund too, actually. Original Deathwing was a core component of Maca'thun Warlock. By nerfing Deathwing, it also has a detrimental effect on Meca'thun meaning the card is not as strong. Since this is exactly the same effect as nerfing the Dream cards for Ysera (when ysera wasn't directly nerfed herself), we should expect a full refund for Meca'thun, otherwise inconsistency once again. I think we know whether that's going to happen or not. :-)
The old dragons are rotating into wild unchanged besides old Ysera whose dream cards are changing to match the new one for some reason. Hence why the refund is valid.
All the new dragon aspects have different names from their classic counterparts and are completely different cards.
Ysera - Ysera the dreamer, Deathwing - Deathwing the Destroyer, etc.
I think this is why you were so confused on the last forum post.
Which kind of refund we are getting for Ysera? We are getting full dust back without disenchant like hall of fame?
Is it safe for crafting Golden Ysera if we don't have the non-golden Ysera?
I’d imagine it’s dust refund similar to what we just got with Alura. Refund for disenchant. But I’m not sure, normally we find out closer to the date before.
I hope one day Oldsera gets her classic dream cards back. Dream has saved my butt at 0.
Looking forward to classic, maybe she’ll find a home there with her OG dream cards.
As for Ysera the Dreamer I think her changes are fine. Having guaranteed shadowstep in any class might limit some upcoming design space. I’m sure if she’s too weak they’ll adjust accordingly.
I’m also curious if the “except Ysera” is too clunky for them to want to deal with. Does that mean no sapping of your opponents’ old Ysera, Ysera the Dreamer, or Ysera Unleashed?
I’m mostly joking but funny to think about.
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I blocked that fool, first person in my entire account to be ignored. They’re playing dumb and 100% trolling. Not a doubt in my mind.
“What Togwaggle example?” We literally gave him a tog example 3 times on 2 different posts. It’s really childish the way they are cherry picking,
That’s not the point of this post though.
To be frank, I think this account might just be trolling based on their post history. Between this post and another about old Ysera they’ve been proven to be wrong a few times and conveniently ignored talking points that dismantles their argument.
But I’ll try here again just in case. If Heistbaron Toggwaggle’s “Wondrous Wand” was changed to: draw 3 cards that cost (1) mana, how is that not a nerf?
The old dragons are rotating into wild unchanged besides old Ysera whose dream cards are changing to match the new one for some reason. Hence why the refund is valid.
All the new dragon aspects have different names from their classic counterparts and are completely different cards.
Ysera - Ysera the dreamer, Deathwing - Deathwing the Destroyer, etc.
I think this is why you were so confused on the last forum post.
I’d imagine it’s dust refund similar to what we just got with Alura. Refund for disenchant. But I’m not sure, normally we find out closer to the date before.
see above
False, we do get a refund for old Ysera:
https://mobile.twitter.com/GW_Alec/status/1365329751993327623
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I hope one day Oldsera gets her classic dream cards back. Dream has saved my butt at 0.
Looking forward to classic, maybe she’ll find a home there with her OG dream cards.
As for Ysera the Dreamer I think her changes are fine. Having guaranteed shadowstep in any class might limit some upcoming design space. I’m sure if she’s too weak they’ll adjust accordingly.
I’m also curious if the “except Ysera” is too clunky for them to want to deal with. Does that mean no sapping of your opponents’ old Ysera, Ysera the Dreamer, or Ysera Unleashed?
I’m mostly joking but funny to think about.