f2p dont pay why should they get to have fun... and dude there's more than just USA and it's array of political/economical/financial/social/etc systems on this dam earth...
its pretty clear ur way of thinking so it's really no point for me to continue this.
There are several affordable decks that can hit legend, if you're willing to put the time into it. The biggest advantage paying players have is that they can play a wider range of decks, since they have the dust and cards to do so.
5) As for your declaration that HS is dying, yawn. I've heard this claim for years now, usually from someone who says exactly what you do: "I've been around a long time, I've seen this before, yada, yada, milking whales, yada, yada." Remember when all we heard was how "Gwent is going to destroy HS"? How'd that turn out?
dude, sorry to say it but this is BS talk...how do u expect some1 who plays HS for fun (like the vast majority of us) play the same 2-3 decks over and over again for 3-4 months. i did go for legend 1 month, i did spam 1 deck and made me intoxicated with HS for the rest of the expansion (2 months of logging in just for dailies). i feel like most of the ones who're playing out there can agree with this statement.
The truth is that we need eachother, f2p needs p2p to pay for their game and p2p needs f2p to have with whom to actually play the game. And, as Daulphas said it before : "F2P and P2P NEED to be able to play the game on EQUAL footing and have an EQUAL chance of winning their matches." I would also add that both f2p and p2p players should have access to the same cards during one expansion.
The most fun i had in HS was during open beta when every1 was making their own decks almost and there was such a diversity that u didnt know in advance how ur matchup will unroll or concepts like playing around certain cards and stuff like that. This min-maxing mentality is ruining every game out there not only HS, but for HS's case its especially prevalent cuz of the card collection restrictions we all have.
The guys at Hearthstone Mathematics (who i think we all agree that they know their statistics) are the ones saying the game is dying and they are also the ones who come up with some very interesting solutions like having a 3rd form of card (besides normal and golden) for the p2p customers. And i think we dont need them to tell us how unfriendly this game is for a newcomer (even with the poor effort from bli$$ that they made after so many years by giving the free deck. It's to little and definitely to late)...
The beef i have with bli$$ (as a f2p) is that they're misleading on purpose (with all their ID's not only HS) and they put in the minimum amount of effort (at least that's how it seems to me) but demand more and more $$...and for all those who come in here and shout there's nothing wrong with a company making profit i say yes, there is nothing wrong when the profit is within decency, otherwise in the real world they are put in place, checked in and whatnot by specific authorities who's role is exactly that, to stop companies from being/becoming too greedy...
paying is HS is a choice yes, but when being able to have fun in a game (which for me means playing various decks during the 4 month expac lifespan) implies more or less me having to pay between 150 $ - XXX $ per year for it then i say......heck, no game out there is this level of expensive cmon....
no point in trying... ppl who think like they do will never understand...they dont even understand why the game they spend so much $$ on is dying...why should they care about anything or any1 else as long as they PAY!!!
Apologies if I go really against the grain here, but I’m pretty tired of F2P players thinking they are entitled to a premium experience simply out of loyalty sake. THIS GAME GIVES SO MANY HANDOUTS...
Free legendary every expansion. Free. It costs you nothing. Your account can be 2 days old or 2 years old. F-R-E-E. 3 Legendaries a year and you don’t even have to log in every day for them. Disappear for 3 months? Show up like the month the expansion drops and it’s yours.
Ever-changing pack economics. No duplicate legendaries, no duplicate epics, no duplicate rares or commons until you collect them all of each category from an expansion. Guaranteed legendary in your first 10 packs each expansion. AND ITS RETROACTIVE. This benefited everyone and to such a degree the free players.
The power of the Classic set. Hunter has used Kill Command, Animal Companion, and some sort of secret synergy for pretty much all of HS history. It’s been taken to legend by tons of players and by many even with zero dust spent. Demon Hunter seems like it’s “classic” cards are going to follow suit and remain powerful for the weapon/character attack power identity. You can almost always bet some type of board flood Warlock or Druid will be good and cheap. And guess what... most meta decks still utilize at least 5 copies of classic cards. One time fee forever, and a portion of your deck building process is done.
2nd class citizens... please take that out of your post. I don’t even think you know what that means in the context of a free download, mobile, all ages welcome video game published for entertainment.
BS post, not worth bothering to show u how many ideas u got wrong in there, will try and help out by asking u to take a few steps outside in the fresh, open air before u go to sleep, wont do u good going to bed so constipated :/
And that's all that needs to be said about it, gold is the most important, everything else is irrelevant.
The main reward apart from gold that the new system will be offering is card packs from the latest expansion. Which happens to be the single most valuable thing one can buy with gold anyway. In what world is that irrelevant?
i feel like the bli$$ white knights are out and hard at it this time around. bottom line is we'll just have to wait and see, but then again when did bli$$ did smth for us and not for their $$ benefit...lets not beat it around the bushes, there's a reason why so many ppl left this company, including the CO-founder himself lol.
and, as an entitled brat said somewhere in this topic, why should the enjoyment of f2p "2nd class citizens" be equal to the paying customer experience lol
So I am curious what the rest of you think of this. Should a f2p be able to compete by grinding quests and managing resources? Or should we be relegated to being 2nd class citizens and lose out on the pleasure of enjoying release day?
I think you should be relegated to 2nd class citizens and lose out on some of the pleasure of enjoying release day.
F2P players provide the community opponents to fight and new meta. It would be a lonely place without them. But paying customers provide the servers, patches, and new content as well as more opponents to fight and new meta. On some level, paying customers are providing the game that F2P players are enjoying for free.
So F2P players are already 2nd class citizens in that respect. Why should their enjoyment be equal to the paying customer's experience?
with this level of elitism&entitlement u wouldn't get it even if some1 would explain it to u...
@Tallstranger
f2p dont pay why should they get to have fun... and dude there's more than just USA and it's array of political/economical/financial/social/etc systems on this dam earth...
its pretty clear ur way of thinking so it's really no point for me to continue this.
dude, sorry to say it but this is BS talk...how do u expect some1 who plays HS for fun (like the vast majority of us) play the same 2-3 decks over and over again for 3-4 months. i did go for legend 1 month, i did spam 1 deck and made me intoxicated with HS for the rest of the expansion (2 months of logging in just for dailies). i feel like most of the ones who're playing out there can agree with this statement.
The truth is that we need eachother, f2p needs p2p to pay for their game and p2p needs f2p to have with whom to actually play the game. And, as Daulphas said it before : "F2P and P2P NEED to be able to play the game on EQUAL footing and have an EQUAL chance of winning their matches." I would also add that both f2p and p2p players should have access to the same cards during one expansion.
The most fun i had in HS was during open beta when every1 was making their own decks almost and there was such a diversity that u didnt know in advance how ur matchup will unroll or concepts like playing around certain cards and stuff like that. This min-maxing mentality is ruining every game out there not only HS, but for HS's case its especially prevalent cuz of the card collection restrictions we all have.
The guys at Hearthstone Mathematics (who i think we all agree that they know their statistics) are the ones saying the game is dying and they are also the ones who come up with some very interesting solutions like having a 3rd form of card (besides normal and golden) for the p2p customers. And i think we dont need them to tell us how unfriendly this game is for a newcomer (even with the poor effort from bli$$ that they made after so many years by giving the free deck. It's to little and definitely to late)...
The beef i have with bli$$ (as a f2p) is that they're misleading on purpose (with all their ID's not only HS) and they put in the minimum amount of effort (at least that's how it seems to me) but demand more and more $$...and for all those who come in here and shout there's nothing wrong with a company making profit i say yes, there is nothing wrong when the profit is within decency, otherwise in the real world they are put in place, checked in and whatnot by specific authorities who's role is exactly that, to stop companies from being/becoming too greedy...
paying is HS is a choice yes, but when being able to have fun in a game (which for me means playing various decks during the 4 month expac lifespan) implies more or less me having to pay between 150 $ - XXX $ per year for it then i say......heck, no game out there is this level of expensive cmon....
no point in trying... ppl who think like they do will never understand...they dont even understand why the game they spend so much $$ on is dying...why should they care about anything or any1 else as long as they PAY!!!
BS post, not worth bothering to show u how many ideas u got wrong in there, will try and help out by asking u to take a few steps outside in the fresh, open air before u go to sleep, wont do u good going to bed so constipated :/
i feel like the bli$$ white knights are out and hard at it this time around. bottom line is we'll just have to wait and see, but then again when did bli$$ did smth for us and not for their $$ benefit...lets not beat it around the bushes, there's a reason why so many ppl left this company, including the CO-founder himself lol.
and, as an entitled brat said somewhere in this topic, why should the enjoyment of f2p "2nd class citizens" be equal to the paying customer experience lol
well said lol but according to sum elitist ... (u fill in the blanks) we kinda deserve it :
"So F2P players are already 2nd class citizens in that respect. Why should their enjoyment be equal to the paying customer's experience?"
with this level of elitism&entitlement u wouldn't get it even if some1 would explain it to u...