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Quote from P4dge >>

People's issue is less that a deck cannot be beaten, its a deck that can't be beaten with what they WANT to play with. So many people just want the game to cater them as an individual. 

Weird because they seem to be the same people who cry about early streaming because it 'ruins the experimenting phase', which is exactly what this is. Some busted things pop out and people then start to counter them. Things are going to seem way, way over powered when you have no idea what to expect or play around. Once those beasts start coming down regularly people will start to tech against it to counter it. If a couple of weeks go by and there's no counter in sight then that's when nerfs should be considered.

I seem to recall bomb warrior starting off by smashing so many things and then fairly quickly fading away. I coukd be wrong but I can't really be bothered to really go through the examples because these people don't want to be reasoned with, they just want to have their cry and be validated by Internet strangers. 

 Agreed. The deck IS beatable, but not by every deck. That's always been the case in HS.

P4dge has a point, but I don't fully agree with him. Generalization is never a good thing (although I admit being guilty of doing such a thing from time to time).

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If you want to keep exchanging insults, trust me, I'm better at it than you.

That is exactly like saying "My d..k is bigger than yours!" to a random stranger on the street. There is no way you could know such a thing beforehand.

This is a forum for people all around the world, you have no idea what kind of monsters lurk out there, dude. Be careful! ;)

Quote from KingCarnage>>

1) someone mentioned Hookstusk as a mana cheating card. That card is fucking shit and has very limited options with a tribe of mostle cheap minions. Doesnt compare to any of this dumbfuck ysera, mountseller, guardians, fittest garbage at all. It's also a turn eight play. Nzoth, phaoris etc superior in so many way.

First, someone has a name (Sherman1986). And second, what are you talking about, dude? I just used her summon quote to make a joke, that's all. I never said absolutely nothing about Captain Hooktusk being a mana cheating card, only that she should have been a druid character 'cause she likes cheating and not playing fair (that was the joke, I know she is a pirate and fits the rogue class much better).

Calm down.

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Quote from SummerWalker >>

Druid cheating like 40+ mana in 3 turns

 balanced and fair!

Life is not fair, so why Hearthstone should be different?

Sorry, edgy comment, I know. Couldn't resist, that's all.

Ignore me! XD

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We've got to the point where the game is decided by who can do the more unfair thing faster. When that happens to you, you just concede and move on, the whole "playing the game" part seems irrelevant and unnecessary now...

All classes cheat the mana cost one way or another to varying degree depending on which snapshot of time you look at.

But it's really incomparable between classes. Basically, the more mana cheat class has, the better it performs nowadays. Take a look at meta rankings, it's no coincidence that classes with least mana cheating are at the bottom (Warlock, Schaman, Mage) and those with biggest cheats are at the top (Druid, Paladin, Demon Hunter, Hunter).

He is trying to tell you Hearthstone has always been more or less like this, with some classes being better at mana cheating than others during a particular period of time. For example, Undertaker Hunter was all about mana cheating too, but it was done in a more subtle way, that's all.

Quote from SummerWalker >>

Druid cheating like 40+ mana in 3 turns

"Cheatin'? I never fight fair!" - Captain Hooktusk (should have been a druid character :P)

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We've got to the point where the game is decided by who can do the more unfair thing faster. 

 Accurate.

Its either braindead aggro or  some shit that doesnt even make sense that thats allowed.

Takes a special scumbag to play druid and act like they are "good" at the game. Solid lmao.

Wonder where you have been all this years, but this shit is not new.

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We've got to the point where the game is decided by who can do the more unfair thing faster. When that happens to you, you just concede and move on, the whole "playing the game" part seems irrelevant and unnecessary now...

We haven't suddenly got to this point, it's been this way since Gadgetzan at least.

All classes cheat the mana cost one way or another to varying degree depending on which snapshot of time you look at. Like it or not, mana cheating IS Hearthstone. 

^ This.

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Quote from Lycaon55 >>

I think it all really started to worsen when they introduced the recruit mechanics with the kobolds and catacombs expansion. Hunter was ruling the meta with Kathrena Winterwisp and Charged Devilsaur. The stats probably showed to Blizz that a majority of players were going for this type of deck. Nothing wrong with that except that now it has reached such a level that it is beyond ridiculous. I just hope now that they will make the right nerfs next week.

 It goes way further back than Recruit. Free Patches, Quest Rogue, Jade Druid, infinite Fireball Mage, Big Priest and plenty more besides all cheating the cost of things. Cheating that cost is and always has been at the core of HS. 

^ And this.