I find I am just autoconceding now not because I can't win the game but because I don't want to play it. Like the last Priest I played I got down under 5 health then he played back to back Khartut Defenders.. and he enchanted the second one with that spell that summons 2 more of them when it dies. Don't care to play anymore at that point even though I have ways to still win.. it's just bad game design. So my days are probably limited particularly considering I identify as Mage and she always gets shit on in the meta at least since I started playing.
Yep - this game has become an auto-concede festival. Im in the same boat. !@#$ you and your braindead Galakrond Rogue deck or WHATEVER ELSE. So stupid. They've printed so many "save my ass" cards that it becomes pointless. Player are down to 2-5 health and magically pull the perfect cards every time. Or, <<insert sehnanigans here>> BS. So, so stupid. This game has gone FULL casino. ZERO skill or strategy. Those are the facts. Accept it.
This makes me laugh... Galakrond Rogue or "whatever else"... like what? Rez Priest? Embiggen Druid? Face Hunter? Dragon Hunter? Whip Warrior? Highlander Warrior, Rogue, Hunter or Shaman? Control Shaman? Galakrond Shaman? Mech Paladin? Deathrattle Rogue? Zoo Warlock? Mechathun Warlock? Treant Druid? Galakrond Quest Priest? I even think theres 50+% winrate Cyclone Mage right now... 20 viable decks through this expansion... Maybe they should ask you who you would like to play against before each game?
Don't get me wrong, I would love a game mode where you get to ban a class or two, but the fact that every single day people bitch about 4-5 different archetype, means the meta is fairly well balanced... This thread alone has people bitching about aggro, control, and combo... Show me any deck with a 50% win rate that no one cries about.
Face decks are very common, because they're strong and fast. A strong aggro deck will always be played more than an equally strong control deck, because people want to win 5 games, in the time it would take 2-3 with anything else.
I WISH 95% of players would play 1 deck.. ANY deck, because there is ALWAYS a counter, and climbing would be easy. I'm SO excited for April 7th, because so many people will play DH, and there will be a hard counter that will be amazing to climb with. I'll play DH when everyone is sick of it.
The only way to make a game "fair" is if 1/1s costed 1, 2/2s costed 2, etc... How fun would that be? Would you cry about the game being non-interactive? Or, cry about not drawing perfect curve? "This guy top decked his 5/5 on turn 5. SO unfair!!!! He must pray to RnGeezus rmlaofjskal!! SO RIGGED!"
Facehunter. There is not a even a second close to that. It is by far the most stupid shit the game atm... I might as well just sit across a dummy doll rolling a dice ... pretty much as exciting.
The biggest problem, is they can't draw bad. Every card had synergy towards the smorc. They can top deck through the strategy and not much changes. They either roll you over by turn 6, or just run out of steam... I actually havent seen many recently under rank 10. The dragon build seems much more popular.
I built a heal Paladin deck to watch them Auto Concede after I build up a big hand, and play Nozari, but I havent seen many recently.
So if people started playing your decks, would you change just to be different? I make my own decks, and tweak them. After about 2-3 weeks into a meta, I run into lots of other people playing the same deck... Are they copying me? There will always inevitably be best ways to build a deck for each hero. Am I a "net decker" because my decks end up being used by lots of people? Should I just close my eyes and randomly select cards? That's basically what arena is for. In constructed ladder meta, people competatively use the "best decks", regardless if they tweak it themselves, or copy and paste it. Every expansion, the deck I end up using most often ends up on the list of tier 1 decks (with a few different cards inevitably), but I have never copied and pasted a deck for main use in ladder (I have copied and pasted decks to play, usually memes, for quests, or just for fun). People get so upset that people use top tier decks to play a competitive game. There's decks I hate. I've been guilty of it. Now, I roll my eyes, and grind my teeth a bit whenever I face a Res Priest or Face Hunter, but that's just part of the game. You will never be in a meta where every game is exceedingly fun AND you win alot. Competitive decks are for winning, Meme decks are for messing around and having fun.
I agree that Hearthstone should have a plan mode, where you can 'ban' certain cards, and it matches you with players that match your criteria. People will still complain about ladder, but that just seems to be human nature. I've had people add me, and call me a "netdecking *expletive*" even though I made that deck on my own.
The most apt analogy for this is always, would you grab a pool noodle, go play some hockey, and complain about those "store bought stick using *explatives*"? Over the last 102 years of NHL history, stick technology has drastically changed. You won't find a player using a wooden stick crying about other players using graphite. You use the best available options to tweak the game to give the edge to win. This applies to every game and sport in the history of games and sports. Why would people who want to win NOT use the best combination of cards proven to win the most. I happen to like building decks almost more than playing the game. Every week or two I delete all of my decks, and remake them. I guarantee that at least 2 or 3 of them are not more than 4 cards off of 'net decks'. Is this somehow "unsportsmanlike"? Should I just not assemble these decks because they could be percieved as "netdecks"?
All I'm suggesting is, don't just complain, offer a solution. I agree that the game would be MUCH more fun if you couldn't copy and paste decks, but it wouldn't really take long for someone to just copy the cards of their opponents. Almost daily, I see a card interaction that an opponent plays and say to myself, "oooh, I should add that!", and I often try it out... So, what's the answer? You cant play the same card combination as anyone else? There's only 273 cards each class can choose a 30 card deck from, and 99% of those random combinations would not create viable decks.
As I mentioned earlier, I think the only reasonable solution to this, would be a game mode where players can ban certain cards and/or classes. If Blizzard were smart, they would do a Brawlisium style mode. Constructed, cash or gold to enter, and players can ban a class.
End of rant.
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This makes me laugh... Galakrond Rogue or "whatever else"... like what? Rez Priest? Embiggen Druid? Face Hunter? Dragon Hunter? Whip Warrior? Highlander Warrior, Rogue, Hunter or Shaman? Control Shaman? Galakrond Shaman? Mech Paladin? Deathrattle Rogue? Zoo Warlock? Mechathun Warlock? Treant Druid? Galakrond Quest Priest? I even think theres 50+% winrate Cyclone Mage right now... 20 viable decks through this expansion... Maybe they should ask you who you would like to play against before each game?
Don't get me wrong, I would love a game mode where you get to ban a class or two, but the fact that every single day people bitch about 4-5 different archetype, means the meta is fairly well balanced... This thread alone has people bitching about aggro, control, and combo... Show me any deck with a 50% win rate that no one cries about.
Face decks are very common, because they're strong and fast. A strong aggro deck will always be played more than an equally strong control deck, because people want to win 5 games, in the time it would take 2-3 with anything else.
I WISH 95% of players would play 1 deck.. ANY deck, because there is ALWAYS a counter, and climbing would be easy. I'm SO excited for April 7th, because so many people will play DH, and there will be a hard counter that will be amazing to climb with. I'll play DH when everyone is sick of it.
The only way to make a game "fair" is if 1/1s costed 1, 2/2s costed 2, etc... How fun would that be? Would you cry about the game being non-interactive? Or, cry about not drawing perfect curve? "This guy top decked his 5/5 on turn 5. SO unfair!!!! He must pray to RnGeezus rmlaofjskal!! SO RIGGED!"
The biggest problem, is they can't draw bad. Every card had synergy towards the smorc. They can top deck through the strategy and not much changes. They either roll you over by turn 6, or just run out of steam... I actually havent seen many recently under rank 10. The dragon build seems much more popular.
I built a heal Paladin deck to watch them Auto Concede after I build up a big hand, and play Nozari, but I havent seen many recently.
So if people started playing your decks, would you change just to be different? I make my own decks, and tweak them. After about 2-3 weeks into a meta, I run into lots of other people playing the same deck... Are they copying me? There will always inevitably be best ways to build a deck for each hero. Am I a "net decker" because my decks end up being used by lots of people? Should I just close my eyes and randomly select cards? That's basically what arena is for. In constructed ladder meta, people competatively use the "best decks", regardless if they tweak it themselves, or copy and paste it. Every expansion, the deck I end up using most often ends up on the list of tier 1 decks (with a few different cards inevitably), but I have never copied and pasted a deck for main use in ladder (I have copied and pasted decks to play, usually memes, for quests, or just for fun). People get so upset that people use top tier decks to play a competitive game. There's decks I hate. I've been guilty of it. Now, I roll my eyes, and grind my teeth a bit whenever I face a Res Priest or Face Hunter, but that's just part of the game. You will never be in a meta where every game is exceedingly fun AND you win alot. Competitive decks are for winning, Meme decks are for messing around and having fun.
I agree that Hearthstone should have a plan mode, where you can 'ban' certain cards, and it matches you with players that match your criteria. People will still complain about ladder, but that just seems to be human nature. I've had people add me, and call me a "netdecking *expletive*" even though I made that deck on my own.
The most apt analogy for this is always, would you grab a pool noodle, go play some hockey, and complain about those "store bought stick using *explatives*"? Over the last 102 years of NHL history, stick technology has drastically changed. You won't find a player using a wooden stick crying about other players using graphite. You use the best available options to tweak the game to give the edge to win. This applies to every game and sport in the history of games and sports. Why would people who want to win NOT use the best combination of cards proven to win the most. I happen to like building decks almost more than playing the game. Every week or two I delete all of my decks, and remake them. I guarantee that at least 2 or 3 of them are not more than 4 cards off of 'net decks'. Is this somehow "unsportsmanlike"? Should I just not assemble these decks because they could be percieved as "netdecks"?
All I'm suggesting is, don't just complain, offer a solution. I agree that the game would be MUCH more fun if you couldn't copy and paste decks, but it wouldn't really take long for someone to just copy the cards of their opponents. Almost daily, I see a card interaction that an opponent plays and say to myself, "oooh, I should add that!", and I often try it out... So, what's the answer? You cant play the same card combination as anyone else? There's only 273 cards each class can choose a 30 card deck from, and 99% of those random combinations would not create viable decks.
As I mentioned earlier, I think the only reasonable solution to this, would be a game mode where players can ban certain cards and/or classes. If Blizzard were smart, they would do a Brawlisium style mode. Constructed, cash or gold to enter, and players can ban a class.
End of rant.