Bli$$ard giving free stuff? NO WAY, THAT WOULD BREAK THE MATRIX
I don't get what your little passive aggressive dig is all about in all honesty, they give loads away for free. They do have to make money though or the game would collapse, you do realise this?
What people here don't realise is that this is a card COLLECTING game.
If you are handed the collection over, there's not much to work for isn't it? Also, part of the value from the cards comes from their rarity.
Even know, not everyone has 2 Brawls or 2 Pyroblasts, and definitely not every single top-tier classic legendary.
I started a new account in November and got a semi-decent collection in 3 weeks. Nothing fancy, but definitely enough to try out a many things.
What they could improve at, is starting dust amount after finishing starter ranks, better matchmaking and fixing casual (imo, the best thing they could do there is giving the option to ban 6-9 non-legendary cards).
There are still thousands of cards to collect even with the entire classic set free. There is no "value" to the cards. They can not be traded.
Still nobody in the no camp with a good argument.
Would you recommend this game to any of your friends? You are a pretty lousy friend if you answer yes.
You're extremely blinkered and clearly have no time for any opinion or agenda that doesn't match you own. Debating or discussion is not your bag, it would be better if you just left it alone to be honest. You're now at the point of just repeating the same thing, no one is going to change your mind and your posts are steadily creeping towards intolerance. I don't think there's much left for you to really add to this discussion.
There have been plenty of alternative ideas or reasons people wouldn't like this change. You're literally just ignoring them or saying they aren't good reasons, which is your opinion. If you really can't grasp why someone might have a problem with it, even if you personally disagree with it, you're beyond help.
I think everything should be free in HS except cosmetic things like card backs, hero portraits & golden cards. Believe me whales will still spend thousand of dollars for these cosmetic things like there is no tomorrow. It is a win-win situation for everyone.
I assume you don't run a company or business of your own? Probably a good reason for that...
Haven't seen a single rational argument from the no voters.
This game does not attract new players because of how much is required to build 1 decent deck.
You either have to grind for several years or spent hundreds. I would never recommend this game to anyone in it's current state.
There have been plenty, you can't just disagree with them or choose to ignore them, throw in an assertion that no rational explanations have been given and declare yourself king of debates. That isn't how it works.
Your last paragraph is absolute nonsense, you're simply perpetuating a myth and asserting it with confidence that some will assume it's fact.
I haven't grinded for years or put hundreds in, no where near either. I started playing around koft but very, very casually. I've bought the welcome bundle and pre ordered twice, had 2 lengthy spells of not playing the game and generally play it on mobile, during any breaks or whilst watching TV. I have an OK collection, a few strong decks and 18k in dust because I prepared well for the hall of fame switch.
There are some decent points from both side of the argument, try to be objective and you might see that it isn't all so black and white.
Why do people vote no? (I am just curious, is it because you already bought it and finished it, and don't want any new players?
i voted no bc it would devalue my collection significantly.
Your collection has zero value at all. You cant sell them and you cant trade them. You have the cards or you dont have them. If other players have classic cards or not doesnt devalue anything.
OK, i give up. The Hearthstone-community is obviously so toxic that they would prefer see this game dying instead of make it playable for new players. And yes: it is quite unplayable if you start today and dont want to invest a shit load of money
I agree the community is generally very toxic but you can't put everyone who disagrees into that category. There are some genuine concerns that people would have, disagreeing doesn't make you a fan boy or inherently toxic and suggesting it does completely devalues any discussion or debate because it just boils down to 'agree with my opinion or I'll abuse you for it'. That isn't constructive at all.
No one is right or wrong on this debate and there are some valid points from both perspectives. Ultimately, I don't think we will ever understand the impact it would have because we're not close enough to the data.
Im F2p so i think it's a great idea, ive veen playing for almost 3 years now, and i havent been able to get most of tge classic sets legendary, so i do thinj it would be a lot more fun, beacuse more cards means more decks to use. Cuz f2p necer really fully experience tge game, and as a reward for the people who spent money on the classic set, they could five you dust for all the classic cards you already have. But they ll never do it.
Getting a load of content for free would be more fun? Who would have thought?
Regarding the op, I don't think it's a good idea. Not only would you have the backlash of the player base, you would lose whatever sales you make from classic packs. Given that new people will be coming to the game, I imagine classic packs do still sell.
Ultimately, if someone is free to play exclusively, it would matter very little what you did. You are going to struggle to convert them into paying customers and I don't see how throwing more free content will encourage that. My experience with exclusively f2p players is that if you give an inch, they want a mile. All they would do is complaint that they don't have access to all the new expansion cards and ask for more handouts. Giving them access to the classic set wouldn't likely change much.
As a compromise, I wouldn't mind somethings like having access to it through the first 10 ranks or whatever. Once you hit rank 25 and 'proper' ladder (or 20 of that's it, I'm not sure) then you lose that access but have had time to experiment etc and have a leg up in terms of playing with different decks. If at that point you're committed, you can earn them or pay money for packs. If you still aren't feeling it, you probably never will and you likely aren't someone who would still around long term anyway.
For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the f2p mindset. They are generally the more negative and demanding section of fans that I see. Always want more and often berate the devs for being greedy or lazy, not just in hs but pretty much any game I've played extensively with a f2p model, I've seen the same behaviour and whilst I don't want to generalise and there are exceptions, I have far more negative experience with them than positive.
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I don't get what your little passive aggressive dig is all about in all honesty, they give loads away for free. They do have to make money though or the game would collapse, you do realise this?
Out of interest, what do you do for a living?
You're extremely blinkered and clearly have no time for any opinion or agenda that doesn't match you own. Debating or discussion is not your bag, it would be better if you just left it alone to be honest. You're now at the point of just repeating the same thing, no one is going to change your mind and your posts are steadily creeping towards intolerance. I don't think there's much left for you to really add to this discussion.
There have been plenty of alternative ideas or reasons people wouldn't like this change. You're literally just ignoring them or saying they aren't good reasons, which is your opinion. If you really can't grasp why someone might have a problem with it, even if you personally disagree with it, you're beyond help.
I assume you don't run a company or business of your own? Probably a good reason for that...
There have been plenty, you can't just disagree with them or choose to ignore them, throw in an assertion that no rational explanations have been given and declare yourself king of debates. That isn't how it works.
Your last paragraph is absolute nonsense, you're simply perpetuating a myth and asserting it with confidence that some will assume it's fact.
I haven't grinded for years or put hundreds in, no where near either. I started playing around koft but very, very casually. I've bought the welcome bundle and pre ordered twice, had 2 lengthy spells of not playing the game and generally play it on mobile, during any breaks or whilst watching TV. I have an OK collection, a few strong decks and 18k in dust because I prepared well for the hall of fame switch.
There are some decent points from both side of the argument, try to be objective and you might see that it isn't all so black and white.
I agree the community is generally very toxic but you can't put everyone who disagrees into that category. There are some genuine concerns that people would have, disagreeing doesn't make you a fan boy or inherently toxic and suggesting it does completely devalues any discussion or debate because it just boils down to 'agree with my opinion or I'll abuse you for it'. That isn't constructive at all.
No one is right or wrong on this debate and there are some valid points from both perspectives. Ultimately, I don't think we will ever understand the impact it would have because we're not close enough to the data.
Getting a load of content for free would be more fun? Who would have thought?
Regarding the op, I don't think it's a good idea. Not only would you have the backlash of the player base, you would lose whatever sales you make from classic packs. Given that new people will be coming to the game, I imagine classic packs do still sell.
Ultimately, if someone is free to play exclusively, it would matter very little what you did. You are going to struggle to convert them into paying customers and I don't see how throwing more free content will encourage that. My experience with exclusively f2p players is that if you give an inch, they want a mile. All they would do is complaint that they don't have access to all the new expansion cards and ask for more handouts. Giving them access to the classic set wouldn't likely change much.
As a compromise, I wouldn't mind somethings like having access to it through the first 10 ranks or whatever. Once you hit rank 25 and 'proper' ladder (or 20 of that's it, I'm not sure) then you lose that access but have had time to experiment etc and have a leg up in terms of playing with different decks. If at that point you're committed, you can earn them or pay money for packs. If you still aren't feeling it, you probably never will and you likely aren't someone who would still around long term anyway.
For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the f2p mindset. They are generally the more negative and demanding section of fans that I see. Always want more and often berate the devs for being greedy or lazy, not just in hs but pretty much any game I've played extensively with a f2p model, I've seen the same behaviour and whilst I don't want to generalise and there are exceptions, I have far more negative experience with them than positive.